Questions About The Charlie Kirk Shooting & JPF commentary - EndtheMadnessNow -  09-14-2025
 
 
Quote:Scotty, Beam Us Up 
 
Captain Kirk has fallen 
 
Quote:“Turning and turning in the widening gyre 
The falcon cannot hear the falconer; 
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold; 
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world, 
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere 
The ceremony of innocence is drowned; 
The best lack all conviction, while the worst 
Are full of passionate intensity.” 
The Second Coming (excerpt), by William Butler Yeats 
 
 
I confess I knew little of Charlie Kirk, other than having heard his name mentioned a thousand times. I wasn’t his target audience. He spoke to Millennials and Zoomers, and his message was preaching to the choir for me. I was at his level back in the 1980s. 
 
Following the news of him being shot, I went to his YouTube channel and watched a video uploaded hours before his death, of him speaking and debating with a crowd at University of California San Diego. He was clearly well read and articulate. He didn’t strike me as being mean, condescending, or ridiculing, even when the folks standing to debate him were clearly products of American public education. 
 
What really struck me, even knowing how shallow and callous the GeezerMedia and SocMed (social media) are, was the inhuman glee and celebratory mood among the Wokians and Regressives (wrongly labelled Progressives in some circles). Like hyenas, they circle the camp fire, cackling and howling in a peculiarly animalistic way, waiting to pounce on the corpse and rip it to shreds when no one is looking. 
 
The conservatives certainly have a martyr now, and a rallying point for concerted motivation and action. I seriously doubt, however, that this or any other shocking event will galvanize the movement. American conservatives are a shy lot, not prone to outrage and kinetic responses. There’s an infuriating “christian” pall over them that prevents any meaningful response. Rather, they recoil and pray and tell themselves there will be a reckoning in the hereafter. 
 
Perhaps a more meaningful reaction is to recognize what is going on, who is doing it, and how it can be subverted. I don’t know if I can adequate answer all the questions, but I can make a good stab at it. 
 
First off, the Kirk assassination was a professional hit. Everything about it screams teamwork. According to the Gateway Pundit, the FBI was tracking the shooter for an hour before the incident, and has clear video of the shooter before, during and after the shooting. Why they didn’t act should be obvious. In any case, amateurs use handguns at very close range (< 2 yards/meters), while professionals use rifles at 200-500 yards. Imagine shooting a log at the opposite end of two football fields, and at least 2-3 yards below your eye level. 
 
Second, the FBI reports the rifle was found in the woods nearby, with various pro-transsexual, anti-Trump and anti-fascist slogans somehow etched on the bullet casings. This is clearly a red herring to rile MAGA/conservatives and turn them against specific groups. This is an obvious ruse, since all other facts but this point to a professional hit. 
 
Third, Kirk appears to have been wearing a bulletproof vest. This means the killer either knew that and was going for a head shot, or the killer was trying for a heart shot and the vest deflected the bullet into Kirk’s throat and spine. 
 
Fourth, Joseph Farrell is reporting that his sources tracked a private jet leaving Provo, Utah an hour after the shooting, and the plane “disappeared” from tracking shortly after take-off. 
 
Putting all this together, it sounds as if there is a Fifth Column active within the US government, using the various agencies and departments to both execute and hide operations designed to cause division, rage and violent reactions. 
 
The term “fifth column” comes from the Spanish Civil War (1936–39): during the siege of Madrid, Nationalist General Emilio Mola supposedly said he had four columns of troops advancing on the city — and a “fifth column” of sympathisers already inside Madrid, ready to sabotage and weaken the defenders. Since then, it’s become shorthand for traitors, infiltrators, or subversives operating under cover of loyalty. 
 
This would explain judges who repeatedly release violent criminals in an effort to cause grievous harm and turn people against the institutions of government. The apparent incompetence of agencies like the Secret Service and FBI allow operations to be planned and carried out with minimal law enforcement interference or effectiveness—as in Trump’s attempted assassination. 
 
Fascists/Socialists are well-known for employing fifth columns in taking over nations. 
 
- Czechoslovakia (1938–39)
 
- The Sudeten German Party (led by Konrad Henlein) whipped up unrest among ethnic Germans.
 
