(07-13-2024, 10:49 PM)727Sky Wrote: For those who have wondered how they would remove Trump... well here was a more direct try.

(07-13-2024, 10:57 PM)NightskyeB4Dawn Wrote:

(07-13-2024, 10:49 PM)727Sky Wrote: For those who have wondered how they would remove Trump... well here was a more direct try.

Just a stunt to justify escalation.

They are playing us like a fine tuned violin.

(07-13-2024, 10:49 PM)727Sky Wrote: For those who have wondered how they would remove Trump... well here was a more direct try.



Surprised more people were not shot as there were several shots fired... Gotta go for the head as Trump has bullet proof vest on ...

(07-13-2024, 11:11 PM)Ninurta Wrote:

(07-13-2024, 10:57 PM)NightskyeB4Dawn Wrote:

(07-13-2024, 10:49 PM)727Sky Wrote: For those who have wondered how they would remove Trump... well here was a more direct try.

Just a stunt to justify escalation.

They are playing us like a fine tuned violin.

I've dealt with bullets all my life. Bullets ain't "stunts", they'll kill you permanently dead.  Water balloons are "stunts", not bullets.

Justify escalation of what?

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(07-13-2024, 11:19 PM)727Sky Wrote: One bystander dead and another in critical condition. Trumps was grazed but evidently is OK. Shooter is reportedly dead.

(07-14-2024, 12:38 AM)EndtheMadnessNow Wrote: Meanwhile, the division of people into different realities continues...

(07-13-2024, 11:48 PM)Ninurta Wrote: I've watched the video a couple of times to try to tease out some information. I'd say it was a suppressed .22, probably a pistol - riles are generally a little more effective at suppression, since you can work more barrel into the suppressor. You can hear the bullets slap just before the weapon reports.

Back in the day, suppressed .22 were "assassin weapons", and the training was to pump multiple rounds - 4 or 5 at least - into the back of the target's head. Multiple rounds because .22 may not penetrate the skull on the first round.

Alternatively, it may have been a rifle from a farther distance, going by the time lag between the bullet slap and the weapon report, which was a fraction of a second, but noticeable. Could have been up to a couple hundred yards, as sound travels at 1100 feet per second at sea level.

Gotta wonder just how a weapon got that close to a politician at a political rally. You can wonder that while also wondering who might be in the market to hire a "professional" assassin to kill Trump...

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(07-14-2024, 01:28 AM)SomeJackleg Wrote:

(07-13-2024, 11:48 PM)Ninurta Wrote: I've watched the video a couple of times to try to tease out some information. I'd say it was a suppressed .22, probably a pistol - riles are generally a little more effective at suppression, since you can work more barrel into the suppressor. You can hear the bullets slap just before the weapon reports.

Back in the day, suppressed .22 were "assassin weapons", and the training was to pump multiple rounds - 4 or 5 at least - into the back of the target's head. Multiple rounds because .22 may not penetrate the skull on the first round.

Alternatively, it may have been a rifle from a farther distance, going by the time lag between the bullet slap and the weapon report, which was a fraction of a second, but noticeable. Could have been up to a couple hundred yards, as sound travels at 1100 feet per second at sea level.

Gotta wonder just how a weapon got that close to a politician at a political rally. You can wonder that while also wondering who might be in the market to hire a "professional" assassin to kill Trump...

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abc news is saying that reports have come in saying it was a M4 style rifle, 8 shots fired from 200 to 300 yards from a elevated position, M4 Style could be any caliber.

regardless, seeing how they already labeled it new gun ban rhetoric is fixing to start na d seeing how trump just won the election, i wouldn't doubt he jumps on it to.

(07-14-2024, 01:34 AM)727Sky Wrote:

(07-14-2024, 01:28 AM)SomeJackleg Wrote:

(07-13-2024, 11:48 PM)Ninurta Wrote: I've watched the video a couple of times to try to tease out some information. I'd say it was a suppressed .22, probably a pistol - riles are generally a little more effective at suppression, since you can work more barrel into the suppressor. You can hear the bullets slap just before the weapon reports.

Back in the day, suppressed .22 were "assassin weapons", and the training was to pump multiple rounds - 4 or 5 at least - into the back of the target's head. Multiple rounds because .22 may not penetrate the skull on the first round.

Alternatively, it may have been a rifle from a farther distance, going by the time lag between the bullet slap and the weapon report, which was a fraction of a second, but noticeable. Could have been up to a couple hundred yards, as sound travels at 1100 feet per second at sea level.

Gotta wonder just how a weapon got that close to a politician at a political rally. You can wonder that while also wondering who might be in the market to hire a "professional" assassin to kill Trump...

