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Will The Circle Be Unbroken? - Minstrel - 11-07-2025
Like all of his arguments, of late (it would seem), Sen. Rand Paul's latest (being that - tariffs are a tax, and he wants the Constitution to have meaning - while defending his hope that the Supreme Court will declare Trump's tariffs unconstitutional) sounds like another of his whines...that are not too unlike the incessant whines of another Kentuckian senator, soon to exit the premises.
Considering the state of this world and its socio-religio-politico-economic juxtaposition, which is more important:
Adhering to an interpretation of the Constitution, that makes 'America' weak, feeble and defenseless against the encroaching tide..., or
Playing with the same rules that have put 'America' in its weak, feeble and defenseless posture?
If 'America' goes down because you stuck to your principles...hoping for some miraculous intervention that shows You are right...what will you have won?
Who will you have helped?
Does Congress serve the people/nation, or the Constitution?
They are, apparently, not the same.
What was done to put 'America' in this position, was treason of the highest order.
But the treasonous ones will not taste the dungeon walls, as would the slaves.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/11/senator-rand-paul-says-supreme-court-should-strike/
RE: Will The Circle Be Unbroken? - F2d5thCav - 11-07-2025
My take is the USA (and rest of the West) never seriously reordered their outlook and priorities after the Berlin Wall fell. So many of the positions taken by us and other countries since then failed to account for a vastly changed world order.
Many of the RINOs are trying to continue living in the 1980s, which is why their politics don't make sense today.
Trump is using tariffs to wake up hidebound establishments in other countries, and our country as well. Lots of entrenched resistance to anything he does, no matter if it is appropriate to the present situation or not.
RE: Will The Circle Be Unbroken? - MalevolentTwitch - 11-07-2025
You know... I am completely okay with the idea of tariffs. If another country wants to import a product to whatever country that is proposing the tariff, the importing country should get to decide if they want to regulate that exchange from a financial standpoint. That makes perfect sense to me...
What doesn't make sense to me is an income tax, a sales tax on everything that you buy with your income that was previously taxed, an annual tax on asset growth, an annual property tax that was purchased with either income that was taxed or assets that were previously taxed, and then an estate tax on your assets that you leave behind for you children when you die...
But NAY NAY.... Tariffs are bad!
RE: Will The Circle Be Unbroken? - Minstrel - 11-08-2025
(11 hours ago)F2d5thCav Wrote: My take is the USA (and rest of the West) never seriously reordered their outlook and priorities after the Berlin Wall fell. So many of the positions taken by us and other countries since then failed to account for a vastly changed world order.
Many of the RINOs are trying to continue living in the 1980s, which is why their politics don't make sense today.
Trump is using tariffs to wake up hidebound establishments in other countries, and our country as well. Lots of entrenched resistance to anything he does, no matter if it is appropriate to the present situation or not.
I have not counted Rand Paul a RINO, 'til recently. But, his paint job seems to be fading in rapid fashion.
(7 hours ago)MalevolentTwitch Wrote: You know... I am completely okay with the idea of tariffs. If another country wants to import a product to whatever country that is proposing the tariff, the importing country should get to decide if they want to regulate that exchange from a financial standpoint. That makes perfect sense to me...
What doesn't make sense to me is an income tax, a sales tax on everything that you buy with your income that was previously taxed, an annual tax on asset growth, an annual property tax that was purchased with either income that was taxed or assets that were previously taxed, and then an estate tax on your assets that you leave behind for you children when you die...
But NAY NAY.... Tariffs are bad!
Interesting that, in the New Testament, Jesus is reported to have alluded to Rome's taxation, where those taxed are not the citizens, but alien.
I agree that tariffs are an appropriate measure - but, if the Congress (House to start) doesn't/hasn't do/done it, and we're in the shape we're in, in part, due to the imbalance/s...perhaps the President should step as far as his bounds can deliver in attempt to right the boat.
I am in favor of those steps.
I, likewise, agree with your take on taxes/taxation.