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California Bill Banning Voter ID - 727Sky - 09-02-2024

The fix is in and expect more insanity from the vote and election fixers

https://lists.theepochtimes.com/links/jcjh2cUIr/Jlid8tcrj/b3XK0cBSvO/6DApJh9TGI

Quote:A California bill that would ban local governments from requiring voter identification in their elections passed the state assembly, and now awaits the governor’s approval or veto.
The measure would ban local governments such as Huntington Beach—where voters recently gave the City Council the go-ahead to impose such a requirement—from enacting voter ID laws and makes clear the state has exclusive jurisdiction when it comes to the voter verification process.
Senate Bill 1174, authored by Sen. Dave Min, passed the Assembly in a 57 to 16 vote on Aug. 27.
“I have repeatedly told the Huntington Beach City Council members pushing this issue that if they were to produce any evidence of widespread voter fraud, I would lead efforts to change California’s voter eligibility rules. They have not produced any such evidence,” the Irvine Democrat said in an Aug. 30 press release following the Assembly vote.
In May the Senate approved the bill 30–8.
Min said his bill would protect against a “patchwork of varying election requirements” throughout the state, blocking all cities from requiring voters to present a government-issued identification to vote. The ban would include charter cities, which have more authority than general-law cities over such things as regulating local police and elections.

[/url]California Bill Blocking Local Voter ID Laws Passes Senate
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“We cannot have 100 different charter cities making up 100 different sets of voting rules, based on fringe conspiracy theories,” Min said, referring to questions of election integrity in the 2020 presidential election.
In a May 21 Senate floor hearing, Min said SB 1174 would create a statewide standard that prevents cities from enacting their own policies, which he said could disenfranchise voters.
In a recent Assembly Local Government bill analysis, Min argued that voter ID requirements only create barriers for voters but don’t protect against fraud, as voters already must verify their identity when they register.
He said the state already automatically recounts some ballots, does signature verification checks, and allows voters to track their ballots.
“We will not concede to ploys of voter fraud while an overwhelming body of evidence proves our elections are safe, secure, and above board,” he said.
Voters in California are required to show identification only if they didn’t provide a driver’s license number or the last four digits of their Social Security number when registering, but the secretary of state also accepts credit or debit cards, student IDs, or an ID from a commercial establishment.
For mail-in ballots, those without proper identification are treated as provisional ballots per existing state law and election officials are supposed to request proof before counting them. In the 2022 statewide general election, 660 ballots were rejected because of identification issues.
During the March 5 primary election, voters in Huntington Beach, a charter city in Orange County, approved a charter amendment to allow voter ID requirements in city elections starting in 2026.
But according to Min, if SB 1174 is signed by Gov. Gavin Newsom, the bill would nullify the city’s Measure A before it takes effect.
Huntington Beach City Attorney Michael Gates told The Epoch Times in a recent interview that Min’s bill is “pure political symbolism” in response to the city’s recently passed measure.
He said as a charter city, under Article XI, Section 5 (b) of the California Constitution, Huntington Beach has a right to have voter ID, and the state will lose any legal challenges it brings.
“The state is running headlong into another legal clash, which it will lose miserably. Huntington Beach has it right, the state has it completely wrong. And all Californians want election integrity. It’s common sense,” he said in a text message to The Epoch Times.
According to Huntington Beach Mayor Gracey Van Der Mark, residents have said they would feel more secure if IDs are checked at in-person polling stations.
“We put it out there on the ballot, they said we want this and the state is doing everything within their power to stop us from honoring what the voters have been asking us for,” she told The Epoch Times in a May interview when Min’s bill first cleared the Senate.
California is one of 15 states that doesn’t ask for photo ID at the ballot box, according to lawmakers.
Newsom has until Sept. 30 to sign or veto the bill.
Travis Gillmore contributed to this report.



RE: California Bill Banning Voter ID - FlickerOfLight - 09-02-2024

(09-02-2024, 07:32 AM)727Sky Wrote: The fix is in and expect more insanity from the vote and election fixers

https://lists.theepochtimes.com/links/jcjh2cUIr/Jlid8tcrj/b3XK0cBSvO/6DApJh9TGI

Quote:A California bill that would ban local governments from requiring voter identification in their elections passed the state assembly, and now awaits the governor’s approval or veto.
The measure would ban local governments such as Huntington Beach—where voters recently gave the City Council the go-ahead to impose such a requirement—from enacting voter ID laws and makes clear the state has exclusive jurisdiction when it comes to the voter verification process.
Senate Bill 1174, authored by Sen. Dave Min, passed the Assembly in a 57 to 16 vote on Aug. 27.
“I have repeatedly told the Huntington Beach City Council members pushing this issue that if they were to produce any evidence of widespread voter fraud, I would lead efforts to change California’s voter eligibility rules. They have not produced any such evidence,” the Irvine Democrat said in an Aug. 30 press release following the Assembly vote.
In May the Senate approved the bill 30–8.
Min said his bill would protect against a “patchwork of varying election requirements” throughout the state, blocking all cities from requiring voters to present a government-issued identification to vote. The ban would include charter cities, which have more authority than general-law cities over such things as regulating local police and elections.