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abc news is saying that reports have come in saying it was a M4 style rifle, 8 shots fired from 200 to 300 yards from a elevated position, M4 Style could be any caliber.

regardless, seeing how they already labeled it new gun ban rhetoric is fixing to start na d seeing how trump just won the election, i wouldn't doubt he jumps on it to.

According to Trump's speech at the NRA he is a strong supporter of the 2d so I do not expect him to jump on that bandwagon...

(07-14-2024, 12:38 AM)EndtheMadnessNow Wrote: ...

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Video of the alleged shooter lying dead on a rooftop...

https://x.com/sentdefender/status/1812268165209928124



I'm waiting for the Zapruder angle.

(07-14-2024, 01:28 AM)SomeJackleg Wrote: abc news is saying that reports have come in saying it was a M4 style rifle, 8 shots fired from 200 to 300 yards from a elevated position, M4 Style could be any caliber.

regardless, seeing how they already labeled it, i expect new gun ban rhetoric is fixing to start and seeing how trump just won the election, i wouldn't doubt he jumps on it to.

(07-14-2024, 01:34 AM)727Sky Wrote:

(07-14-2024, 01:28 AM)SomeJackleg Wrote: abc news is saying that reports have come in saying it was a M4 style rifle, 8 shots fired from 200 to 300 yards from a elevated position, M4 Style could be any caliber.

regardless, seeing how they already labeled it new gun ban rhetoric is fixing to start na d seeing how trump just won the election, i wouldn't doubt he jumps on it to.

According to Trump's speech at the NRA he is a strong supporter of the 2d so I do not expect him to jump on that bandwagon...

(07-14-2024, 02:24 AM)Ninurta Wrote:

(07-14-2024, 01:34 AM)727Sky Wrote:

(07-14-2024, 01:28 AM)SomeJackleg Wrote: abc news is saying that reports have come in saying it was a M4 style rifle, 8 shots fired from 200 to 300 yards from a elevated position, M4 Style could be any caliber.

regardless, seeing how they already labeled it new gun ban rhetoric is fixing to start na d seeing how trump just won the election, i wouldn't doubt he jumps on it to.

According to Trump's speech at the NRA he is a strong supporter of the 2d so I do not expect him to jump on that bandwagon...

I don't think he will, either, because it would be political suicide in what is almost a sure bet at election after this stunt.

However, I can't help by recall how quickly he jumped on to the "bump stock ban", which pissed a lot of folks off. I have no use for bump stocks, but a lot of folks got ALL bent out of shape over that one.

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(07-14-2024, 02:21 AM)Ninurta Wrote:

(07-14-2024, 01:28 AM)SomeJackleg Wrote: abc news is saying that reports have come in saying it was a M4 style rifle, 8 shots fired from 200 to 300 yards from a elevated position, M4 Style could be any caliber.

regardless, seeing how they already labeled it, i expect new gun ban rhetoric is fixing to start and seeing how trump just won the election, i wouldn't doubt he jumps on it to.

I expect they'll give it a go at another ban attempt, too. Whether Trump jumps on that bandwagon is anyone's guess, but I believe it would be a mistake to jeopardize his sure bet at re-election by dog-piling on to that Leftist anti-gun rhetoric.

They won't get it done, of course, because if they did, as high as emotions and the Left-Right schism are at the moment, there would probably be a lot more holes starting to appear in politicians if they looked likely to shred the Constitution like that.

Odd. 8 shots fired, and from what I'm hearing they came from beyond the top right corner of the bandstand behind Trump... both casualties mentioned so far were also in that area. So where are the casualties from the crowd IN FRONT of Trump, where the bullets should have landed?

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Quote:I expect they'll give it a go at another ban attempt, too. Whether Trump jumps on that bandwagon is anyone's guess, but I believe it would be a mistake to jeopardize his sure bet at re-election by dog-piling on to that Leftist anti-gun rhetoric.

Quote:They won't get it done, of course, because if they did, as high as emotions and the Left-Right schism are at the moment, there would probably be a lot more holes starting to appear in politicians if they looked likely to shred the Constitution like that.

Quote:Odd. 8 shots fired, and from what I'm hearing they came from beyond the top right corner of the bandstand behind Trump... both casualties mentioned so far were also in that area. So where are the casualties from the crowd IN FRONT of Trump, where the bullets should have landed?

(07-14-2024, 02:56 AM)Schmoe Wrote: I haven't read this thread yet, but how could a shooter get onto that roof undetected?  It's the MOST obvious spot for somebody to try something.  

If you look at the rally point on satellite view, there's nothing but residential neighborhood behind where Trump was standing.  I can't believe the Secret Service could drop the ball that badly.