UFOs Not Spacecraft? - Printable Version

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UFOs Not Spacecraft? - Kenzo1 - 07-06-2025

Late Terence McKenna interview with Jeffrey Mishlove , about the nature of Aliens....what are they or how McKenna sees it . To me this is rather interesting view ...tempting...appealing

To help jump to theme better, here is Skywatch Signal short synopsis :

Terence McKenna on UFOs: Not ETs, something stranger.
Most people think UFOs are spacecraft from another star system. Terence McKenna didn’t buy it. His take is that we’re not being visited. We’re being intruded upon.

1/ McKenna told Jeffrey Mishlove: The idea of aliens arriving in nuts-and-bolts ships to trade, invade, or evangelize is just a modern myth. One that started after WWII, and it doesn’t hold up anymore.

2/ There are too many encounters, too many types of encounters. Craft, orbs, abductions, missing time, telepathy, synchronicity, psychic residue. It doesn’t act like a physical investigation. It behaves like a psychological intervention.

3/ Carl Jung wrote about this in 1953. He didn’t say UFOs were fake, he said they might be real dreams. Symbols with shape and light that speak to the unconscious. A “mandala in the sky” reflecting humanity’s yearning for wholeness.

4/ McKenna pushes it further. He says if it were just psychological, that wouldn’t explain how real the experience feels. People don’t walk away from dreams with burns, radiation, or completely restructured belief systems

5/ Why would “aliens” need thousands of visitations per year for decades? Even our crude probes can scan entire planets from orbit. McKenna goes on to state that this isn’t research, it’s something deeper.

6/ What we’re seeing, he says, is a cross-dimensional bleed-through. A high-frequency penetration from an entirely different ontology. Not creatures from space, but intelligences from another order of being

7/ McKenna called it “an alien dimension intruding on ours at an industrial scale.” It’s not about ships, it’s about our minds, symbols. The structure of thought itself. UFOs aren’t coming from somewhere. They’re erupting into somewhere, us!

8/ McKenna suggests the phenomenon is closer to shamanism than space travel. He claims that contact happens in the mind. Through language, and symbols. They’re not here to land, they’re here to rewire us.

9/ This is why McKenna turned to psychedelics. DMT visions mirrored the same phenomena, the entities and telepathy The impossibility of what you saw. He called them “self-transforming machine elves.” Same game, different medium according to him.

10/ If what McKenna says is true, UFOs aren’t alien objects, they’re alien ideas, trying to become real. A virus of consciousness. Rewriting human perception to allow the other in. Is it wise to be trying to contact the phenomenon if this is the case?

11/ Jacques Vallée reached a similar conclusion: UFOs may be a control system, an intelligence that guides us by interfering with belief itself. McKenna called it the cosmic trickster. A puzzle with no solution, because you are the piece being moved.

12/ Whatever UFOs are, they’re not simple. They defy category because they aren’t meant to fit in one. They’re not craft, they’re catalysts. The phenomenon is real. But the nature of that reality is up for grabs!

Skywatch Signal

The truth is out there , or here ....as has been a very long time ? Are we too blind...or too modern so can't see the forest for the trees ? I dont know exactly final truth , but i think it`s not rational not having explicit evidence about the UFOs with the claimed number of sightings. With the new AI tech i dont trust any video anymore either , they can make so good fake videos & pictures that can fool people.

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RE: UFOs Not Spacecraft? - F2d5thCav - 07-06-2025

I usually copy text into notepad, then copy it out of notepad into my comments here so it is visible.

McKenna's comments make more sense than physical spaceships cruising the cosmos, all wanting to come here.

MinusculeCheers

RE: UFOs Not Spacecraft? - BIAD - 07-06-2025

I assisted by highlighting the 'invisible' text and then pressing the 'A' icon with a small red circle
next to it. It's next to the colour-select icon.

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RE: UFOs Not Spacecraft? - Kenzo1 - 07-06-2025

(Yesterday, 06:22 PM)BIAD Wrote: I assisted by highlighting the 'invisible' text and then pressing the 'A' icon with a small red circle
next to it. It's next to the colour-select icon.

