Democrats Push Bill To AUTOMATICALLY Add Men To Draft, Prepping For WAR

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Democrats Push Bill To AUTOMATICALLY Add Men To Draft, Prepping For WAR - Infolurker - 06-12-2024

Yeah, I don't want my kids or grandchildren joining either, not unless there are some big changes and I am a 3rd generation (that I know of since I have no idea of my grandfather's father) veteran.

PJ explains it pretty well, do you want to fight for "these people and their sick values?"

RE: Democrats Push Bill To AUTOMATICALLY Add Men To Draft, Prepping For WAR - Michigan Swamp Buck - 06-12-2024

Lawmakers move to automate Selective Service registration for all men

Quote:Language included in the House Armed Services Committee’s draft of the annual defense authorization bill would mandate the automatic registration of all males between ages 18 and 26 living in America in the Selective Service System, the federal database used for a military draft in case of a national emergency.

www.militarytimes.com

Big deal, they don't have to register like I had to. But it is lazy and I'd like to see those lazy bastards get punished for not registering for the selective service. I say keep the law as it is and make them criminals for not registering.

RE: Democrats Push Bill To AUTOMATICALLY Add Men To Draft, Prepping For WAR - Freija - 06-12-2024

I should just ignore this but oh boy! More rightwing triggered hysterical propaganda nonsense too good to pass up. Aren’t you registered?

The draft ended January 27, 1973.

Nearly all males nationwide are required by federal law to register with Selective Service when they turn 18 years old, even those who believe they'll be exempt from serving. In the event of a draft, men called for induction would be able to make a claim for deferments, postponements, or exemption from serving.

Failure to register is a felony punishable by a fine of up to $250,000 and/or 5 years imprisonment although no one has been prosecuted since the 1980s. Non-registrants may be denied the following benefits for life: State-based student loans and grant programs in 31 states. Federal job training under the Workforce Innovation and Opportunity Act (formerly Workforce Investment Act) Federal (and many state and local) jobs. Also, a person who knowingly counsels, aids, or abets another to fail to comply with the registration requirement is subject to the same penalties.

The Selective Service System now accepts early submission of registration information by 17 year old males. The Agency holds their registration information and automatically enters their data into the system when they turn 18.

States with automatic DLL process a man's application for a state learner's permit, driver's license or renewal, or I.D. card as consent to have his information automatically transferred to Selective Service for registration if he is between the ages of 18-25.

The National Registration Rate, compliance with the law requiring registration is 84 percent. It seems some sort of automatic registration would streamline and simplify things?

Note: Much to my mental anguish, even I registered for the draft when I turned 18 shortly before the draft was officially ended. Transgender persons assigned male at birth are still required to contact Selective Service and may be able to obtain a status information letter that clarifies whether or not they are exempt from the registration requirement.

RE: Democrats Push Bill To AUTOMATICALLY Add Men To Draft, Prepping For WAR - EndtheMadnessNow - 06-12-2024

That Army vet guy is on target, imo.

Hmmm, "All men"? Seems sexist. In normal times sure and I guess the other 47 genders are exempt and what about those boys who identify as women, binary, cats, etc. Where's that Metoo crowd screaming equality. I think "Automatically" is the key word here. What else is that age group being automatically opted in.?

Like MSB said, I'd like to see the woke crowd get punished for not registering. Register now or goto front lines of eastern front Ukraine.

Unlike myself, my kids don't have any interest on joining the military. They're far from woke nonsense and have no interest on becoming cannon fodder.

RE: Democrats Push Bill To AUTOMATICALLY Add Men To Draft, Prepping For WAR - Freija - 06-12-2024

(06-12-2024, 04:06 AM)EndtheMadnessNow Wrote: Like MSB said, I'd like to see the woke crowd get punished for not registering. Register now or goto front lines of eastern front Ukraine.

Unlike myself, my kids don't have any interest on joining the military. They're far from woke nonsense and have no interest on becoming cannon fodder.

Using woke as a pejorative is so years ago. It has simply become a catch-all term for Social Justice-y Things I Don’t Like.

Whether your kids have any interest in joining the military or not, if they were born male they are still required by federal law to register with the Selective Service when they turn 18.

Quote:Hmmm, "All men"? Seems sexist. In normal times sure and I guess the other 47 genders are exempt and what about those boys who identify as women, binary, cats, etc. Where's that Metoo crowd screaming equality.

There are plenty of non-combat type jobs in the military that females would be more than capable of doing so I don't know why they aren't required to register either?

