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Peace, Love, and Property Damage - EndtheMadnessNow - 05-06-2025 Hopefully nobody gets triggered by this piece. ![]() Quote:Ah, the Baby Boomer counter-culture. That flower-crowned fever dream of peace, love, and delusional utopianism. History remembers it fondly as the moment when an entire generation supposedly broke free of “the Man,” embraced sexual liberation, and fought for civil rights. But peel back the tie-dyed curtain, and what do we find? A mess. A loud, self-righteous, pot-smoke-reeking mess that promised liberation, but delivered gentrification, inflated real estate markets, and the spiritual death of rock 'n' roll. RE: Peace, Love, and Property Damage - FCD - 05-06-2025 NOT directed at YOU, @"EndtheMadnessNow" Triggered? No, not really. However, as a 'Cusper' myself (to coin the words of the author), I do have some observations. ![]() First off, what a Millennial and Gen Z load of utter bullshit! I could go line by line, but I won't. I do think this piece encapsulates exactly how Millennials and Gen Z'ers feel about everyone but themselves, and all generations but their own. In fact, you could group both together and call them the "Me!" generation. 'It's everyone else's fault'...is their slogan. They've spent their entire adult live's whining and finding people to blame for their own lack of responsibility and accountability. Spend any time on the cesspool called Reddit and you can see this same theme over and over again until you choke (to death). It's a beehive of anti-boomers. Boomers are to blame for everything, if you pay any mind to them. So, my rejoinder to the author of the quoted piece... Who do you think built all this shit? Certainly not the Millennials; they're challenged to even pick up a hammer or a shovel, let alone know how to use it, and the Gen Z'ers don't even know what the fk a hammer or a shovel even is! Everything to them is..."Whaa, housing...whaa, jobs....whaa, prices...it's all their fault!"...from the comforts of their Mommy's basement. It's pathetic, and this piece just reeks of it. Paragraph after paragraph of..."It's all their fault! I have no responsibility for any of it. They did it, not me! It was them! And how would you act if you got handed a plate of shit like we've been handed?" Well, listen up, Buck-o...just exactly who's payin' the fkin' bills around this joint while you play video games down in the basement and bitch about everything and anything? Who paid for your tuition? Not you! No, we didn't let you take out a $500,000 loan and sell your soul to the Devil so you could go party in Fort Lauderdale twice a year, buy a bunch of senseless stuff, and be irresponsible (which you still are at 20-something). But that wasn't good enough? No, now you want to bitch about it. Oh, and those jobs? Yeah, well, those jobs involve getting your lazy ass up off the couch and going outside when it's cold out, or when it's hot out, or when it's raining, and working up a sweat (something you've never experienced). 'Influencer' wasn't a career path back then; there was no Internet (for you to go belly ache on Reddit). The old man would have put a boot dead square in my ass if I ever said I wanted to be a prostitute, and that's exactly what 'Influencers' are! But don't let me interrupt your OnlyFans time here. And lets talk about something like cars for a moment, shall we? Our idea of a car was something with four wheels and ran barely well enough to get to work. Your idea of a "car" is a brand new Lexus, and anything short of this is categorically unacceptable and for "losers" (to your peers). We didn't buy cars from a dealer, we bought them from the guy down the road who had an old junker out behind his shed that we wrenched on every night just to keep it running well enough to, you guessed it, save us from having to walk to work (which we would have done, BTW). To you, cars are "too expensive". Damn straight they are! I can't even afford a Lexus today, let alone when I was 19! Get your head out of your ass! Oh, and housing? Housing wasn't any more expensive then than it is now adjusted for inflation. From our perspective, housing was always expensive...that's why we had to have a JOB to afford it! Nobody gave us any of this stuff, we had to pay for it. And we ate lots of Ramen noodles too to make sure the rent got paid. Clubbing? We didn't even know what a club was...because we couldn't even think about affording something like that. The difference today is, you don't feel like you should have to pay for anything, that everything should just be given to you free of charge...so you can go to the club on Friday night, or pay for your precious cellular phone. That's not how it works! You want free? Go live in Russia! But you'll have to get a job there too, where the highest paid professional makes half what a McDonald's server makes today. Your choice. And on the subject of recreational drugs; at least we took drugs that didn't kill us and grew in the ditch by the side of the road. We didn't go down the cleaning chemical aisle at Walmart