(04-03-2024, 11:09 PM)Ninurta Wrote: Not me.

I've never been one to jump on the "the end is nigh" bandwagon, and I'm too old to start now. I don't subscribe to any of the millenialist views of scriptures, since all of them were invented for the most part in the 1800's, and none of them particularly reflect anything scriptural - they all appear to be the product peddled by snake-oil salesmen.

All an eclipse means to me is that orbital mechanics are still working the same as they have for billions of years. The Celetstial Dragon eats the sun and then spits it back out on the regular, same as it has ever since there has existed a moon - yet here we all are, still here with feet firmly planted on Terra Firma, same as it has always been.

I am blissfully unaware of any religiously-oriented "signs" that would indicate anything other than a standard eclipse and aftermath, same as always. I do see abundant secular signs that the US is drawing near it's end as  a functioning political entity if something drastic is not done, but those are all secular, and follow the same pattern as the demise of cultures all throughout history. And, like those demises, life will still go on, changed, but still moving, as it always has.

I do not believe God cares enough about the US any more to haul it's fat out of the fire, nor do I believe God cares enough about the US any more to toss it INTO the fire. The same goes for Christianity - when you abandon God as Christianity has done and is doing, then God abandons YOU, leaves you to sort it out with your own devices. Humans are notoriously bad at sorting out their own messes, and the end - of a culture - inevitably follows, eventually to be replaced by another... which, in it's turn and in due time, will also meet it's own end.

That's just the way of things, as history clearly shows.

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(04-03-2024, 10:04 PM)727Sky Wrote: I am not superstitious however I do think that might be a good time for some of the sleeper cells which are now (possibly) in America to start some type of attack/mayhem.

(04-03-2024, 09:21 PM)FlickerOfLight Wrote: But, I gotta say, as far as signs go, they are firing off like fireworks on the fourth of July. There are Signs everywhere.

Which has me thinking...

Quote:Now, I am not saying I'm buying into the theories circulating right now. I'm just saying, that with all of these things coming together the way they are, something big is about to happen. 

Be it, "staged" or real. Seems to be a lot of build up to something. (I'm leaning more towards something being staged in the near future. Looks as if its being perfectly set up for us imo)

Quote:Something feels different with this one though, and I wanted to see if anyone else, who isn't a "the end is nigh" crackpot was feeling it too.

Quote:King James Bible

Luke 21:25-33

25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;
26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.
27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.
28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.

Quote:12 And a great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars. 2 She was pregnant and was crying out in birth pains and the agony of giving birth. 3 And another sign appeared in heaven: behold, a great red dragon, with seven heads and ten horns, and on his heads seven diadems. 4 His tail swept down a third of the stars of heaven and cast them to the earth.

Quote:As Above, So Below? Are Cosmic Forces at Work on Earth? by Gary Lachman

When we think of wars, revolutions, populist uprisings, outbreaks of mass hysteria and other sudden social and political eruptions – even a popstar’s popularity or the latest fashion trend – we usually believe that at bottom there is some logical, rational explanation for them, even if we do not yet possess it. We are confident that we can understand these things through economics, psychology, race relations, religion, or as a reaction to ‘modernity’ or to some other factor that we can reason about, analyse, come to decisions on and take steps to alter and improve.

Although the evidence sadly seems to suggest otherwise, we believe that ultimately we can learn how to control the factors that lead to these explosions. We can, if not eliminate the more catastrophic events like wars, at least minimise the disruptions they cause. In short, we believe we control our fate – or will be able to sometime soon. That is the whole modern project: man applying his intellect and will in order to make a better world, working to control events rather than be controlled by them, and steering history toward progress. We are not there yet, but it is just a matter of time.

But what if there are factors at work in these massive human events that are beyond our control? What if they are not a product of solely rational, calculable forces but are triggered by natural causes, even cosmic ones? What if the power behind these upheavals doesn’t come from the earth below but from up above, in outer space, from the moon, the stars, the planets and the sun?

We know that for a great part of human history that is exactly what many people believed. Until the advent of what we know as science in the early seventeenth century, the belief that the stars ordered our destiny was commonly accepted. Astrology, the art of foreseeing the turn of events on earth by charting the movements of the stars in the heavens, had for millennia guided emperors and kings the world over. In ancient China, India, and the Middle East, in classical Greece and Rome and throughout Europe in the Middle Ages and the Renaissance, the belief that “everything in the… cosmos was inextricably connected to everything else, no matter how great or how small” was as much common knowledge as the supposed Big Bang is today.1

And that this arrangement was hierarchical, with changes in the heavens portending those on earth, was also accepted. It was generally agreed that the earth and everything on it was open to forces coming from beyond and that the wise men of antiquity understood these forces and benefited by them.

