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Defending Democracy: Addressing the Danger of Armed Citizens - Infolurker - 01-22-2024

So how can we do bad shit to them and their families if they are armed?

We need to preserve Democracy by suspending the rights of our citizens and implementing Tyranny? That is "Saving Democracy"?

Johns Hopkins: More Gun Control Needed to Prevent Second Civil War

https://www.ammoland.com/2024/01/johns-hopkins-more-gun-control-needed-to-prevent-second-civil-war/


Quote:recent report by the Center for Gun Violence Solutions, which is part of Johns Hopkins (Michael) Bloomberg School of Public Health, conflates private gun ownership with armed insurrection in order to advocate for expanded gun control.



The 32-page study, which is titled “Defending Democracy: Addressing the Danger of Armed Insurrection,” not only revisits and revises the Jan. 6th protest – even though no protesters were armed and the only casualty was 35-year-old Air Force veteran Ashli Babbitt, who was shot and killed by Capitol Police – it resurrects actual armed insurrections from American history, such as Shays’ Rebellion of 1786, the Whiskey Rebellion of 1791 and the American Civil War.


The three authors, who are all attorneys with a history of paid anti-gun activism, clumsily raise the insurrection boogeyman to push for additional regulations for carrying firearms, tactical training prohibitions, additional gun-free zones, expanded Red Flag laws, and the repeal of state preemption statutes, which has long been a major goal of the gun ban industry. Preemption laws prevent local jurisdictions from enacting their own gun-control regulations, which would result in a patchwork of gun-free zones.


Their authors’ warped message is to be expected, especially when you consider the biased nature of their backgrounds, their sponsors, their sources, and Michael Bloomberg’s school itself. (If you type “gun violence” into the school’s internal search engine, it will yield more than 1,000 results.)


The Center for Gun Violence Solutions admits it uses a “public health approach” to identify gun-control solutions, even though a gun is an inanimate object, not a disease, ailment or disorder. The school further claims it uses “rigorous scientific research to identify a range of innovative solutions to gun violence.” However, the authors’ [i]rigorous scientific research[/i] turned out to be nothing more than false claims gleaned from biased stories from the legacy media and other anti-gun organizations that masquerade as actual news websites.


The authors used stories from CNN, ABC News, CBS News, NBC News, PBS, NPR, VOX, [i]The Los Angeles Times[/i], [i]The Atlantic[/i], [i]The Guardian[/i], [i]The Washington Post,[/i] [i]USA Today[/i], the Associated Press, PolitiFact, Politico, Slate and the Southern Poverty Law Center. They even used stories from two dedicated anti-gun groups, Giffords and The Trace – the propaganda arm of former New York City mayor Michael Bloomberg’s gun-control empire.


[b]Biased authors[/b]
The report was written by Tim Carey, Kelly Roskam, and Joshua Horwitz. Carey is the law and policy advisor at Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health. According to his bio, he is responsible for “Drafting legislation, regulations, legal reports, legislative testimony, fact sheets, and other advocacy materials.” Before moving to Johns Hopkins, Carey was the law and policy staff attorney for the Educational Fund to Stop Gun Violence and the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence.


Roskam is the director of law and policy at Johns Hopkins Center for Gun Violence Solutions. Prior to joining Johns Hopkins, she was the general counsel and legal director for the Educational Fund to Stop Gun Violence and the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence. Roskam’s bio also states she interned at the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence.


Horwitz is the co-director of the Johns Hopkins Center for Gun Violence Solutions. Before joining Johns Hopkins, he too worked at the Educational Fund to Stop Gun Violence and the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence, serving as executive director.


[b]Biased report[/b]
The authors claim their report is both an examination and a warning about the threat that “armed insurrectionism poses to democracy in the United States.”


“The growing presence of firearms in political spaces in the United States endangers public health, safety, and the functioning of democracy,” the report states. “Far from being an outlier, the January 6th insurrection at the United States Capitol was part of a long line of events in which individuals have sought to use political losses to justify violence or threats of violence to disrupt our government and limit civic engagement.”


As stated, the policy recommendations presented by the authors are merely longstanding goals of the gun-ban industry, which would help propel them toward their ultimate goal of total civilian disarmament. The only difference is that now their policy recommendations are presented as necessary to “address the dangers of armed insurrectionism.”


[b]Biased sponsors[/b]
“We would like to thank the Joyce Foundation and the Morningstar Foundation for supplying core support for this report,” the authors wrote.
The Joyce Foundation is firmly committed to gun control. According to their website, the Joyce Foundation seeks to:
  • Advance and implement federal, state, and local policies and practices that reduce easy accessibility of guns to those at risk of violence
  • Support policies to reduce easy accessibility of guns to those at risk of violence
  • Reduce the next generation’s exposure to gun violence through education on the risks of gun ownership
  • Litigate to defend evidence-based gun policies and challenge extreme gun rights policies and practices

The Morningstar Foundation is a 501©(3) nonprofit founded in 1982. In fiscal year 2017, the Morningstar Foundation reported $16,533,591 in revenue and $14,476,618 in expenditures, which included grants to many left-of-center organizations.
Some of the recipients include:
  • Educational Fund to Stop Gun Violence
  • The Southern Poverty Law Center
  • States United to Prevent Gun Violence
  • Violence Policy Center

In 2001, Johns Hopkins University renamed its School of Hygiene and Public Health to the Bloomberg School of Public Health. The change came after Michael Bloomberg donated more than $100 million to the university – the largest cash gift in the school’s 125-year history.