Thanks biad thumbsup2

i must have edited it same time and not noticed that you were also fixing it...anyways all appreciated.

(Yesterday, 06:04 PM)F2d5thCav Wrote: I usually copy text into notepad, then copy it out of notepad into my comments here so it is visible.

McKenna's comments make more sense than physical spaceships cruising the cosmos, all wanting to come here.

Yeeh the notepad trick seem to help thumbsup2

thanks Cav .

RE: UFOs Not Spacecraft? - FCD - 07-06-2025

Now we're talkin'!!!

As many of you know, I have been saying ET isn't going to travel here in a spaceship like in the movies. The possibility of this is so small it's almost impossible. I won't say "impossible", but damn near to it. That the whole ET thing, with a head, torso, two arms and two legs was just a product of human conditioning and imagination. If ET was ever going to come here, he's probably already here, but in a form we don't recognize. This is exactly what I've been saying for years. Finally, it sounds like some 'experts' are catching on. ET isn't going to come to Earth in a physical form; it doesn't make any sense for him to do that. If he's advanced enough to get here at all, he's going to realize the severe limitations of the human physical form.

RE: UFOs Not Spacecraft? - FCD - 07-06-2025

Despite Star Trek, 2001, Alien, and countless other SF shows, humans were designed for Earth, and only for Earth. Any notion of Mars, or any other distant planet, is just fantasy (and wild fantasy at that)! Save your Rubles, Kommrads!!

RE: UFOs Not Spacecraft? - EndtheMadnessNow - 07-07-2025

I was going to add that correlates to a lot of what Jacques Vallée had said decades ago. See you already noted. Anyone who reads or even skims through Vallée's earlier books from 1969 to early 90s (more relevant today than ever) will walk away with a completely different, but logical take on the UFO subject as compared to all the garbage being spewed out the past 8 years. I think real disclosure came decades ago but very few were paying any attention, myself included, I was too young.

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RE: UFOs Not Spacecraft? - Kenzo1 - 07-07-2025

(Yesterday, 06:42 PM)FCD Wrote: Now we're talkin'!!!

As many of you know, I have been saying ET isn't going to travel here in a spaceship like in the movies. The possibility of this is so small it's almost impossible. I won't say "impossible", but damn near to it. That the whole ET thing, with a head, torso, two arms and two legs was just a product of human conditioning and imagination. If ET was ever going to come here, he's probably already here, but in a form we don't recognize. This is exactly what I've been saying for years. Finally, it sounds like some 'experts' are catching on. ET isn't going to come to Earth in a physical form; it doesn't make any sense for him to do that. If he's advanced enough to get here at all, he's going to realize the severe limitations of the human physical form.

Yes agree , and the ET thing has been also weaponized by CIA -or other agencies , to greate distractions with all kind of stories , just last few years a lot " push " in youtube/twitter, as has been with Hollywood ...

(9 hours ago)EndtheMadnessNow Wrote: I was going to add that correlates to a lot of what Jacques Vallée had said decades ago. See you already noted. Anyone who reads or even skims through Vallée's earlier books from 1969 to early 90s (more relevant today than ever) will walk away with a completely different, but logical take on the UFO subject as compared to all the garbage being spewed out the past 8 years. I think real disclosure came decades ago but very few were paying any attention, myself included, I was too young.

Seems so , i think you are right that the real disclosure came decades ago , i was also too young to catch it then .

RE: UFOs Not Spacecraft? - F2d5thCav - 07-07-2025

(11 hours ago)FCD Wrote: Despite Star Trek, 2001, Alien, and countless other SF shows, humans were designed for Earth, and only for Earth. Any notion of Mars, or any other distant planet, is just fantasy (and wild fantasy at that)! Save your Rubles, Kommrads!!

Clay, noooo!

I wanna go to Marz and be a slave for Massa Elon Laughing

... can't imagine how awful such an "adventure" would be.

MinusculeCheers