and mix together all the stuff with skulls and crossbones on the label and then wait to see what happens. All that aside, you can call your generation anything you want, but "Mop up" ain't it, because this would mean you'd actually have to pick up a mop and use it, something you never learned how to do because it's beneath your 'Influencer' ass. So, why don't you take a moment to put that gawd-forsaken phone down and pull your head out of your ass. Complaining about everything ain't gonna' make anything better for you, and it certainly won't for the generation which follows you. Which brings up another point...this generation you loathe so much? Yeah, we built the future for follow-on generations. What have you built? Besides a massive mountain of butthurt? What's gonna' happen when we're no longer around to blame? Who ya' gonna' blame then? Sincerely, Your dad (who can still put a boot in your ass!), the true Cusper. ![]() P.S. The dude who wrote that article is as far away from being a "Cusper" between Boomers and Gen X'ers as cats are different from ham sandwiches. The author is clearly a solid late Millennial or early Gen Z'er. If not, they're a liberal who don't have generational names; they've always been about blaming everyone else since the dawn of time. RE: Peace, Love, and Property Damage - GeauxHomeLittleD - 05-06-2025 Speaking as an early Xer (1967) with Boomer parents I'd like to give my own observations about the Boomer generation from my personal perspective. My parents and all of their friends jumped on every popular "bandwagon". During my lifetime I watched them go from embracing the hippie lifestyle to becoming bikers, then on to the Disco scene followed by becoming swingers, then on to being Urban Cowboys- which ultimately led to divorce for all once that became common. While all this was going on the kids were all either being raised mostly by grandparents or fending for themselves and their younger siblings. Our parents loved us but loved themselves more, we were abused and neglected, we were expected to be adults from a very young age- and then they have the nerve to wonder why we're so nihilistic and apathetic. Why should anyone have expected Boomers to treat the world in general any better than they treated their own children? It was always only about appearances and never substance. Did they build some stuff? Sure, but only so they could get credit and accolades rather than out of a true desire to better the world. That is MY truth and the truth of the majority of the people I grew up with. RE: Peace, Love, and Property Damage - EndtheMadnessNow - 05-07-2025 (05-06-2025, 10:34 AM)FCD Wrote: What's gonna' happen when we're no longer around to blame? Who ya' gonna' blame then? Wow, some good commentary! Nope, he is in fact a boomer. I believe he was born around 1960, possibly late 50s. I've seen him on Youtube several years back. He writes a lot and think he did this one just to see reactions and if anyone agreed with him. I dunno. Apparently I'm not up with the times or back with times as I don't think I ever heard the term "Cusper" till now. I get your points (I think, mostly) and I guess everyone has their own personal experience & perception based on a lot of things. My dad is the Silent Generation & mom is a boomer. Dad can still put a boot in my ass and he's a serious workaholic. Mom is an academic and hard to fool. Both lean hard to the right on politics. I never had any issues with boomers nor blamed them for anything going on today. Sure there is always that one or two I'd like to take a swing at, but that is very rare. Most of my issues are with Millennials, but not the whole generation. The culture stigma today is horrific. How did we get here?Because of the boomer gen? Nonsense. RE: Peace, Love, and Property Damage - FCD - 05-07-2025 Born in '62 myself. Well, he has sure adopted a later generation's view of the World, IMO. Anyway, great comments. BTW - "Cusp" (at least from the context I know it in), comes from astrology. If you were born right on the border between two astrological signs, you are said to be on the 'cusp' of one or the other. People who are into that like to use it to say they are the astrological sign they prefer between the two signs. Hence, I think, his foundation for the term, "Cusper". I think he took some editorial liberty by adding the "er" at the end of the word. I don't know if that's where the term really originates, but that's the context I've heard it used most in. But you probably knew this already. RE: Peace, Love, and Property Damage - FCD - 05-08-2025 Here's some proof of just what I was talking about. I can also speak from experience personally here as well. I am no longer a blue collar trade worker, but it wasn't always that way. In fact, I started out at the bottom of the barrel with a shovel and a jackhammer. Worked my way up through the trades all the way to foreman and ultimately superintendent. At the same time I went to college and got a degree and continued on from there into what I do now which is aerospace engineering. But maybe my story is