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New Dutch PM's Message for Muslims | Geert Wilders is Anti-Islam, Anti-EU and Anti-Im - 727Sky - 12-07-2023
Looks like someone has figured it out ?
RE: New Dutch PM's Message for Muslims | Geert Wilders is Anti-Islam, Anti-EU and Anti-Im - Infolurker - 12-08-2023
Where is the flaw in his stance?
Got to be careful about houses of worship as that will be expanded beyond foreign funded mosques.
RE: New Dutch PM's Message for Muslims | Geert Wilders is Anti-Islam, Anti-EU and Anti-Im - Ninurta - 12-08-2023
(12-08-2023, 12:58 AM)Infolurker Wrote: Where is the flaw in his stance?
Got to be careful about houses of worship as that will be expanded beyond foreign funded mosques.
He did specify "Islamic Institutions" rather than "houses of worship". Besides, since when are mosques houses of worship? Looks to me more like they are hubs of radicalization and weapons storage caches...
In all honesty, Islam would be protected by freedom of religion laws IF it were a religion. It's not. It's an entire religio-social-economic-legal system, one which seeks to rule over all other systems, everywhere. "Until all the earth is for allah only". It does not seek to expand or maintain a religion, It does, and always has, sought to expand dominion over other folks, same as communism does. It's not a religion so much as it is a slavery system - muslims call themselves "slaves of allah", and the rest of us are meant to be slaves to muslims. The only free folk are allah itself and anyone claiming to be a "prophet" of allah. They can pretty much do as they please, and make up new rules as they go along, but everyone else is a "slave" of one sort or another.
Religious freedoms, like all freedoms, extend only so far. The religious freedom of one cannot abrogate the freedoms of another - "your right to swing your fist ends where my nose begins":. We do not allow human sacrifice any more, for example, because it steals the rights of the sacrificial victim to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Likewise with any other religious tenet that intrudes on the rights of others - we do not have to recognize such religious institutions as "rightful", because they are not.
The sacrifice of Islam is all of the rest of humanity. It needs to be eliminated.
* "allah" with a small "a", because allah is not a god. allah is just a desert djinn, an evil spirit, one among 360 once worshiped at the Ka'aba, with pretensions to godhood as a moon god. Ever asked yourself why the symbol of Islam is a crescent moon?
That's why.
Islam is not an "Abrahamic religion", despite what people would have us believe. To be an Abrahamic religion, it would have to follow the other Abrahamic religions, and it does not. Simply appropriating the name of another religion's religious figures, but then changing their entire character, does not constitute "following" those religions. We could not, for example, simply rename Odin to Osiris, and then claim that pagan Nordic religions are really pagan "Egyptian" religions.
The Islamic/ Qur'anic Ibrahim (Abraham), Noe (Noah), Musa (Moses), Jibreel (Gabriel), and Isa (Jesus) are not at all like their Abrahamic counterparts. They may bear similar names, but they all have a grossly different character.
The Bible, which predates the Qur'an, specifies that God does not change - God is the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow, without changing. allah of Islam is either a radically changed God, or not a god at all but rather just a desert djinn. Therefore, Islam is NOT an Abrahamic faith.
Islam is just a pagan desert religion, worshipful of demons and djinn, trying to sneak under the Abrahamic radar with just a few cosmetic name changes, appropriations of the religions of others. Since it seeks to enslave the "others" whose God and religious figures it has attempted to steal, there is no reason to let it stand. It is a Usurper "religion". Since it seeks to eliminate the rights of those same "others", as well as everyone else on earth, there is no particular reason to recognize Islam's religious "rights".
Geert Wilders is right - send that usurper religion packing back into the deserts it sneaked out of. Let them worship their demons among the sands, only, as they originally did. I see no reason to give them any rights over the natives of the countries they have invaded. You do that for conquerors, not "religious brothers".
For grins and giggles, look up the actual history of Manat, al-Uzzah, and Allat sometime to find where Islam REALLY came from. That's the history they try to hide.
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RE: New Dutch PM's Message for Muslims | Geert Wilders is Anti-Islam, Anti-EU and Anti-Im - Infolurker - 12-09-2023
I totally get it and agree.
They may use this to go after Christian churches next, you know, the ones who say sinning is bad and all that "hate speech".
RE: New Dutch PM's Message for Muslims | Geert Wilders is Anti-Islam, Anti-EU and Anti-Im - Ninurta - 12-09-2023
(12-09-2023, 12:50 AM)Infolurker Wrote: I totally get it and agree.
They may use this to go after Christian churches next, you know, the ones who say sinning is bad and all that "hate speech".
I reckon it's possible. They tried going after Christians once before, and Christians had a hard run of it for a while, but in the end, they won...
... and took over the very Roman Empire that tried to eradicate them.
And they fired nary a shot to get that done. Remarkable!
Going after the Christians is probably not the best idea they could have, but if they just have to...
It's almost like the Christians have a God on their side or something!
The muslims can't say that. All of the "victories" they've encountered so far have been against "Christians" that have lost their God and become secularized. You know, kinda like the Amalekites and such, Philistines, etc. got to do to Israelites when they gave up THEIR God and got too secularized.
The moral of the story is if you trust in your God and hold fast, you have nothing to fear from mere mortals.
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RE: New Dutch PM's Message for Muslims | Geert Wilders is Anti-Islam, Anti-EU and Anti-Im - DaphneApollo - 12-10-2023
I hope it doesn’t end with his leadership, other leaders need to step up and stop this nonsense in the East and West.
Amen, somebody finally got elected to start the pushback. God be with him. Jesus and the Holy Spirit.