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Feds drop Marijuana from schedule 1 narcotics down to schedule 3 - Leftiris - 01-13-2024
They're finally admitting it.
Marijuana has medical properties and is useful to treat certain ailments.
We said it back in the 90s as teenager's that we'd see this one day.
Why it took them so long is beyond me (cough big pharma).
Marijuana is now a schedule 3 narcotic.
From "Marijuana Moment"
The U.S. government has released hundreds of pages of documents related to its ongoing review of marijuana’s status under federal law, officially confirming for the first time that health officials have recommended the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) place cannabis in Schedule III of the Controlled Substances Act (CSA).
The 252 pages of documents from the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) explain that cannabis “has a currently accepted medical use in treatment in the United States” and has a “potential for abuse less than the drugs or other substances in Schedules I and II.”
(Duh!)
Federal health officials said their review found that more than 30,000 healthcare professionals “across 43 U.S. jurisdictions are authorized to recommend the medical use of marijuana for more than six million registered patients for at least 15 medical conditions.”
There exists widespread, current experience with medical use of the substance by [health care practitioners] operating in accordance with implemented jurisdiction-authorized programs, where medical use is recognized by entities that regulate the practice of medicine,” HHS said.
Attorney Matt Zorn, to whom the documents were released, sued the government following a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request to obtain the rescheduling memo.
And it shook things up, of course.
RE: Feds drop Marijuana from schedule 1 narcotics down to schedule 3 - Schmoe - 01-13-2024
Christ, about time, though it shouldn't even be schedule 3. I wonder what happens to people who've gone to prison or are in prison for decades over selling weed.
It should be even more legal than alcohol, but treated the same. No driving on it, and there's a time and place for it.
RE: Feds drop Marijuana from schedule 1 narcotics down to schedule 3 - GeauxHomeLittleD - 01-13-2024
Just because it qualifies to be rescheduled and it is recommended by the FDA's Controlled Substances staff does not mean that it will be rescheduled. The gap between "can" and "will" is a wide and bottomless chasm of political horse shit.
RE: Feds drop Marijuana from schedule 1 narcotics down to schedule 3 - DuckforcoveR - 01-14-2024
(01-13-2024, 10:03 PM)GeauxHomeLittleD Wrote: Just because it qualifies to be rescheduled and it is recommended by the FDA's Controlled Substances staff does not mean that it will be rescheduled. The gap between "can" and "will" is a wide and bottomless chasm of political horse shit.
I was reading the article yesterday and it mentioned a bunch of ex- DEA heads and White House Drug Czars all wrote letters vehemently opposing this move. Like WTF!
Too much money to be had by keeping law enforcement militarized, our private prisons full, and our ... oh what the hell . Preaching to the choir here.
RE: Feds drop Marijuana from schedule 1 narcotics down to schedule 3 - Leftiris - 01-14-2024
(01-14-2024, 01:04 PM)DuckforcoveR Wrote:(01-13-2024, 10:03 PM)GeauxHomeLittleD Wrote: Just because it qualifies to be rescheduled and it is recommended by the FDA's Controlled Substances staff does not mean that it will be rescheduled. The gap between "can" and "will" is a wide and bottomless chasm of political horse shit.
I was reading the article yesterday and it mentioned a bunch of ex- DEA heads and White House Drug Czars all wrote letters vehemently opposing this move. Like WTF!
Too much money to be had by keeping law enforcement militarized, our private prisons full, and our ... oh what the hell . Preaching to the choir here.
I'm surprised at the simple fact that they've finally admitting to its medicinal qualitieS.
We've come a long way from the "reefer madness" propaganda back in the day.
Big pharma, and all its stockholders stand to lose some money once people figure out how much that herbal medicine can help.
I've got a torn rotator cuff that hurts like hell every night. I can barely sleep because of that shoulder.
I rub some of my thc/cbd cream on it------the pain is immediately gone. No pain pills. No addiction. Just relief...
RE: Feds drop Marijuana from schedule 1 narcotics down to schedule 3 - Ninurta - 01-14-2024
Schedule I, Schedule III... I don't care. It's still on a CSA Schedule, still a "controlled substance", and still under government control for a weed that grows wild. Seems kinda wrong, any way you cut it. Still just one set of folks trying to dictate how another set of folks lives and takes care of themselves.
With that said, they still haven't moved it from I to III, just a batch of papers claiming they were talking about moving it. Only reason tobacco and alcohol aren't on Schedule I is that the ATF (and lately the FDA, who is stomping all over the ATF's toes with their new "rules" regarding what is and isn't "tobacco") would suddenly have serious deficiencies in their reasons to exist.
Fuck 'em. Run your own life as you see fit, and if they don't like it, they can just stay the hell on their side of the fence, remain in their own damned lane!
