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Former CIA Officer Pleads Guilty to Conspiracy to Commit Espionage - EndtheMadnessNow - 05-26-2024 The FBI ran a Truman Show on this Chinese spy for 8 years... Quote:According to court documents, Ma and a blood relative of his (identified as co-conspirator #1 or CC #1) were naturalized U.S. citizens who were born in Hong Kong and Shanghai, respectively. Both Ma and CC #1 worked for the CIA — CC #1 from 1967 until 1983, Ma from 1982 until 1989. As CIA officers, both men held top secret security clearances that granted them access to sensitive and classified CIA information, and signed non-disclosure agreements that required them to maintain the secrecy of that information. Former CIA Officer Pleads Guilty to Conspiracy to Commit Espionage Some people are calling this a wild story. I call it standard spycraft, as in business as usual since time immemorial of intelligence agencies. RE: Former CIA Officer Pleads Guilty to Conspiracy to Commit Espionage - 727Sky - 05-26-2024 CCP/Chinese spies are like Roaches... where there is one there are many.. RE: Former CIA Officer Pleads Guilty to Conspiracy to Commit Espionage - SomeJackleg - 05-27-2024 is it just me, or does anyone else think it's a good idea to let a naturalized immigrant that came from a nation who is not shy about the contempt they have for the U.S. join or have any thing to do with intelligence gathering or access to it in any agency or branch of the federal government. maybe their the decedents three or four generations later could or can if they were born here, but being born there and then moving here , nah. RE: Former CIA Officer Pleads Guilty to Conspiracy to Commit Espionage - Ninurta - 05-27-2024 (05-27-2024, 12:56 AM)SomeJackleg Wrote: is it just me, or does anyone else think it's a good idea to let a naturalized immigrant that came from a nation who is not shy about the contempt they have for the U.S. join or have any thing to do with intelligence gathering or access to it in any agency or branch of the federal government. CIA hires foreign nationals all the time. That's where the bulk of their HUMINT comes from. There's probably more foreigners on the CIA payrolls than there are Americans, just not commonly at the higher levels - those seem to be reserved for treasonous bastards. Well, maybe "treasonous" is too strong of a word. Remember, as a US government agency, CIA does NOT work on behalf of American citizens, they work instead on behalf of the American government, and those two are decidedly different things, often at odds with one another. "They" are not "us", at all. Think about it - if you want inside intel, or if you want a foreign document or conversation translated, there is no better person to enlist than a native or a native speaker. But seriously - "CIA Officer Pleads Guilty to Conspiracy to commit Espionage"? That headline is hilarious - what the hell do they think the CIA DOES? Espionage, that's what they do! The moment you sign on the dotted line, you are "conspiring to commit espionage"! I know for a fact that, during Cold War I, CIA agents would meet with KGB agents in places like Germany and have dinner meetings, trading State Secrets in both directions over bowls of borscht and drinking cognac. It's just the spy way of doing business. . RE: Former CIA Officer Pleads Guilty to Conspiracy to Commit Espionage - SomeJackleg - 05-27-2024 i understand the need for people/ informants of what ever nationality the Fed agency is working in/ on, and getting information that maybe be needed from that area. but to let said people/ informants actually work in a office that has real intel on the who, what, when, and where, and maybe still loyal to their home country no matter how vetted they were, and that they maybe smart enough to get some past the security measures and investigators is about asinine imo. then you have to think about the ones they don't know about, like they did with these two guys. how much damaging intelligence has been passed to who and how badly or what damages it caused. the risk outweighs the benefits to me. |