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Spies and more Spies - 727Sky - 08-17-2024
Destabilization of governments and just out right killings
Quote:There is a spy war between Russia and Europe right now that no one is talking about. NATO the EU and the Kremlin are fighting an all out hybrid war right now. Assassinations, arsons, and disinformation are central to Moscow's attempt to limit aid to Ukraine.
RE: Spies and more Spies - sailorsam - 08-19-2024
when the Berlin Wall fell a lot of us hoped for a peaceful New World Order.
Putin has singlehandedly re-started the Cold War, and only the ineptness of the Russian army keeps Europe from being threatened with conquest.
I just don't understand the mindset. He says he wants to glorify Mother Russia but he's only promoting himself, to everyone else's detriment.
RE: Spies and more Spies - Ninurta - 08-22-2024
(08-19-2024, 03:53 PM)sailorsam Wrote: when the Berlin Wall fell a lot of us hoped for a peaceful New World Order.
Putin has single-handedly re-started the Cold War, and only the ineptness of the Russian army keeps Europe from being threatened with conquest.
I just don't understand the mindset. He says he wants to glorify Mother Russia but he's only promoting himself, to everyone else's detriment.
I don't think Putin did it single-handedly. The Klinton Klan had a heavy hand in rekindling the Cold War, too. Remember Killary's "Big Red Button", and of course the chorus of "Russia, Russia, RUSSIA!" emanating out of the American Left, often orchestrated by the Klinton Klan,
I personally think that the American Left felt betrayed when the Soviet Union fell, and have had a hard-on for Russia ever since on account of Russia's "betrayal" of the Communist Revolution world-wide. Now the American commies have no major source of external support that the Soviets supplied to them, thus they are butt-hurt and grouchy towards Russia.
Had it not been for the American Left (and I'm including both Bush regimes in that category, as they were Neocons, i.e. "Leftists in Right-wing clothing"), we could have had a glorious peace in the aftermath of the Soviet collapse, and an unequaled period of peace and co-operation with the Russians.
Keep in mind that the above analysis comes from a guy who happily killed Soviets in Afghanistan, a regular war-mongering son-of-a-bitch. So, I don't say it lightly. War is only excusable when someone is trying to kill you. Continuing to hammer on folks you wouldn't otherwise have had to kill, and turning them into enemies yet again, is a very, very BAD thing to my way of thinking. I'd rather be fishing than fighting enemies we created ourselves, but here we are.
In other words, friends are better than enemies, so while it is acceptable to turn enemies into friends, it's a dumbass move to do the converse.
No doubt the MIC had a heavy hand in the rekindling as well. Peace is bad for their business, and they make a lot less money when everyone is holding hands and singing "Kumbaya". When that happens, those bastards have to look at getting an honest job, and that rankles them, ruffles their fucking feathers real good..
Did you ever notice how, whenever Trump would call up the Kremlin and say something like "hey, I have an idea - how 'bout we throw a party instead of a war?" a collective gasp would emanate from the American Left (and the Neocons... and the MIC...), and the next morning all of the major news outlets would start calling Trump "Putin's Puppet"? I noticed it... and I have to ask, just what is WRONG with peace if you can have it without capitulation? I mean, what's wrong with it other than the fact that the MIC have to start looking for honest jobs, that is...
The US had a prime opportunity to make peace, influence the direction of Russia, and make new friends, and we blew it under the Bush-Klinton regimes. We could have been heroes, but elected to create new enemies instead. had we played our cars right, I bet Putin would never even have been able to seize power there at all.
So, no, I don't think Putin did it single-handedly, and probably wouldn't have been able to do it at all had not the American Left handed him the keys to his own kingdom.
But yes, I do remember when The Wall came down, and the hope that engendered everywhere, just before the American Left crushed that hope under heel like a bug...
Potsdammer Platz, Berlin, 1953-1990:
"The children of tomorrow" mentioned in the song are here now, and adults, and the American Left is STILL trying to throw them into a war with Russia...
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RE: Spies and more Spies - 727Sky - 08-22-2024
Putin must regret the day he invaded Ukraine and listened and believed in the propaganda about his supposedly great military machine.
I will not be surprised if he gets done in by a stealth attack pillow while he sleeps and then falls from a ten story balcony... Xi/CCP is another one I would like to see fall even more than Putin.
RE: Spies and more Spies - sailorsam - 08-22-2024
traditionally Democrats hate spending money on military stuff, but I think there are a bunch of Clintons and Bidens in there that can be per$uaded to think otherwise
look at how much money Biden and the Clintons and Pelosi and Sanders &tc have piled up. no way they did that legitimately.