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RE: Feds drop Marijuana from schedule 1 narcotics down to schedule 3 - Leftiris - 01-14-2024
(01-14-2024, 05:22 PM)Ninurta Wrote: Schedule I, Schedule III... I don't care. It's still on a CSA Schedule, still a "controlled substance", and still under government control for a weed that grows wild. Seems kinda wrong, any way you cut it. Still just one set of folks trying to dictate how another set of folks lives and takes care of themselves.
With that said, they still haven't moved it from I to III, just a batch of papers claiming they were talking about moving it. Only reason tobacco and alcohol aren't on Schedule I is that the ATF (and lately the FDA, who is stomping all over the ATF's toes with their new "rules" regarding what is and isn't "tobacco") would suddenly have serious deficiencies in their reasons to exist.
Fuck 'em. Run your own life as you see fit, and if they don't like it, they can just stay the hell on their side of the fence, remain in their own damned lane!
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Fire it up
Puff puff give
Pass it to the left
RE: Feds drop Marijuana from schedule 1 narcotics down to schedule 3 - putnam6 - 02-17-2026
So glad to see an active cannabis forum...
Just saw where KOI, my gummy connection, is going OOB solely because of Cali's MJ lobby keeps pushing laws to protect themselves.
Between those legal gummies and a little bit of hemp flower helped my chronic pain in a very restrictive MJ state.
We need all encompassing legalization, but seeing some states moving to restrictive grow your own
RE: Feds drop Marijuana from schedule 1 narcotics down to schedule 3 - David64 - 02-18-2026
(02-17-2026, 11:46 PM)putnam6 Wrote: So glad to see an active cannabis forum...
Just saw where KOI, my gummy connection, is going OOB solely because of Cali's MJ lobby keeps pushing laws to protect themselves.
Between those legal gummies and a little bit of hemp flower helped my chronic pain in a very restrictive MJ state.
We need all encompassing legalization, but seeing some states moving to restrictive grow your own
Funny that you can find a bottle of whiskey on every street corner, but something that actually helps is demonized and restricted. Alcohol destroys your body, weed just gives you the munchies. You'd think Little Debbie would be all for legalizing it.
RE: Feds drop Marijuana from schedule 1 narcotics down to schedule 3 - putnam6 - 02-18-2026
(02-18-2026, 12:04 AM)David64 Wrote:(02-17-2026, 11:46 PM)putnam6 Wrote: So glad to see an active cannabis forum...Funny that you can find a bottle of whiskey on every street corner, but something that actually helps is demonized and restricted. Alcohol destroys your body, weed just gives you the munchies. You'd think Little Debbie would be all for legalizing it.
Just saw where KOI, my gummy connection, is going OOB solely because of Cali's MJ lobby keeps pushing laws to protect themselves.
Between those legal gummies and a little bit of hemp flower helped my chronic pain in a very restrictive MJ state.
We need all encompassing legalization, but seeing some states moving to restrictive grow your own
Makes no sense, it should be legal for nausea alone.
RE: Feds drop Marijuana from schedule 1 narcotics down to schedule 3 - Ninurta - 02-18-2026
(02-18-2026, 12:04 AM)David64 Wrote: Funny that you can find a bottle of whiskey on every street corner, but something that actually helps is demonized and restricted. Alcohol destroys your body, weed just gives you the munchies. You'd think Little Debbie would be all for legalizing it.
I beg to differ. I both grow weed and drink liquor. I said I GROW weed. I never use the stuff. Can't, for medical reasons. See, weed speeds your heart up, and I'm on medicine to slow mine down. It would be counter-productive. The last time I smoked weed, it threw me into tachycardia and damn near killed me. Heart was racing for about 4 hours. Just about wore it out. I'm still not convinced that isn't what caused my a-fib.
The problem with weed these days is that it's way too damned stout. This ain't your grandpa's (or mine) weed any more. Weed used to run 2% to 4% THC back in the day, and that was just fine. Folks got to genetically tinkering with it, and now it runs 15% to upwards of 40% THC. That ain't even sane.
I grow it because I can, not because I smoke it. There ain't much I can do with it. I can't sell what I grow, 'coz that ain't allowed. I can't carry an ounce or more in public, 'cause that ain't allowed, either. I can't smoke it - see above. About all I can do is give it away for free to folks that need it for pain and such, so that's what I do with it. I've got two coffee jars of it left sitting here cured, just waiting for the giveaways. You KNOW they'll eventually make that illegal, too, if they ever get their shit together and get dispensaries going in this state. My "give away" might cut into some dispensary's budget, and therefore some politicians cut of the action... so they are bound to eventually make giving it away for free illegal, too.
