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April 10, 2025 helicopter crash Hudson Bay - 727Sky - 04-11-2025
This is an update on the helicopter crash which killed 6 people on April 10, 2025. I have hundreds if not 1000s of hours flying a Bell 206 Jet Ranger and if maintained they are a great helicopter IMO. For this pilot to cause mask bumping and have the main rotor cut the tailboom off will be a mystery to me as it would take a massive abrupt control input to manage such a feat.
In such a situation the Helicopter becomes a non-flying brick and does not have the aerodynamics of even a lawn dart. Bad but quick way to go... Sorry for the family RIP
RE: April 10, 2025 helicopter crash Hudson Bay - Ninurta - 04-12-2025
(04-11-2025, 11:00 PM)727Sky Wrote: For this pilot to cause mask bumping and have the main rotor cut the tailboom off will be a mystery to me as it would take a massive abrupt control input to manage such a feat.
Might such a massive and abrupt control input occur if the pilot were to have a massive in-flight heart attack?
I once owned a trailer in Newport News, VA, which sat right next to Jefferson Avenue. I mean RIGHT next to it, maybe a mere 15 or 20 feet off the road. A city water truck was driving down the road one day, about a week after I sold the trailer, and the driver had a massive heart attack which caused him to jerk the wheel to the right and ram the gas to the floor. He took the trailer about amidships and drove it off the foundation, snapped the hurricane anchor straps, and utterly destroyed the trailer. The only thing that prevented him from taking out the next trailer too was a tree that stood between the two which stopped the lateral momentum.
I'm thinking that there is a possibility that a massive heart attack causing some abrupt jerking motions, amplified by the control input translating those motions into a fairly powerful machine might answer that question.
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RE: April 10, 2025 helicopter crash Hudson Bay - SomeJackleg - 04-12-2025
(04-11-2025, 11:00 PM)727Sky Wrote: This is an update on the helicopter crash which killed 6 people on April 10, 2025. I have hundreds if not 1000s of hours flying a Bell 206 Jet Ranger and if maintained they are a great helicopter IMO. For this pilot to cause mask bumping and have the main rotor cut the tailboom off will be a mystery to me as it would take a massive abrupt control input to manage such a feat.
In such a situation the Helicopter becomes a non-flying brick and does not have the aerodynamics of even a lawn dart. Bad but quick way to go... Sorry for the family RIP
heard this morning the NTSB is looking at maybe a massive bird strike. said it might have hit a whole flock and are asking for people that may have seen it, or have any video of the crash.
Quote:The National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB), during a news conference Friday at Jersey City Hall, said "everything is on the table" and it was not "rul[ing] anything out" in its investigation into the fatal crash of a tour helicopter in the Hudson River Thursday. The NTSB will look into witness reports of a large flock of birds in the area before the crash.
Police and Law Enforcement ‘Everything is on the table’ as NTSB investigates deadly Hudson River tour helicopter crash
RE: April 10, 2025 helicopter crash Hudson Bay - 727Sky - 04-12-2025
(04-12-2025, 12:00 PM)SomeJackleg Wrote:Yep a 1/2 pound bird doing 100 MPH that hits you in the face would make for a bad day and a momentarily lack of control with the aircraft(04-11-2025, 11:00 PM)727Sky Wrote: This is an update on the helicopter crash which killed 6 people on April 10, 2025. I have hundreds if not 1000s of hours flying a Bell 206 Jet Ranger and if maintained they are a great helicopter IMO. For this pilot to cause mask bumping and have the main rotor cut the tailboom off will be a mystery to me as it would take a massive abrupt control input to manage such a feat.
In such a situation the Helicopter becomes a non-flying brick and does not have the aerodynamics of even a lawn dart. Bad but quick way to go... Sorry for the family RIP
heard this morning the NTSB is looking at maybe a massive bird strike. said it might have hit a whole flock and are asking for people that may have seen it, or have any video of the crash.
Quote:The National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB), during a news conference Friday at Jersey City Hall, said "everything is on the table" and it was not "rul[ing] anything out" in its investigation into the fatal crash of a tour helicopter in the Hudson River Thursday. The NTSB will look into witness reports of a large flock of birds in the area before the crash.
Police and Law Enforcement ‘Everything is on the table’ as NTSB investigates deadly Hudson River tour helicopter crash