“I’m grateful and proud to have my name linked with the world’s greatest public health school,” Bloomberg said in 2001. “I’ve always supported Johns Hopkins just because it gives me great personal pleasure to be associated with faculty, researchers. and students who do such tremendous work on issues that really matter. This honor is really icing on that cake for me.”



https://www.activistpost.com/2024/01/johns-hopkins-says-gun-control-will-prevent-second-civil-war.html

https://publichealth.jhu.edu/sites/default/files/2023-12/dec-2023-cgvs-defending-democracy.pdf


RE: Defending Democracy: Addressing the Danger of Armed Citizens - Ninurta - 01-23-2024

Hilarious!

This isn't about "armed insurrection". The way one prevents insurrection is keeping the citizenry happy - being responsive to their wants and needs, not by doubling down on taking even more from them when what you have already taken is what is fertilizing the unrest.

So, if it's not really about armed insurrection, then what could it possibly actually be about?

It's about power, and control over others. Pure and simple. It's about running the lives of others, others who are already in a bit of a mood over all of the control and running of their lives that has gone before.

If it were about armed insurrection, they'd do more to mollify the disgruntled, rather than trying to take even more from them and piss them off even more.

What they are failing to take into account is that a dissatisfied people will ALWAYS find the means to revolt, just as people hell-bent on violence and mayhem will always find a means of creating them. Just ask a Londoner how that disarmament thing is working out for preventing violence. Or Chicago. Or Los Angeles. Or New York. Or Philadelphia. Or Washington, DC. Or Baltimore. Or... pick a city. Wherever these policies are emplaced, no one gets any safer. Matter of fact, everyone gets LESS safe, because now they are unarmed in the face of criminal onslaughts.

So, it's not about "armed insurrection" nor "safety and security". But it IS about maintaining power and control... just a power and control that none of the citizens want.

Neither is it about "saving our democracy" - it's about the exact opposite of that, disempowering the very people that any "democracy" would spring from, get it's power from. It's about disenfranchising those very people who would actually BE the "democracy".

It's about creating slaves, serfs, and peons for the ruling elites.

Just like any other feudal system.

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RE: Defending Democracy: Addressing the Danger of Armed Citizens - Ninurta - 01-23-2024

I'm reading the Johns-Hopkins paper, and it pure propaganda. It's obvious, to anyone familiar with propaganda techniques. For example, the number of times I've encountered to neural linguistics programming phrase "our democracy" is truly astounding. Remember, boys and girls, when they say "our democracy", they don't mean our democracy as in yours, mine, and theirs - they only mean "our democracy" in the sense of theirs ONLY, and don't want you to have any say in it. It's a very handy bit of sleight-of-mouth for them.

The Activistpost article had this revealing paragraph in it:

Quote:It seems as though gun control groups are so frustrated at not being able to pass laws through Congress that they’ve started looking to local jurisdictions to pass their legislative priorities. Interestingly, this strategy mirrors the Soros district-attorney campaigns.

I said, after the last national election, that we need to start working at the local level, and lo and behold, they are doing that very thing. If we don't get busy locally, in local politics, they will most certainly outrun us and have their wicked way with the US. Remember, ALL politics start with local politics. They've not forgotten, and neither should we, or we will lose biggly. If we don't start locally, then while we are distracted watching national elections, they will quietly take over our local governments and build upward from there.

What has more impact on your personal daily life - whether or not the US has diplomatic relations with Argentina, or whether your local council suddenly gets taken over by Leftists and outlaws internal combustion engines and forces you to buy a battery-operated death trap?



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RE: Defending Democracy: Addressing the Danger of Armed Citizens - BIAD - 01-23-2024

(01-23-2024, 04:01 AM)Ninurta Wrote: ...Neither is it about "saving our democracy" - it's about the exact opposite of that, disempowering the very people that any "democracy" would spring from, get it's power from. It's about disenfranchising those very people who would actually BE the "democracy".

It's about creating slaves, serfs, and peons for the ruling elites.

Just like any other feudal system...

Yep... to be kept just like the subjects of a certain Crown.
Sure


RE: Defending Democracy: Addressing the Danger of Armed Citizens - Ninurta - 01-24-2024

(01-23-2024, 09:33 AM)BIAD Wrote:
(01-23-2024, 04:01 AM)Ninurta Wrote: ...Neither is it about "saving our democracy" - it's about the exact opposite of that, disempowering the very people that any "democracy" would spring from, get it's power from. It's about disenfranchising those very people who would actually BE the "democracy".

It's about creating slaves, serfs, and peons for the ruling elites.

Just like any other feudal system...

Yep... to be kept just like the subjects of a certain Crown.
Sure

Exactly. The U.S. fought a couple of wars to get out from under that crown, and stay out from under it. So far as I know, neither Canada nor Australia ever quite shook that yoke off - I think they both still have "Crown Courts", for example, and mention the Crown in all their legal documents.

I, for one, am entirely unwilling to return to a monarchy, or any other totalitarian sort of regime. That's where I draw my line in the sand. It doesn't matter to me if the control is being exercised from Windsor, Brussels, or Geneva - if decisions for MY house are not being made IN my house, then I'm not down with it. At all.



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