Weed legalization is a racket... but you KNOW they were going to figure out how to racketize it, right? They ain't happy unless they are making bank off of someone else's back, off of someone else's misery.
In Virginia, in 2020, Democrats held the keys to all the power, so they tried to make all firearms illegal... but failed miserably. So, as a consolation prize, in 2021 they made weed legal. Kinda sorta. I feel sure it was more to piss off Republicans than it was to help anyone.
What they did was to make recreational use legal, and growing your own - up to 4 plants, that is - legal. What they DIDN'T do was create any avenues to purchase it legally for recreational use. Selling and buying remained illegal, and still do. So you can smoke it - if you can wrangle some.
They made growing it legal, up to a very limited point, but made NO provision for legally buying any seed to grow it. Nor is there any legal way to buy any clones to bypass the seed illegalities. See how that works? They'll set you up by telling you that you can grow your own, then come down on you when you do with a "where'd ya git them seeds, boy?" I bypassed that bullshit by using some bagseed. Didn't buy any seeds, so I didn't break the law, nor did I buy the bags the seed came from... so I didn't break that law, either. Free and clear.
This year, I ended up with just short of 2000 seeds off my plants. Since I can only grow 4 plants out of that seed, that leaves me with a lot of extra seeds. I can't sell those, either. So, I give 'em away, here and there... but only within the state. If they cross state lines, then THAT is illegal, too, and invites Federal involvement. I ain't about that, I tell ya!
So anyhow, the Democrats "legalized" weed, but left a hell of a mess of the law. it's like walking through a minefield trying to navigate it. Then they lost their asses in the next elections, and the Republicans took over. of course they weren't about to clean up that mess that the Democrats left, so that's where it sat for the next 4 years.
Then, this past election, the Democrats took the field again with a clean sweep. You'd think with that much power, they'd have a care to fix their own fuckups from before, right?
Wrong.
After promising to fix "affordability" here, and campaigning on "law and order", they came right out of the gates with nothing but more, new, novel, and oppressive taxes, and of course the perennial fight to disarm everyone in the state while at the same time setting various and sundry violent criminals loose on a defenseless population. Instead of fixing their cannabis fuckups, they decided to entirely ignore the mess they left last time, and concentrating on creating entirely new and exciting fuckups.
Instead of the promised "law and order", they decided to set violent criminals loose on their defenseless population (which they are busy disarming to insure they are defenseless... so's their pet criminals don't get injured criminalin', I reckon). Instead of addressing "affordability", they created more burdensome taxes to make any chance of affordability a thing of the past.
AND they entirely neglected to make weed really and truly legal. Not a peep from them about that.
Bastards. Folks need not wonder why I hate politicians, nor why I don't shrink back from calling them all exactly what they are - a bunch of goddamned useless lyin' bastards..
.
RE: Feds drop Marijuana from schedule 1 narcotics down to schedule 3 - putnam6 - 02-19-2026
(02-18-2026, 02:28 AM)Ninurta Wrote:(02-18-2026, 12:04 AM)David64 Wrote: Funny that you can find a bottle of whiskey on every street corner, but something that actually helps is demonized and restricted. Alcohol destroys your body, weed just gives you the munchies. You'd think Little Debbie would be all for legalizing it.
I beg to differ. I both grow weed and drink liquor. I said I GROW weed. I never use the stuff. Can't, for medical reasons. See, weed speeds your heart up, and I'm on medicine to slow mine down. It would be counter-productive. The last time I smoked weed, it threw me into tachycardia and damn near killed me. Heart was racing for about 4 hours. Just about wore it out. I'm still not convinced that isn't what caused my a-fib.
The problem with weed these days is that it's way too damned stout. This ain't your grandpa's (or mine) weed any more. Weed used to run 2% to 4% THC back in the day, and that was just fine. Folks got to genetically tinkering with it, and now it runs 15% to upwards of 40% THC. That ain't even sane.
I grow it because I can, not because I smoke it. There ain't much I can do with it. I can't sell what I grow, 'coz that ain't allowed. I can't carry an ounce or more in public, 'cause that ain't allowed, either. I can't smoke it - see above. About all I can do is give it away for free to folks that need it for pain and such, so that's what I do with it. I've got two coffee jars of it left sitting here cured, just waiting for the giveaways. You KNOW they'll eventually make that illegal, too, if they ever get their shit together and get dispensaries going in this state. My "give away" might cut into some dispensary's budget, and therefore some politicians cut of the action... so they are bound to eventually make giving it away for free illegal, too.
Weed legalization is a racket... but you KNOW they were going to figure out how to racketize it, right? They ain't happy unless they are making bank off of someone else's back, off of someone else's misery.
