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Putin Urged To Deploy Nukes To Cut Off Ukraine's NATO Aid - EndtheMadnessNow - 08-17-2024

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Quote:Russian physicist has urged President Vladimir Putin in a letter to strike Ukraine with nuclear weapons to speed up the outcome of the war and cut off supply routes that facilitate the transport of aid from Western nations.

A copy of the letter sent by Anatoly Volyntsev, physicist and professor at Perm State University, to the Russian leader was obtained by independent Russian newspaper Novaya Gazeta. The publication then conducted a sit-down interview with Volyntsev about the letter's contents.

Putin's war in Ukraine, now in its third year, has intensified in recent days after Kyiv launched a surprise incursion into Russia's Kursk region on August 6, seizing nearly as much territory as Moscow has captured in Ukraine since the start of the year. Ukrainian Armed Forces Commander-in-Chief Oleksandr Syrsky has said Kyiv is now in control of about 1,000 square kilometers (386 square miles) of Kursk.

Newsweek has contacted Ukraine's Foreign Ministry for comment by email.

Ties between Washington and Moscow have become increasingly strained over Putin's decision to launch a full-scale invasion of Ukraine in February 2022. Russian officials have routinely accused NATO of being complicit in the war by providing Kyiv with aid and weapons.

Volyntsev told Novaya Gazeta that he told Putin to consider the use of nuclear weapons in the war "to achieve all goals faster," given that the conflict has been raging for two and a half years.

"The situation at the front has become so bogged down and drawn out," he said, adding that Moscow has failed to carry out any "major breakthrough military actions."


While Russia has the advantage, "we are moving quite slowly," the physicist said.

"The [Russian] people have a question: when will we finally finish and achieve what we wanted?" he asked. "Secondly, we have to endure terrorist attacks on Russian soil, and these attacks are organized, in fact, by the West, with the help of Western weapons, with the help of their intelligence resources, in fact with the direct participation of the collective West. And we do not respond. And here the people have a question: why not respond properly, we are a nuclear power?"

Volyntsev proposed using nuclear weapons to strike Ukraine's Beskydy Tunnel, a rail route in the Lviv region that is reportedly used to transport Western weapons used by Ukraine's Armed Forces.


He said it would be "very difficult" to destroy with conventional weapons, given that tunnels are "the most reliable bomb shelters."

The destructive power of nuclear weapons is much greater, the physicist said.

Volyntsev suggested using "small hydrogen bombs" to conduct a "gentle nuclear strike" on the tunnel "in order to block the main supply routes."

"Yes, some radioactivity will be induced. But this is an option that does not leave a large radioactive contamination of the atmosphere and load on the soil," he said. "Yes, there will be casualties…but everything can be done with minimal destruction."


Volyntsev described the conflict as it stands as "a war of attrition."

"Without Western assistance, everything would have ended long ago. How can this Western assistance be cut off?" he asked. "It is necessary to block the flow of weapons, other materials and equipment that allow the Ukrainian regime to exist."

Putin Urged To Deploy Nukes To Cut Off Ukraine's NATO Aid

I wonder if Russia has the same exotic nuclear weapons technology as the US? That being a Hydrogen bomb which is claimed to be 99.9% Clean. Authorized, developed & tested under JFK in 1962. This gives the frightening connotation that nuclear war could be won. 60 years later and I'm sure they have it down to tactical size.

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Putin’s secret files reveal Russia’s top targets for nuclear strikes on UK


Oh dear, this could be a deliberate "leak", but nevertheless...

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Vladimir Putin's UK nuclear missile targets leaked


RE: Putin Urged To Deploy Nukes To Cut Off Ukraine's NATO Aid - Ninurta - 08-18-2024

(08-17-2024, 11:28 PM)EndtheMadnessNow Wrote: [Image: 42QFo9R.jpg]
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Putin Urged To Deploy Nukes To Cut Off Ukraine's NATO Aid

Whoa! The headline said "deploy", but the body of the article said "strike" - big difference between those two! Nations "deploy" nukes to create fear and uncertainty in order to scare an opponent into submission. They STRIKE to kill folks and blow shit up. A deployment just makes folks jittery, a strike invites retaliation.

If Putin is going to just deploy nukes, he'll wait until after the US election so he knows if he's going to have to deal with a weak, meaningless response from the third Obama term, or if he's going to have to sleep with one eye open with a second Trump term.

If, on the other hand, he's going to strike with nukes, he'll do that BEFORE the US elections, to be assured of a weak, ineffective US response.

A "deployment" is long term, crosses regime changes, and invites the deployer to take a risk of having to eat shit if a regime comes to power that might stand up to him. A strike, though, is lighting-fast, and once done is done. No one can make the striker un-do it regardless of their stance on the matter after the fact. It's fast, winner takes all, and cannot be undone after a regime change.

Quote:I wonder if Russia has the same exotic nuclear weapons technology as the US? That being a Hydrogen bomb which is claimed to be 99.9% Clean. Authorized, developed & tested under JFK in 1962. This gives the frightening connotation that nuclear war could be won. 60 years later and I'm sure they have it down to tactical size.

No such critter as a "clean" nuke. Instead, radioactive spread is determined by "burst height" - how high above the ground the bomb is exploded. If the fireball touches the ground, it's going to generate masses of fallout that will spread radioactivity downwind of the strike zone. The radioactivity doesn't come from the bomb per se, it comes from condensate coming out of the fireball condensing on vaporized granules of dirt  and vaporized buildings, people, etc from the ground, which then precipitates as it cools and is blown down wind.