 
- This gave Hitler a pretext for intervention, undermining Prague from within.
 
 
 
 
- Norway (1940)
 
- Vidkun Quisling and his Nasjonal Samling party openly collaborated.
 
 
- Quisling’s name became synonymous with “traitor.”
 
 
- Local Nazi sympathizers guided German troops and disrupted Norwegian defenses.
 
 
 
 
- Netherlands, Belgium, France (1940)
 
- Fascist and pro-German groups carried out sabotage and spread defeatism.
 
 
- The Nazis also planted agents to cut communications and mislead defenders during invasions.
 
 
 
 
- Yugoslavia and Greece (1941)
 
- Ethnic German minorities (Volksdeutsche) often supported German troops with intelligence and sabotage.
 
 
- Collaborationist factions later helped the occupiers administer the countries.
 
 
 
 
 
 
Psychological warfare gave the sense that enemies were already inside the gates demoralized defenders. Sabotage & intelligence helped cut railways, spread false orders, or secure airfields. Propaganda from Nazi radio and leaflets broadcast “you are betrayed from within” messages to sow confusion. 
 
Does any of this sound familiar with regard to the current situation within the US? 
 
Keep in mind that in the Far Side view, there’s hardly a whit’s worth of difference between Marxists, Leninists, Stalinists, Maoists, Communists, Socialists, and Fascists. These are all subtle variations on the same ideology with the same tactics and methods: fill up the schools, local and regional governments. They maximize discord, division and violence. They seek utter chaos in order to install their solutions, and those who refuse to submit are slaughtered my the millions. 
 
From the end of the 19th century until now, we have seen the same playbook used over and over across the globe, and always with the same results: death, despair, collapse, and ruin. 
 
In the aftermath of the Charlie Kirk murder, it is absolutely vital that folks do not react emotionally and attack targets specifically chosen for them. Rather, step back, take a breath, and have a cold hard look at who is really behind all of it. There is a single, transnational and very well-funded organization that plays us like well-tempered claviers. 
 
Charlie Kirk’s killer was a trained professional backed up by an insertion/extraction team. The murder was for the sole purpose of goading the MAGA/conservatives into violent backlash, so that it can be used as justification for authoritarian crack-downs, as well as propaganda to warn folks away from rugged individualism and non-reliance on the Almighty State. 
 
The proper outcome in this matter should be a strong, united and decisive movement against this form of extremism, as manifested in Wokism, Progressivism, and similar ideologies. Those who are laughing, cheering and blaming Charlie himself for this horrific tragedy are the monsters behind the violence. They must be called out, isolated, shunned. Folks need to demand justice in a controlled and dispassionate manner. 
 
Anything short of this plays directly into the hands of the bastards who are pushing this rubbish. We cannot empower them by being herded into their slaughter houses. 
 
This is also a test. If government does not respond appropriately and apprehend, indict and convict these monsters, then we know that the government is no longer of, by and for the people. We cannot allow the same delay and misdirection tactics used in JFK/911/2020 Riots to derail this investigation. Results now, or the united people must act with firm and decisive action. We have seen the US Senate behave in the most reprehensible and depraved way. Let them know that a line is being drawn and they are on the wrong side. 
 
No more fearful hope that the perpetrators will receive their due in the afterlife. That will not deter evil in the here and now. We must use cold, calculating and established due process, and upon conviction the guilty must be swiftly hung, shot and/or electrified (no soft chemicals). The fifth column must be identified and rooted out before the take-over is complete. No anger, just righteous indignation. This is an existential battle, but the good folks must not descend to the animalist level of the enemy. History is watching how we handle this moment. 
 
Other than an assassination and Nepal in ruins, it was a pretty quiet week. 
 
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There is only a single film that brilliantly captures the Zeitgeist: Judgement at Nuremburg (1961). Not only is it one of director Stanley Kramer’s best works, the cast is a veritable who’s who of A-list acting talent in the early 1960s, including Captain Kirk (William Shatner) himself. I just realized too that it was co-written by Montgomery Clift. This is a powerful message that needs to be heard again in our current morass. 
 
 
ETA: JPF commentary on Charlie Kirk (14 min) - I did not know about this private jet that disappeared off radar.
 
