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Stunning Anglo-Saxon Gold Raven Head found - gortex - 05-08-2025

Metal detectorists searching a field in the South of England unearthed something a bit special earlier this year , the first find war a Gold Garnet inlaid band which was found by a chap new to the hobby , beginners luck perhaps but what came next turned the experienced detectorist who found it to tears , the objects are about 1,600 years old.
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Credit to the guys for their find and following protocol.
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RE: Stunning Anglo-Saxon Gold Raven Head found - GeauxHomeLittleD - 05-08-2025

So pretty! Has my birthstone too.
I needs it!  Love it


RE: Stunning Anglo-Saxon Gold Raven Head found - Ninurta - 05-08-2025

1,600 years old would put it right around the time of the Saxon "invasion" and the flight of the Romans, who left instructions for the British to "fend for themselves". around the time of the collapse of the Roman Empire.

That's old, and a historically pivotal time.

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RE: Stunning Anglo-Saxon Gold Raven Head found - gortex - 05-08-2025

(05-08-2025, 06:17 PM)Ninurta Wrote: 1,600 years old would put it right around the time of the Saxon "invasion" and the flight of the Romans, who left instructions for the British to "fend for themselves". around the time of the collapse of the Roman Empire.

That's old, and a historically pivotal time.

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Yeah , it's believed to have been a Golden Age for our Country , I secretly yearn for those times.

They certainly had an eye for style.


RE: Stunning Anglo-Saxon Gold Raven Head found - BIAD - 05-18-2025

(05-08-2025, 07:37 PM)gortex Wrote:
(05-08-2025, 06:17 PM)Ninurta Wrote: 1,600 years old would put it right around the time of the Saxon "invasion" and the flight of the Romans, who left instructions for the British to "fend for themselves". around the time of the collapse of the Roman Empire.

That's old, and a historically pivotal time.

Yeah , it's believed to have been a Golden Age for our Country , I secretly yearn for those times.

They certainly had an eye for style.

Ah yes, but it seems others wish those days to be... 'slightly different'!
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So now I wonder if the Shaman can draw the lightning down from the sky.
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Quote:Stonehenge was built when Britain was a 'black country', new children's book claims

*Brilliant Black British History is by Nigerian-born British author Atinuke
*It also claims 'every single British person comes from a migrant'

'Stonehenge was built by black people, a new children's history book has claimed.
Readers of Brilliant Black British History, by the Nigerian-born British author Atinuke, are told the neolithic
monument in Wiltshire was built while Britain was a 'black country'.

The book, which is aimed at children aged seven and above, also tells readers that 'every single British
person comes from a migrant' and that the 'very first Britons were black'. The introduction adds that Britain
has been 'mostly a white country for a lot less time than it has been mostly a black country'.

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The Book.                                                                                         Atinuke.

Atinuke also claims that the remains of the 10,000-year-old Cheddar Man belonged to someone who had
'skin as dark as dark can be'. A facial reconstruction of Cheddar Man depicted him as having dark skin in
2018, although one expert involved in the project insisted it was a 'probable profile' rather than a certainty.

Brilliant Black British History is published by Bloomsbury and promoted by literacy charity The Book Trust,
which itself is funded by the Arts Council. The book takes readers through an overview of the presence of
black people in Britain.

It says that Britain was 'a black country more than 7,000 years before white people came and during that
time the most famous British monument was built, Stonehenge'. But research published in 2019 suggested
the Neolithic farmers who built Stonehenge had paler skin and were descended from populations originating
in Anatolia in what is now Turkey. They also likely had brown eyes and black or dark-brown hair.

Atinuke's book also features illustrations of Britain during various periods of its history.
One page shows an image of a black Roman legionary fighting a white Celt. The author claims the Romans
had 'turned back to Europe and pushed north' after trying and failing to conquer the African kingdom of Nubia.
By the Middle Ages, Britain was a 'hodgepodge of people', according to the author.

The population was made up of 'original British migrants, Celts, Romans, Britons, Anglo-Saxons, Vikings,
Africans and Normans'. They also spoke 'a hodgepodge language too - English'.

A page on the Black Lives Matter movement says that although race 'does not scientifically exist', black people
suffer 'institutional racism'. The book is billed in its blurb as an 'eye-opening history of Britain' that focuses on
'a part of our past that has mostly been left out of the history books: the brilliant black history of England,
Scotland, Wales and Ireland'.

It adds: 'Did you know that the first Britons were black? Or that some of the Roman soldiers who invaded and
ruled Britain were black, too? 'Join this fascinating journey through the ages to meet those first Britons, as well
as the black Tudors, Georgians and Victorians who existed in every walk of life here.'
The book was published on August 31.

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Some African Rubble.                                                                                                  Cheddar Man.