In Virginia, in 2020, Democrats held the keys to all the power, so they tried to make all firearms illegal... but failed miserably. So, as a consolation prize, in 2021 they made weed legal. Kinda sorta. I feel sure it was more to piss off Republicans than it was to help anyone.
What they did was to make recreational use legal, and growing your own - up to 4 plants, that is - legal. What they DIDN'T do was create any avenues to purchase it legally for recreational use. Selling and buying remained illegal, and still do. So you can smoke it - if you can wrangle some.
They made growing it legal, up to a very limited point, but made NO provision for legally buying any seed to grow it. Nor is there any legal way to buy any clones to bypass the seed illegalities. See how that works? They'll set you up by telling you that you can grow your own, then come down on you when you do with a "where'd ya git them seeds, boy?" I bypassed that bullshit by using some bagseed. Didn't buy any seeds, so I didn't break the law, nor did I buy the bags the seed came from... so I didn't break that law, either. Free and clear.
This year, I ended up with just short of 2000 seeds off my plants. Since I can only grow 4 plants out of that seed, that leaves me with a lot of extra seeds. I can't sell those, either. So, I give 'em away, here and there... but only within the state. If they cross state lines, then THAT is illegal, too, and invites Federal involvement. I ain't about that, I tell ya!
So anyhow, the Democrats "legalized" weed, but left a hell of a mess of the law. it's like walking through a minefield trying to navigate it. Then they lost their asses in the next elections, and the Republicans took over. of course they weren't about to clean up that mess that the Democrats left, so that's where it sat for the next 4 years.
Then, this past election, the Democrats took the field again with a clean sweep. You'd think with that much power, they'd have a care to fix their own fuckups from before, right?
Wrong.
After promising to fix "affordability" here, and campaigning on "law and order", they came right out of the gates with nothing but more, new, novel, and oppressive taxes, and of course the perennial fight to disarm everyone in the state while at the same time setting various and sundry violent criminals loose on a defenseless population. Instead of fixing their cannabis fuckups, they decided to entirely ignore the mess they left last time, and concentrating on creating entirely new and exciting fuckups.
Instead of the promised "law and order", they decided to set violent criminals loose on their defenseless population (which they are busy disarming to insure they are defenseless... so's their pet criminals don't get injured criminalin', I reckon). Instead of addressing "affordability", they created more burdensome taxes to make any chance of affordability a thing of the past.
AND they entirely neglected to make weed really and truly legal. Not a peep from them about that.
Bastards. Folks need not wonder why I hate politicians, nor why I don't shrink back from calling them all exactly what they are - a bunch of goddamned useless lyin' bastards..
.
Glad to have a board to discuss this topic.
I microdose hemp/CBD for the chronic pain in my ankle, thats hemp with less than.03%THC, not looking to get "zooted" or "stoned to bone." Ive have to function 24/7
All the states around me have less restrictive cannabis laws, MJ, and hemp.
Right now, all I can legally use is less than .03% THC hemp-derived products
In my state, growing HEMP or MJ is illegal, MJ all forms are illegal except doctor-prescribed low-dose THC oils. One can order hemp flower and other hemp CBD products from out of state for now, till the new law kicks in.
MJ is decriminalized in certain areas.
In my state, the 4 alcohol and beer bottler companies fight against both hemp and MJ, so do the evangelicals.
Those lobbies keep my state red, Ill take the chronic pain for a republican state every day and twice on Sundays
Medical MJ and bottlers fight the hemp-derived product.
IF the public fights for all access, the politicians will still bow to the most powerful lobby
Farmers would love to grow industrial hemp, but for now, only a few do because of costs and strict regulations.
Even federal marijuana legalization could kill hemp access, there needs to be an all-encompassing cannabis legalization, but thats not happening.
This is how state politicians get thier campaigns funded, till those palms get well greased. I expect to have less access to hemp and marijuana than before
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RE: Feds drop Marijuana from schedule 1 narcotics down to schedule 3 - Minstrel - 02-19-2026
One of the more underrated benefits of MJ is short-term memory loss.
When they ask "Have you had any marijuana, tonight?", you can honestly say "I don't remember."
Off topic?
RE: Feds drop Marijuana from schedule 1 narcotics down to schedule 3 - putnam6 - 02-20-2026
(02-19-2026, 11:34 PM)Minstrel Wrote: One of the more underrated benefits of MJ is short-term memory loss.
When they ask "Have you had any marijuana, tonight?", you can honestly say "I don't remember."
Off topic?
Not to be that guy but.... Actually
Short term memory loss would depend on the herbal strain one is currently partaking in.
I used to believe it was preposterous myself, but there's a noticeable difference in hemp strains; there are many that improve focus and concentration.
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https://marijuanas.org/marijuana-strains-for-mental-clarity/