Neutron bombs are the most insidious - they kill everything in sight while leaving buildings, infrastructure, and the Earth intact and unradiated. So they can be used to kill everyone in a city, and then immediately move in and take over said city for one's self with no radioactive danger to the invasion forces.


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Vladimir Putin's UK nuclear missile targets leaked

"Mad Vlad's UK Targets for nuclear inhalation have been disclosed"? "Nuclear inhalation"? I think they must have meant "annihilation". Don't these papers employ editors or proofreaders any more?

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RE: Putin Urged To Deploy Nukes To Cut Off Ukraine's NATO Aid - NightskyeB4Dawn - 08-18-2024

The solution to war is for people to just say "No".

If the so called leaders want to go to battle, let them.

There are no such things as "human shields." All civilians are cannon fodder. All are expendable, as long as TPTB get what they want.

Dead is dead, regardless of who pulls the trigger. If more of the elite die than the rest of us, they will stop this madness.

The only winners in war are the wealthy and the so called elite. Maybe it is time for a change.


RE: Putin Urged To Deploy Nukes To Cut Off Ukraine's NATO Aid - EndtheMadnessNow - 08-19-2024

(08-18-2024, 07:48 AM)" Ninurta Wrote:
(08-17-2024, 11:28 PM)EndtheMadnessNow Wrote: [Image: 42QFo9R.jpg]
Quote:...

Putin Urged To Deploy Nukes To Cut Off Ukraine's NATO Aid

Whoa! The headline said "deploy", but the body of the article said "strike" - big difference between those two! Nations "deploy" nukes to create fear and uncertainty in order to scare an opponent into submission. They STRIKE to kill folks and blow shit up. A deployment just makes folks jittery, a strike invites retaliation.

If Putin is going to just deploy nukes, he'll wait until after the US election so he knows if he's going to have to deal with a weak, meaningless response from the third Obama term, or if he's going to have to sleep with one eye open with a second Trump term.

If, on the other hand, he's going to strike with nukes, he'll do that BEFORE the US elections, to be assured of a weak, ineffective US response.

A "deployment" is long term, crosses regime changes, and invites the deployer to take a risk of having to eat shit if a regime comes to power that might stand up to him. A strike, though, is lighting-fast, and once done is done. No one can make the striker un-do it regardless of their stance on the matter after the fact. It's fast, winner takes all, and cannot be undone after a regime change.

Quote:I wonder if Russia has the same exotic nuclear weapons technology as the US? That being a Hydrogen bomb which is claimed to be 99.9% Clean. Authorized, developed & tested under JFK in 1962. This gives the frightening connotation that nuclear war could be won. 60 years later and I'm sure they have it down to tactical size.

No such critter as a "clean" nuke. Instead, radioactive spread is determined by "burst height" - how high above the ground the bomb is exploded. If the fireball touches the ground, it's going to generate masses of fallout that will spread radioactivity downwind of the strike zone. The radioactivity doesn't come from the bomb per se, it comes from condensate coming out of the fireball condensing on vaporized granules of dirt  and vaporized buildings, people, etc from the ground, which then precipitates as it cools and is blown down wind.

Neutron bombs are the most insidious - they kill everything in sight while leaving buildings, infrastructure, and the Earth intact and unradiated. So they can be used to kill everyone in a city, and then immediately move in and take over said city for one's self with no radioactive danger to the invasion forces.

That is what I always use to think about so-called "clean" nukes, until recently. The clean hydrogen nuke technology is apparently real, developed back in the 50s by a Nazi physicist down in Argentina and supposedly perfected by the US during JFK timeframe. That same physicist consulted on some of our H-bomb tests. The US military did 31 nuke tests under "Operation Dominic" in 1962 and the very last one was marked success, 99.9% clean. Ok, what exactly does "clean" mean?

Assuming near zero radiation and if that is true, then it was not just a revolution in nuclear weapons technology but also think cold fusion.

The tech of course is still classified and you will find nothing detailed about it on the Internet. That is until a MIT scholar published a paper on it in 2021. Unfortunately, it's one of those academic papers that you have to purchase. I'm looking for a free copy that may pop up somewhere.

Now of course from 60+ years ago this could all be a ruse to make the Russians think we have the ability to nuke them without all the nasty fallout. If this black tech is real then I'm sure Putin has it by now. Both sides could be bluffing or not. Putin tends not to bluff.

Why is there all this hysteria about people wanting to fight a nuclear war with Russia? Note that the Russians are not saying you're gonna die in a radioactive wasteland so much as they are saying your cities will be blasted off the map. Both sides know...each knows the other has the capability or perhaps a dangerous poker game is being played. The US may doubt, but never zero and Putin is like FAFO...mess with me and find out.

So, that MIT paper may hold some answers and/or give a better idea if such actually exists without leaking classified info. When/if I find a copy I'll post here.

Yea, Neutron bombs may be the worst weapon man has ever invented. Although Carter canceled the neutron bomb program in 1978, we were told that Ronald Reagan reversed that cancellation in 1981.

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RE: Putin Urged To Deploy Nukes To Cut Off Ukraine's NATO Aid - sailorsam - 08-19-2024

would be horribly ironic if we survived the cold war without any nukes
only to see some little Stalin wannabe use them long after we thought the threat was gone.

I could imagine Islamofascists using nuclear weapons/devices, but until the last year I never would have imagined anyone else using them.

really hoping some Russian Generals get together and do the world a favor and coup him to Siberia.  or Saint Helena.  or Cuba.  or whatever.
(ha ha let him live out his days starving in North Korea)