The research into Cheddar Man was carried out by a team from University College London. Cheddar Man's
remains - the oldest near-complete human skeleton ever found in Britain - were unearthed in 1903 in Gough's
Cave, in Somerset's Cheddar Gorge.  DNA tests suggested he had black skin, dark curly hair and blue eyes.

Geneticist Susan Walsh at Indiana University–Purdue University Indianapolis, who helped create the reconstruction
of Cheddar Man's face, said soon afterwards that although it was 'probable' he had dark skin, DNA testing was
not advanced enough to say for certain.

The new book comes after campaign group Don't Divide Us revealed in a report how children are being exposed
to controversial 'anti-racism' theories. The investigation exposed a book that tells children racism started when
'white people wanted more control'. Another encouraged teachers to tell children 'what white privilege is'...'
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RE: Stunning Anglo-Saxon Gold Raven Head found - gortex - 05-18-2025

Quote:Posted by BIAD
Ah yes, but it seems others wish those days to be... 'slightly different'!


I think the motive for that book is exemplified by the black woman giving the Black Power salute on the cover.

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RE: Stunning Anglo-Saxon Gold Raven Head found - Ninurta - 05-18-2025

(05-18-2025, 11:19 AM)gortex Wrote:
Quote:Posted by BIAD
Ah yes, but it seems others wish those days to be... 'slightly different'!


I think the motive for that book is exemplified by the black woman giving the Black Power salute on the cover.

Minusculegoodjob

I believe the woman on the cover you refer to, in the lower right corner, is supposed to represent Shirley Chisholm, a notorious American radical black communist from the 1960's and 1970's. She's not even British.

Sub Saharan Africans have been pushing for several years in the U.S. to culturally appropriate the achievements of other cultures, a phenomenon I've encountered in person. For example, American Blacks claim that the "original" American Indians were black. They claim that Cleopatra was black as well, and lay claim to Egyptian civilization partly upon that basis - but Cleopatra was a Ptolemaic Greek, not even really Egyptian, much less sub Saharan African.

There are entire websites devoted to the glorious, but fictitious, cultural achievements of sub Saharan Africans that are actually culturally appropriated from most other cultures on the planet.

The first people provably in Britain were probably Homo Antecessor. Their footprints were found on a beach on the eastern coast of England (Happisburgh?). No one knows what color their skin was.

Then there were the Heidelbergensis people in Britain, demonstrated by finds at Boxgrove and Clacton-On-Sea. No one knows what color their skin was, either.

After that, the Nenderthals came to Britain. Genes for pale skin, red hair, and blue eyes have been isolated from Neanderthal specimens. So, probably not "black", definitely not sub Saharan African black

Cheddar Man is an interesting case. I happen to carry some of Cheddar Man's DNA, so I have an interest. People think Cheddar man was "black" due to a reconstruction bust made of him. The bust looks more like what is referred to as "Asian" in Britain rather than sub Saharan African - dark sin, coarse, wavy, dark hair, but otherwise typically Caucasian features, just covered in darker skin.

However, that is only a guess, based upon a partial DNA profile. Skin, hair, and eye pigmentation are more complex than that. They are governed by a multiplicity of genes, so we can't simply pick one and run with that for colorations. Many genes are involved, with some modifying the traits and strengths of others. For example, my DNA profile says that I have extremely pale skin, blonde hair, and blue eyes. The closest thing to match that profile are my eyes, which are a steel gray. My hair, before it went gray, was as black as a banker's heart. My skin varies with the time of year, but is never extremely pale. At the height of summer, I could also be described as "black", in the Cheddar man sense. I was actually standing guard duty at a bank one summer day when a black woman came up to me and asked me to hold out my arm. I did, and when she laid her arm aside mine, I was actually darker skinned than she was.

I happen to believe that "race" does exist, and can be proven scientifically despite the left-wing academics who claim it ain't so. I've always gotten a kick out of the fact that they can claim race does not exist, and decry racism all in the same breath, as if it DOES exist. That is a classic example of "cognitive dissonance" - the astounding ability to believe two things that are polar opposites are both true at the same time.

But no, Britain has never been a "black country", great-great grandpa Cheddar notwithstanding. The Neanderthals were not black, the European Hunter-Gatherers were not black, the Neolithic Farmers were not black, and the Bronze Age people like the Bell-Beakers were not black. All of that can be shown by DNA, all the way back to the Neanderthals. So, of course ancient sites in Europe like Stonehenge, Newgrange, and Carnac could not have been built by black folks.

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RE: Stunning Anglo-Saxon Gold Raven Head found - F2d5thCav - 05-18-2025

Heck, even the Nazis were black now, according to a recent song by Ye.  Laughing

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