All this changed some four centuries ago when what we know as science began to disabuse Western man of such ‘nonsense’ – notwithstanding that millions of people around the globe still accept it.2 The irony here is that some of the most significant figures in the rise of the modern scientific view of the world were well-steeped in the very ‘nonsense’ they were ostensibly freeing us from.

The inauguration of the modern worldview is generally credited to the Polish astronomer Nicolai Copernicus. In On The Revolutions of the Heavenly Spheres (1543) Copernicus argued – reluctantly it seems – that, as we all accept today, the sun did not orbit the earth, but the earth the sun.3 It, not ourselves, was at the centre of things, or at least that of our solar system.

Although Copernicus was a timid agent provocateur – and a mean-spirited one – his work nevertheless sparked a revolution among the heavenly spheres and our earthly one.4 Yet the idea that the sun was at the heart of things did not arrive in Copernicus’ mind fully formed. As the historian Frances Yates argued some years ago – and as has been echoed more recently by others – Copernicus was an attentive reader of the Hermetic texts in which the sun plays a dominant, we might even say central role.5

Western astrology is one of the Hermetic sciences. It has its roots in the teachings of the great sage Hermes Trismegistus, father of magic and science and initiate of the perennial philosophy, collected in the Corpus Hermeticum and other texts, circa 200 CE. In Book XVI of the Corpus Hermeticum, Hermes calls the sun the “craftsman,” Plato’s name for the demi-urge, creator of the universe. In the Asclepius – a Hermetic text not in the Corpus Hermeticum – Hermes speaks of the sun’s “divinity and holiness” and calls it a “second god.”

In the introduction to his work, Copernicus enlists two previous sages in support of his theory, both of whom find places in the Aurea Catena, or Golden Chain of Adepts, through whom the Hermetic wisdom, or prisca theologia, has been handed down through the ages, at least according to the Renaissance Hermeticist Marsilio Ficino. These are Pythagoras (who, we know, heard the ‘music of the spheres’) and his follower, the teacher of Plato, Philolaus. Copernicus even refers directly to the sun as a “visible god,” just as the Asclepius does. The fact that in the Hermetic cosmology the sun’s position differs from its place in the Ptolemaic system that Copernicus was ‘improving’, suggests that it was an important influence on those improvements.

Copernicus wasn’t the only one to help shape our modern universe while retaining a good amount of the ancient one. The seventeenth-century German astronomer Johannes Kepler, who discovered the laws of planetary motion, devoted much time to astrology and forecast more than one dignitary’s fortune, although he was not always happy about it. He was also for a time a guest of Rudolf II, the Hermetic Holy Roman Emperor, a patron and student of astrologers.6 “That the sky does something to man is obvious,” Kepler said, “but what it does specifically remains hidden.”7 Kepler recognised that much astrology was moonshine – at least that was true of his competition. But he also knew that the genuine baby should not be thrown out with the phony bathwater.

Perhaps the biggest surprise is that Sir Isaac Newton, whose view of the cosmos was dominant until the advent of Einstein, wrote more about alchemy – a Hermetic science directly linked to astrology – than he did about gravity. And as astrology is also known as an ‘occult science’ – ‘occult’ meaning ‘unseen’ – then Newton was a Hermeticist even when he did write about gravity, which is also unseen. As with Copernicus, there is much debate today over how much Newton’s Hermetic ideas informed the Principia (1687), the blueprint for the modern, Newtonian view of the cosmos, which, ironically, ousted the earlier, more ‘magical’ one.8

(04-03-2024, 09:21 PM)FlickerOfLight Wrote: Usually it's nothing. Usually these events occur, and after their over, and Jesus hasn't raptured people up yet, then we all just move on to the next end of days catastrophe to make our little predictions. Something feels different with this one though, and I wanted to see if anyone else, who isn't a "the end is nigh" crackpot was feeling it too.

Quote:"A reddish, donut-shaped cloud appeared in the sky and emitted shockwaves, causing large earthquakes throughout California, and causing Lake Tahoe to spill out and flood the Central Valley."

(04-04-2024, 05:39 AM)MrJesterium Wrote:  .

(04-05-2024, 11:22 AM)Ninurta Wrote: Some points to ponder regarding the doom-porn surrounding this eclipse:





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(04-05-2024, 02:03 PM)FlickerOfLight Wrote:

(04-05-2024, 11:22 AM)Ninurta Wrote: Some points to ponder regarding the doom-porn surrounding this eclipse:





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I like his videos. I watch him quite a bit.

So many variables to consider. 