I addressed transgender folks in my post. If you would like to read the rules straight from the horses mouth, visit Who Needs to Register

Finally, "boys who identify as women" is an anti-trans dogwhistle in case you didn't know. Better usage would be transgender girls/women but I'm guessing that would be too woke?

RE: Democrats Push Bill To AUTOMATICALLY Add Men To Draft, Prepping For WAR - Michigan Swamp Buck - 06-12-2024

I forgot to mention one thing and I'm surprised no one brought this up. Might this bill and possibly other measures be a prelude to actually, dare I say, a real draft? Is this a forewarning that the current administration is beginning to gear up for a war and they need to ensure that everyone of age is registered?

Let's keep our eyes open and see what else they are doing that relates to direct involvement in world conflicts that may be a sign of impending war.

RE: Democrats Push Bill To AUTOMATICALLY Add Men To Draft, Prepping For WAR - SomeJackleg - 06-12-2024

(06-12-2024, 01:36 AM)Infolurker Wrote:

just men? why aren't the feminnzis raising hell about this. i mean being treated equal should mean being treated equal in all things.

RE: Democrats Push Bill To AUTOMATICALLY Add Men To Draft, Prepping For WAR - Ninurta - 06-12-2024

(06-12-2024, 01:31 PM)Michigan Swamp Buck Wrote: I forgot to mention one thing and I'm surprised no one brought this up. Might this bill and possibly other measures be a prelude to actually, dare I say, a real draft? Is this a forewarning that the current administration is beginning to gear up for a war and they need to ensure that everyone of age is registered?

Let's keep our eyes open and see what else they are doing that relates to direct involvement in world conflicts that may be a sign of impending war.

Prolly not. That is the same thing we thought when they re-started draft registration years ago. Why register us if they weren't intending to get us into yet another war and start drafting us for it? But it never happened.

I got caught in that re-start of draft registration lo those may years ago, which was in the late 1970's or early 1980's - I can't recall now whether it was under Carter or Reagan, although I want to say it was under Carter. It was some time around that transitional period, and the world was just as dangerous and volatile as it is now. I was incensed then, too. How dare they try to force me to fight in their wars, which more often than not had nothing to do with defense of me or mine, or actual "national security" or defense of America? But it was the law, a brand new one, so I marched my happy ass right down to the post office and registered. Nothing ever came of it.

Instead, I pre-empted them and started the individual pursuit of foreign policy my damned self - thataway, I got to pick where and what I fought for, rather than being told where to go and who to shoot. My thinking was that if they did actually start a draft, they'd not be able to get their hands on me if I was already in a war zone somewhere, fighting for what I thought was right rather than being told to fight for what THEY thought was right.

But, at the time, we were all certain they were getting ready to kick off another war somewhere that had nothing to do with actual national defense, and we all sat on tenterhooks because of it. That was during the Iran Hostage Crisis days, and we figured that a universal draft and war in Iran was the next stop. Never happened.

Years later, my son turned 18, too, so he marched his happy ass down to the post office and registered, too. He's never gone to war over it, and is now too old to get caught in any first-round draft. He's still eligible to be drafted, but they'd have to be scraping the bottom of the barrel age-wise to grab him.

I don't agree with any "automatic" registration, either. I thinks folks should have to actually DO something, like march their happy asses down to the post office, to willfully opt-in to registration. "Automatic" registration denies them the privilege of refusing to do so should they choose to. When something has that much potential to change your entire life, you should have to willfully have to do something to opt-in to it, and you should have the option to refuse to do so, and face the consequences of refusal.

Denying young men that option is simply not the American Way. Just another sign that this is not Your Father's America, just another indicator that this is no longer the nation I grew up in.

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RE: Democrats Push Bill To AUTOMATICALLY Add Men To Draft, Prepping For WAR - Ninurta - 06-12-2024

(06-12-2024, 03:34 PM)SomeJackleg Wrote:
(06-12-2024, 01:36 AM)Infolurker Wrote:

just men? why aren't the feminnzis raising hell about this. i mean being treated equal should mean being treated equal in all things.

I know, right? If women are being sent to war, then men are no longer defending the wimmen-folk. If you're not defending your women and children, then just what the hell ARE you fighting for? What's the point of it if not that?

Quite a few nations draft their women too nowadays, and send them off to war whenever a war is thrown and their country is invited. Israel is one of those countries. I reckon the US could follow their lead and send their women off to fight, too. I can tell you first hand that there is nothing on a battlefield so vicious as a woman. Scares the hell out of me just thinking about it. They are vindictive, vicious,and non-stop when it come to war, and they take no prisoners. Far more so than the average man.