[/url]California Bill Blocking Local Voter ID Laws Passes Senate
[url=https://www.theepochtimes.com/us/california-bill-blocking-local-voter-id-laws-passes-senate-5658620?ea_src=author_manual&ea_med=related_stories]

“We cannot have 100 different charter cities making up 100 different sets of voting rules, based on fringe conspiracy theories,” Min said, referring to questions of election integrity in the 2020 presidential election.
In a May 21 Senate floor hearing, Min said SB 1174 would create a statewide standard that prevents cities from enacting their own policies, which he said could disenfranchise voters.
In a recent Assembly Local Government bill analysis, Min argued that voter ID requirements only create barriers for voters but don’t protect against fraud, as voters already must verify their identity when they register.
He said the state already automatically recounts some ballots, does signature verification checks, and allows voters to track their ballots.
“We will not concede to ploys of voter fraud while an overwhelming body of evidence proves our elections are safe, secure, and above board,” he said.
Voters in California are required to show identification only if they didn’t provide a driver’s license number or the last four digits of their Social Security number when registering, but the secretary of state also accepts credit or debit cards, student IDs, or an ID from a commercial establishment.
For mail-in ballots, those without proper identification are treated as provisional ballots per existing state law and election officials are supposed to request proof before counting them. In the 2022 statewide general election, 660 ballots were rejected because of identification issues.
During the March 5 primary election, voters in Huntington Beach, a charter city in Orange County, approved a charter amendment to allow voter ID requirements in city elections starting in 2026.
But according to Min, if SB 1174 is signed by Gov. Gavin Newsom, the bill would nullify the city’s Measure A before it takes effect.
Huntington Beach City Attorney Michael Gates told The Epoch Times in a recent interview that Min’s bill is “pure political symbolism” in response to the city’s recently passed measure.
He said as a charter city, under Article XI, Section 5 (b) of the California Constitution, Huntington Beach has a right to have voter ID, and the state will lose any legal challenges it brings.
“The state is running headlong into another legal clash, which it will lose miserably. Huntington Beach has it right, the state has it completely wrong. And all Californians want election integrity. It’s common sense,” he said in a text message to The Epoch Times.
According to Huntington Beach Mayor Gracey Van Der Mark, residents have said they would feel more secure if IDs are checked at in-person polling stations.
“We put it out there on the ballot, they said we want this and the state is doing everything within their power to stop us from honoring what the voters have been asking us for,” she told The Epoch Times in a May interview when Min’s bill first cleared the Senate.
California is one of 15 states that doesn’t ask for photo ID at the ballot box, according to lawmakers.
Newsom has until Sept. 30 to sign or veto the bill.
Travis Gillmore contributed to this report.

Smoke and mirror show. Cheers.


RE: California Bill Banning Voter ID - Ninurta - 09-03-2024

(09-02-2024, 07:32 AM)727Sky Wrote: The fix is in and expect more insanity from the vote and election fixers

https://lists.theepochtimes.com/links/jcjh2cUIr/Jlid8tcrj/b3XK0cBSvO/6DApJh9TGI

Quote:... makes clear the state has exclusive jurisdiction when it comes to the voter verification process.

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An interesting turn of phrase, and a tacit admission of guilt. Whatever happened to "of the People, by the People, and for the People"? This "law" removes authority from the People, and transfers it to the State - just another example of the increasing centralization of power occurring in America, just as it did in the Soviet Union and ALL other Communist enclaves around the world in the 20th century.

"The Dwarf" in "Shibumi" says "dangers comes neither from the Right nor the Left, but it comes from the Center". What is being referred to is the Centralization of power, it's removal from the subjects and concentration in an increasingly alienating governmental body that no longer cares for the People, but exists solely to perpetuate itself and maintain - and increase - it's hold on power over those same "People". We see the same thing happening currently in the US, where states are seizing power from their constituencies, and the Federal government is, in turn, seizing that power from the States and gathering it to themselves, concentrating that power in Washington DC to the detriment of everyone else across the nation. While they claim it is to "defend OUR democracy™", it does not involve any "democracy" at all, it is pure authoritarian totalitarianism. A "democracy" gives power to the People involved, allows them to make decisions over their own lives. Centralization of power does exactly the opposite.

In the example of California, there is a sizeable, but dwindling, representation of "Right wing" or "Conservative" peoples, which the Leftists live in abject fear of. So, in order to shift the balance of power to their own favor, they make sure "the State" controls all, with the support of a sizeable, but concentrated, knot of Leftists, which are invariably concentrated in urban strongholds and live like ants in a nest. In effect, small areas of the state control much more vast areas of it, really those small enclaves control the entirety of the state.

They make the rules that ALL have to abide by, and to insure that, they pass "preemption" laws that take away the ability of localities, which may be far removed from the decision makers and almost certainly disagree with them, to make their own rules and govern their own jurisdictions.

One of the problems of that, apart from disenfranchising everyone NOT in the government from having any control over their own lives, is the question of what happens when the opposition seizes control of the political machinery and power structures the Leftists have built to insulate themselves from the consequences of their own actions? What happens when the Right takes over the machine the Left has built and centralized, and decides to promote their own draconian changes from on high down through the pipelines the Left has built?

What happens when the Right uses the Left's own machinery to force the LEFT to toe the mark just as the Left is right now doing to the Right? Will they be as giddy about "Our Democracy™" then as they are now?

After all, it's still "Our Democracy™", isn't it? The same sham of a democracy that they themselves built... only now being used against them...

The only way to prevent such travesties of justice coming "from neither the Right nor the Left, but instead the Center", is to de-centralize power. Give more of it to the local governments, and to the People themselves, and remove it from centralized "Authorities". That is the ONLY way to prevent central authorities from running roughshod over the People at will - by taking away their power and putting it back into the hands of the People.

You know, by re-structuring governments into the forms that the Constitution mandated that they be in in the first place! Small, weak Central governments, with the authority increasing the more locally you went - "All powers not expressly delegated to the Federal Government are to be reserved for the states themselves, or to the People"... we've gotten a long way from that mandate in the time that has passed since the Civil War.

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