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The original Weather Boy's - EndtheMadnessNow - 04-19-2024

Vincent Schaefer, Irving Langmuir, and Bernard Vonnegut invent Cloud Seeding.

Wild video — Dubai airport looks like an ocean after massive rain and flooding.

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https://twitter.com/TheInsiderPaper/status/1780268782151143728

"The UAE’s cloud seeding missions have seen tremendous success over the past two decades, positioning it as a leader in the space and one of the first Gulf countries to adopt this technology to increase rainfall and combat water scarcity."

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What Caused The UAE Storms & Torrential Rain?

UAE heavy rains, thunder, and more: Inside the NCM’s cloud seeding missions

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Cloud Wars: Mideast Rivalries Rise Along a New Front

What harm could little new nanotechnology do...

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Twit lightning video

Making ice and snow sometimes involved fire. Bernard Vonnegut’s method, called "rain by fire" created tiny silver iodide particles by burning charcoal and silver.


Name and plot sound familiar? That's because both Kurt and his atmospheric scientist brother worked at GE.

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Quote:Kurt Vonnegut’s science-fiction novel “Cat’s Cradle” revolves around a tricky compound called ice-nine that can turn water solid at room temperature.

Vonnegut, who worked for GE in the 1950s as an in-house journalist, came up with many beautifully outlandish plots for his best-selling books. But ice research was hitting close to his beat as well as his home.

That’s because at the time, another member of his family was employed by GE — his brother, the physicist Bernard Vonnegut. Bernard, together with Nobel laureate Irving Langmuir and atmospheric scientist Vincent Schaefer, formed a crack research team looking for ways to control the weather and even break up hurricanes. In 1946, Schaefer made history when he flew into a cloud in a small plane and set off the world’s first artificial snowfall with a bag of dry ice. He was known as the Snow Man ever since.

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The Weather Men: How Kurt Vonnegut’s Brother Tried To “Abolish The Evil Effects” Of Hurricanes With Science (12-page PDF)


Schaefer-who worked with the Vonnegut brothers & Irving Langmuir at GE, describing the history of Project Cirrus and their weather modification efforts in the Bulletin of the American Meteorological Society, 1968. Once the gravity of their experiments was realized the Army was brought in.

"Since ancient times man has dreamed of manipulating the weather to his advantage. His efforts to this end have ranged from drawing pictographs, lighting ceremonial fires, participating in rain dances and then during the past twenty-one years in directing his attention toward utilizing certain scientific relationships to initiate physical and chemical reactions in the atmosphere."

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"During the period of 1947 to 1952, 225 flights were conducted for the specific purpose of establishing the possibilities as well as limitations of dry ice, silver iodide & water seeding cloud operations." As Project Cirrus continued the GE group received many interested visitors.


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The early history of weather modification


"Army Signal Corps and the Office of Naval Research. Drs. Irving Langmuir and Vincent J. Schaefer, of General Electric, who orig- inated the seeding technique, insist it can make rain. The Army and Navy, interested in military applications, just won't say."

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Popular Science (March 1950)


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M. E. Grenander Department of Special Collections & Archives (99% is not online)


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RE: The original Weather Boy's - EndtheMadnessNow - 04-19-2024

Quote:Storms Above the Desert

Before July 1946, the famous observation that "everybody talks about the weather, but nobody does anything about it" might as well have been a law of physics. Weather modification belonged in the realm of hokum until that July. Then, without warning or expectation, chance favored the prepared mind of a General Electric Laboratories scientist named Vincent Schaefer, and cloud seeding was born.

Although Schaefer's discovery was sudden and serendipitous, much of the research behind it had been going on at GE since 1940. In that year, Schaefer's boss, Dr. Irving Langmuir, was approached by the U. S. Chemical Warfare Service to study the filtration processes used in gas masks. That entailed generating various kinds of smoke and studying their properties on the particle level. Langmuir, a Nobel laureate and, by all accounts, one of GE's resident geniuses, had in Schaefer a hard-working associate who contributed greatly to the research. (Schaefer started his GE career as a machinist; after working with Dr. Langmuir, he came to be a respected scientist in his own right.)

Langmuir and Schaefer continued with this and other aerosol-related war research until 1943, when they began investigating the properties of supercooled clouds as part of a study of precipitation static. This led them into the problem of aircraft icing, which was especially timely; large numbers of aircraft were flying in icing conditions on missions that could not be delayed or aborted because of bad weather. They studied the problem on Mount Washington, New Hampshire, which experiences some of the worst winter weather in the world.


Langmuir Lab, New Mexico

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From Project Cirrus 122 page history technical document: During the war Bernard Vonnegut worked for the Chemical Warfare Service. The members of Project Cirrus had worked on various issues of gas mask efficacy, chemical weapons, precipitation static  and aircraft icing:


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GE Research Lab - History of Project Cirrus (July 1952; 122 page PDF)

Other related weather projects Bernard Vonnegut worked on from this LIST OF PUBLICATIONS

Quote:Schaefer's altered a cloud's heat budget, Vonnegut's altered formative crystal structure – an ingenious property related to a good match in lattice constant between the two types of crystal. (The crystallography of ice later played a role in Kurt Vonnegut's novel Cat's Cradle.) The first attempt to modify natural clouds in the field through “cloud seeding” began during a flight that began in upstate New York on 13 November 1946. Schaefer was able to cause snow to fall near Mount Greylock in western Massachusetts, after he dumped six pounds of dry ice into the target cloud from a plane after a 60-mile easterly chase from the Schenectady County Airport.
Source: "WEATHER MODIFICATION and/or PROJECT CIRRUS and/ or PROJECT STORMFURY and/ or CLOUD SEEDING and/or OPERATION POPEYE and/or PROJECT CUMULUS." Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) by Intellipedia (2017). Black Vault PDF


July 21, 1951: "Doctor Vincent J. Schaefer weather scientist at the General Electric research laboratory... said the fact that seeding operations in the west are more widespread this year than ever before made it imperative that a critical but unbiased study should be made..."

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And in Mid-July 1951:

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Great Flood of 1951


Dr. Langmuir blames Air Force for the disastrous Missouri Valley floods of June 1952...

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GE ad in Boys' Life Nov 1950...

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Vincent J. Schaefer Obit

Ha, beware of those gardeners! Though BIAD is still learning the art of 'Make it Stop!'.


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Bernard Vonnegut, 82, Physicist Who Coaxed Rain From the Sky


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Patent for Process for controlling weather Inventor: Harvey M. Brandau

Patent for Weather modification method Inventor: Robert G. Knollenberg

God device genres cadres Inventor: Svetozar B. Petrovich

Many more:
Devices or methods for influencing weather conditions

Conspiracy disclaimer: Yes, patent registers include dozens of methods for modifying weather conditions, albeit in a specific and localised way. Furthermore, just because there is a patent on a technique does not mean that it works or that it will be realised. Rather, it means that its owner believes it has commercial (or military) potential. That said we all know there has been plenty of Geo-engineering experiments.


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Weather Modification in Southeast Asia


RE: The original Weather Boy's - EndtheMadnessNow - 04-19-2024

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Is Bill Gates still working on a method to block out the sun?


Lastly...

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I've heard after 48 hours, Dubai is back to normal.


FRANKENSKIES (80 min docu)




Made it this far? How about a tune...




Repeat 3 times to change the weather:

"There are no grey men controlling the weather."

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