 
 
RE: Scotty, Beam Us Up - p358 -  09-14-2025
 
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikdA8V_eT9I 
 
It is not a lone gunman.  This is so despicable.  Watch the video, it will not waste your time. 
 
P  
 
Could you put his name in the title to avoid duplicate threads please?
 
 
 
RE: Scotty, Beam Us Up - EndtheMadnessNow -  09-14-2025
 
 
 (09-14-2025, 04:26 AM)p358 Wrote:   
 
It is not a lone gunman.  This is so despicable.  Watch the video, it will not waste your time. 
 
P  
 
Could you put his name in the title to avoid duplicate threads please?  
Thanks. I changed the thread title.
 
 
 
RE: Questions About The Charlie Kirk Shooting & JPF commentary - Kenzo1 -  09-15-2025
 
 
Why the place where Charlie was shooted didn`t have ambulance ???  He was carried to black SUV from the scene . 
 
 
If he had security team there, but no ambulance ?
 
 
 
RE: Questions About The Charlie Kirk Shooting & JPF commentary - Michigan Swamp Buck -  09-16-2025
 
 
@"EndtheMadnessNow"#18  
 
This seems to be the way it is portrayed in your post —a false flag to initiate a kinetic war between domestic factions. A civil war of sorts, where one side tries to gain control over the other to the point of violence and civil unrest. It has to get that bad before they can send in the troops to regain order via martial law. 
 
So, in order to avoid violence, we must use the justice system as best as we can to punish these criminals. We must resort to lawfare like they have been using, maybe even use some of their dirty tricks and rig things like judge appointments and important elections. Enforce what laws we can while reworking or eliminating others, as well as creating new laws if necessary. 
 
If violence can't be avoided, we need the military to be sympathetic to our side over the other. If we, the conservatives, have the military on our side, then we could round up the traitors for a Nuremberg style trial and then line those found guilty up against a wall. An unmarked mass grave will take care of any funeral arrangements that are needed afterward. 
 
If we take the route of using the least violent measures as described, then there will be a lot more Charlies falling before due process can deter a false flag conducted by some powerful enemy country or outside organization.
 
 
 
RE: Questions About The Charlie Kirk Shooting & JPF commentary - Chiefsmom -  09-16-2025
 
 
Personally, I do think he was working alone, as far as the shooting itself goes.  I could be wrong.  We shall see.  I am thinking he was "Programed" to an extent. 
 
What concerns me about the whole thing, is that I am starting to lean more toward the mental health crisis in this country being manufactured to an extent. 
Both due to phama and the internet. 
And I am wondering about the manufactured part being to cover up instances where people maybe are being mind controlled? 
 
I've never looked really deep into this, but it sure has come on fast.  And seems to be created to divide us to were it isn't fixable anymore. 
 
And that scares me.
 
 
 
RE: Questions About The Charlie Kirk Shooting & JPF commentary - EndtheMadnessNow -  09-18-2025
 
 
I haven't been keeping up with all that is being spilled & conjured by the delusional media, but this is an interesting claim: 
 
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Debunking The Top 5 Lies The Left Is Spreading About Charlie Kirk After His Death 
 
For someone with literally thousands of hours on video, covering everything from podcasts to campus debates to casual chats, the most remarkable fact is that, despite the endless lies spread about him, not a single clip far as I know has surfaced in which Charlie Kirk says anything remotely nasty, let alone the things he’s been falsely accused of. It’s hard to imagine anyone else with their life so thoroughly documented who would come out so unblemished. 
 
 
Attorney General Pam Bondi: "There's free speech and then there's hate speech, and there is no place, especially now, especially after what happened to Charlie, in our society...We will absolutely target you, go after you, if you are targeting anyone with hate speech." 
 
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https://x.com/BulwarkOnline/status/1967754339612758178 
 
 
Firstly, nobody is going to pull the plug on the Internet because the machine needs to be fed 24/7. Maybe a few blackouts & glitches here and there. 
 
The crackdown will be terrible, and the backlash to the crackdown could be cataclysmic. Every day of impunity feels a day closer to "never again" becoming "how about now, punk?" There will either be a just reckoning, soon, or a final catastrophe many will call a solution.
 
 
 
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