I also just saw that the exact line they thought it was going to take has shifted a bit.
https://www.newsweek.com/solar-eclipse-list-new-areas-see-path-changes-1886852

The one thing I am actually worried about are the cicadas, especially because of my location. I'm expecting a cicada-apocalypse out here in these woods.

Multiple regions across the US declare state of emergency in preparation for solar eclipse
https://israel365news.com/388822/multiple-regions-across-the-us-declare-state-of-emergency-in-preparation-for-solar-eclipse/
Isn't calling for a state of emergency for all these places a bit of overkill? I think they're showing their hand with that. I would not want to live in any of those towns along that path.


I was just on ATS, and I see some earthquakes have already started around the areas.
https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1346589/pg1

(04-04-2024, 06:29 AM)Bally002 Wrote: The enormity of such events nowadays is simply put down to demographics and the expanse of population, coupled with the ability to focus such events across the world now.  Communication plays a large part.

(04-05-2024, 11:22 AM)Ninurta Wrote: Some points to ponder regarding the doom-porn surrounding this eclipse.

Quote:On the 21st of March a boy with come forth, bringing upon a new age. A solemn time. His name will be war and his word shall be violence. He will be born, bringing with him noise from a world that has which been silenced, hidden. Be wary.

Quote:So, if you bring Truth - it is like bringing a sword, which cuts through the lies. But that also disturbs the peace. Peace itself isn't virtuous if it's built on a lie and someone is actually suffering from that lie.

(04-05-2024, 03:37 AM)EndtheMadnessNow Wrote: The Rapture: The belief that Jesus will remove all true Christians from the Earth prior to the end of the world and establishment of his kingdom. The belief is mostly found among American Evangelicals and is part of the larger theological framework called Dispensational Premillennialism. But where did this belief come from?

The Origins of the Rapture & how it became so popular in modern times to our current day, thanks to, yup, you guessed it, the media:

Quote:Matthew 24 :1-3 New American Standard Bible  

Signs of Christ’s Return

24 Jesus left the temple area and was going on His way [a]when His disciples came up to point out the temple buildings to Him. 2 But He responded and said to them, “Do you not see all these things? Truly I say to you, not one stone here will be left upon another, which will not be torn down.”
3 And as He was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately, saying, “Tell us, when will these things happen, and what will be the sign of Your coming, and of the [b]end of the age?”
4 And Jesus answered and said to them, “See to it that no one [c]misleads you. 5 For many will come in My name, saying, ‘I am the [d]Christ,’ and they will [e]mislead many people. 6 And you will be hearing of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not alarmed, for those things must take place, but that is not yet the end. 7 For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be famines and earthquakes in various places. 8 But all these things are merely the beginning of birth pains.
9 “Then they will hand you over to tribulation and kill you, and you will be hated by all nations because of My name. 10 And at that time many will [f]fall away, and they will [g]betray one another and hate one another. 11 And many false prophets will rise up and [h]mislead many people. 12 And because lawlessness is increased, [i]most people’s love will become cold. 13 But the one who endures to the end is the one who will be saved. 14 This gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in the whole [j]world as a testimony to all the nations, and then the end will come.
Perilous Times
15 “Therefore when you see the abomination of desolation which was spoken of through Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place—[k]let the [l]reader understand— 16 then those who are in Judea must flee to the mountains. 17 [m]Whoever is on the [n]housetop must not go down to get things out of his house. 18 And [o]whoever is in the field must not turn back to get his cloak. 19 But woe to those women who are pregnant, and to those who are nursing babies in those days! 20 Moreover, pray that [p]when you flee, it will not be in the winter, or on a Sabbath. 21 For then there will be a great tribulation, such as has not occurred since the beginning of the world until now, nor ever will again. 22 And if those days had not been cut short, no [q]life would have been saved; but for the sake of the [r]elect those days will be cut short. 23 Then if anyone says to you, ‘Behold, here is the [s]Christ,’ or ‘He is over here,’ do not believe him. 24 For false christs and false prophets will arise and will provide great [t]signs and wonders, so as to mislead, if possible, even the [u]elect. 25 Behold, I have told you in advance. 26 So if they say to you, ‘Behold, He is in the wilderness,’ do not go out; or, ‘Behold, He is in the inner rooms,’ do not believe them. 27 For just as the lightning comes from the east and flashes as far as the west, so will the coming of the Son of Man [v]be. 28 Wherever the corpse is, there the [w]vultures will gather.
The Glorious Return
29 “But immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from the sky, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30 And then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky with power and great glory. 31 And He will send forth His angels with a great trumpet blast, and they will gather together His [x]elect from the four winds, from one end of the sky to the other.

Quote:13 But the one who endures to the end is the one who will be saved.