unique, but is it really? Well, it seems it's definitely not the trend of this generation who want to complain about everything (referred to in my diatribe above). Those people complaining about "no jobs", well, they aren't looking. And, it's not just me saying it either. Skilled trades all across this country are starving for workers. These are high paying jobs too, really high. All these people complaining about the rent being too high, and there being no jobs...why are they not filling these jobs? Again, it's not just me saying it either. Just look at this article by Mike Rowe... Skilled trades jobs up, workers down All these people complaining about anything and everything; the working aged man 16-64 not participating in the workforce has doubled from 11% to 22% in the past 60 years. Hmmmm...what is the generation doing all of the complaining again? Answer: People in exactly that demographic. People aren't working not because there are no jobs; they're not working because they're too lazy to get a job! No reasonable person can tell me with a straight face that people of working age in this country suddenly became less "able" to work, so what are all these lack of jobs they're complaining about? And when these same people turn around and complain about housing prices being too high, well, not having a job will do that for you. The OP opined about his quoted article "triggering" people. I initially said it didn't, but in retrospect I don't think that was completely accurate. It did in a way; in fact, I've thought about it quite a bit since reading it two days ago. And then seeing the Mike Rowe article (above) made me think about it even more. Then I remember our own situation at work...we can't find people. I've had both professional job openings, and skilled trade job openings, lay vacant for not months, but YEARS! We just can't find people. It's not a pay issue, that's for damn sure (we're talking six figures just to start). Every firm and contractor I know is begging for people. We're having to bring them from out of state even, just to fill critical jobs. It's frustrating. And then to read an article like the one quoted in the OP, just one big long whine-fest about how some previous generation fucked up their world and now there's no jobs, the rent's too high, things are too expensive (ad nauseum, gack)...yeah, it pisses me off. So, I guess I did get 'triggered', triggered by yet another example in society of people refusing to be responsible, and refusing to be accountable for not just their actions, but their entire livelihood and the livelihood of future generations. It's sad really. There's so many opportunities out there and people just aren't taking advantage of them. Yet, they've always got the time to sit on the couch and bitch about all the negative things which come as a result of not getting up off the couch and doing something about it. /rant It's 4am; I'm going to go to work now (just like always...for the past 48 years). Y'all have a great day! I know I will, achin', aged, bones and all RE: Peace, Love, and Property Damage - FCD - 05-08-2025 Ya' know, I hear many people talk about how they don't want to work as an Apprentice in a skilled trade. It's beneath them, and it doesn't pay enough. How do they expect to learn the trade unless they work as a 'trainee' first? Everyone has to pay their dues, and it's not just about some work ethic dues or initiation rites; it's about safety and proficiency. An untrained tradesman is a liability, not just to themselves, but to everyone around them, and to the organization they work for. Yet, apprenticeship is one of the main reasons why people don't go into skilled trades. Even though the pay is often high five figures even starting out as a journeyman, they're just not interested. To me, this translates into not willing to put in the time to develop a skill which will pay off in the end. I know many tradespersons who make more bank in the trades than I do. It just doesn't make any sense to me. And, it's not about unions either. No matter what trade a person goes into, there is always a learning curve. An employer is not going to invest top dollar in an employee who isn't going to be around for a week or two. They want to make sure the person is serious about...a "job". I don't see that level of motivation today. I don't see people willing to work for something. What I do see is people who just expect to make top dollar on day #1. That's not realistic. Now, many people often disagree, but then we get into what their definitions are for differences in pay. Most of these guys see some trades worker making $70 bucks an hour, so their idea of apprenticeship is to be making $69.50 per hour, and they'll proudly state (as the unemployed)..."that's as absolutely low as I'm willing to go, and I'm still getting ripped off!" It doesn't work like that. It's the wrong mindset. People aren't working because they don't want to work. It's really as simple as that. As such, they have exactly zero room to bitch about anything related to jobs, expenses, or the cost of living. My .02 |