On the other hand, I think most American males have not faced that, much less have they come to terms with it. Therefore, in the event of women on the battlefield, i think "chivalry" would kick into the psyches of most American males, and they'd needlessly be trying to "protect" fighting women who really need no extra protection, and that circumstance would cause them to look after themselves less and the wimmens more, and that would cost perfectly usable lives.

So, in reality, No - I don't agree with a draft for anyone, not even feminazis. It's a terrifying thought.

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RE: Democrats Push Bill To AUTOMATICALLY Add Men To Draft, Prepping For WAR - SomeJackleg - 06-12-2024

(06-12-2024, 06:27 PM)Ninurta Wrote: I know, right? If women are being sent to war, then men are no longer defending the wimmen-folk. If you're not defending your women and children, then just what the hell ARE you fighting for? What's the point of it if not that?

Quite a few nations draft their women too nowadays, and send them off to war whenever a war is thrown and their country is invited. Israel is one of those countries. I reckon the US could follow their lead and send their women off to fight, too. I can tell you first hand that there is nothing on a battlefield so vicious as a woman. Scares the hell out of me just thinking about it. They are vindictive, vicious,and non-stop when it come to war, and they take no prisoners. Far more so than the average man.

On the other hand, I think most American males have not faced that, much less have they come to terms with it. Therefore, in the event of women on the battlefield, i think "chivalry" would kick into the psyches of most American males, and they'd needlessly be trying to "protect" fighting women who really need no extra protection, and that circumstance would cause them to look after themselves less and the wimmens more, and that would cost perfectly usable lives.

So, in reality, No - I don't agree with a draft for anyone, not even feminazis. It's a terrifying thought.

the way it is now is just fine with me, sign up for the draft and wait and see if it will be needed. cause there may come a time
when all volunteer ain't gonna cut it. hell russia is a prime example and they have / had a draft when it started.
then if it comes down to it then i think that what ever the requirements for males should apply to females. no raising or lowering them, everybody that's gonna be in the shit has to be able to meet the same standards. those that don't, male and female should kept and placed in admin (beans bandages) logistics, intel, motor t, medical or what have you, away form the shooting to free up those that did meet the requirements to go to the front be them male or female.

and your right, about the chivalry part, but there are some karens that couldn't fight their way out of a wet paper sack especially hand to hand, and those that can handle themselves fairly well might not be up to taking someone twice their size and 75 pounds heavier, it's even hard for a male to do that when their opponent is bigger, heavier, and stronger.

and yeah war is a terrifying thought, but it's best to be prepared and not need them, than not be and not have them ready.

RE: Democrats Push Bill To AUTOMATICALLY Add Men To Draft, Prepping For WAR - ancientlight - 06-15-2024

(06-12-2024, 01:36 AM)Infolurker Wrote: Yeah, I don't want my kids or grandchildren joining either, not unless there are some big changes and I am a 3rd generation (that I know of since I have no idea of my grandfather's father) veteran.

PJ explains it pretty well, do you want to fight for "these people and their sick values?"

But I thought men and women were 'equal' and the same and all, according to 'lefties', so shouldn't young women be included then as well. War is nothing more than the 1% 'elites' real time board game, played out of boredom and lust for more money , power and depopulation. If only everyone in the military would see this (globally) and simply refuse to fight their wars, there would be no more wars (one can dream, the majority are deep asleep).

RE: Democrats Push Bill To AUTOMATICALLY Add Men To Draft, Prepping For WAR - EndtheMadnessNow - 06-15-2024

Getting spicy...

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Fox news

While the social media frenzy hammers on WWIII armageddon coming, I think there is alternative motive by the congress critters that probably won't become obvious for a few years. More surveillance & control over military aged Americans and we all know how certain databases get hacked/compromised and xyz funding gets redirected.

The U.S. Senate Armed Services Committee intends to require women to register for Selective Service as part of the National Defense Authorization Act for FY25, and some other highlights...

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Much more contained in the Fiscal Year 2025 NDAA (29 page PDF)

Memes prediction from 8 years ago:

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Harald Malmgren moved back to DC and now they're laying the groundwork to draft all the zoomers. He did get us out of that whole thermonuclear war pickle one time already.

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Wiki

RE: Democrats Push Bill To AUTOMATICALLY Add Men To Draft, Prepping For WAR - Ninurta - 06-15-2024

Looks like it's time to start teaching the grandkids E&E. Not having my granddaughter get jammed up in a draft, and not having my grandsons get jammed up in a foxhole with some conscripted female that they feel like they need to look out for. That kinda shit gets fine young men killed permanently dead, and I ain't having that for my grandkids.

So, E&E training time it is. Better to die on your feet than live in your knees.

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