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but I think that's part of what you have
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been able to bring to the table over the
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last like uh several years really
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through the whole Tucker Carlson tonight
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run and now you're your show on on
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Twitter um or X excuse me it's gonna
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take me years to get call we call it X
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Dave yes I'm sorry I didn't mean to I
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messed up still not my
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favorite it's I I like a lot of what
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Elon Musk has done changing it to X was
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the second worst besides his trip to
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Israel pronouncing that correctly or is
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it or is it is it more chines I mean
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like what is how do you pronounce it I
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was counting on Twitter to be the one
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non-chinese social media company so I
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hope it's not I hope that's not uh
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that's not it but there was what one of
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the things you do on your show that I
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really like I try to do this too um
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because I do a show about the news you
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know and one of the things I try to do
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as best as possible which is challenging
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in today's environment is to zoom out as
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much as you can because it's like every
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day there's a new crazy thing but then
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one day there's a crazy thing and you go
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like no wait this is not just a crazy
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thing this is one of the biggest stories
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in American history like this isn't just
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some crazy thing this is like like you
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know like the threel agencies tried to
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frame the sitting president for treason
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that's a really big deal that's up there
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with like top five stories in American
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history right um but I gotta say I think
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one of them has got to be you and this
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show you're doing on X and forget look I
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love it I never miss an episode of it
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but regardless of that the fact is that
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the biggest show host in cable news gets
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fired and then has to move online and is
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bigger by orders of magnitude like
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that's a really big deal that just
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represents it's a better medium I mean
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we used to say in TV like I I was on a
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couple different or several different uh
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channels cable channels broadcast
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channels and like my ratings would vary
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dramatic Ally and the show you know
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maybe better worse depending but like
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over 25 years but it was it's the venue
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matters a lot and it just turns out that
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people use social media and far fewer
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subscribed to cable news and consume
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their information sitting in their
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living room like that it was just so
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obvious and I'm such a late adapter
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because I'm not into Tech at all you
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know we don't have a TV in my house you
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know we're not tech people at all we're
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book readers so I didn't I only sensed
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it but as soon as you make it easy for
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people to consume free effectively we've
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got a subscription service launching but
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but basically you know the meat of it is
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a lot of it is free and always will be
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um your viewership goes up and also I
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think you know it's pretty obvious it's
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certainly obvious to you and your entire
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audience but like media are controlled
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that's the whole point and as soon as
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people sense you're not controlled or
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less controlled or you're out of
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control they they want to watch right I
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mean why wouldn't they yeah no
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absolutely but it does like what it
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represents is right like a real losing
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of that control and for the first time
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at least in my lifetime that there isn't
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kind of this Monopoly on the flow of
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information and of course Elon Musk
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buying Twitter is a big part of that um
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and he's GNA be dealing with is already
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dealing with tremendous forces trying to
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you know uh interfere with that but at
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least for now does seem like yeah there
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um the between the two guys I usually
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point to are you and Joe Rogan but
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between YouTube guys and then a whole
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bunch of other guys like on smaller
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levels but like a a lot of them it's
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like yeah the there's a whole new
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generation of people who are consuming
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their information that is not controlled
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that doesn't mean it's correct all of
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the time I'm sure we all make our
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mistakes but it's not controlled by the
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CIA you know like there is a difference
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exactly right and and actually
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I know you know this because we've
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talked about it offline but if if you
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were to say out loud in specific terms
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the degree of control that that specific
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agency and there are many other agencies
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but that one specifically CIA had over
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our public conversation and over our
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politics you'd sound like a complete
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freaking wacko like you would people
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wouldn't even believe you and yet it
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would be absolutely true so I guess what
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I'm saying is we understate the power
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and I'm this is I'm speaking this from
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knowledge after 35 years in Washington
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knowing a lot of people work there and
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knowing a lot about it we understate the
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power of this Intel agency with an
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unknown budget unknown staff unknown
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reach unknown Mission like it's
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completely out of control like much more
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than people understand it's completely
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out of control and it's also completely
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corrupt I was telling my wife at dinner
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actually two nights ago um with a bunch
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of relatives sitting there we were
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thinking of four separate real estate
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transactions that we were personally
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partti to or on the same straight or
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next door to or whatever of CIA officers
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current CIA officers who are paying
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millions of dollars for a very expensive
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real estate and my wife's like oh what
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about that one we sold our house once to
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a CI officer for all this money it's
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like and the question was like where do
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they get all this money you're a federal
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employee where' you get $4 million or12
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million you know what I mean like
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leaving aside the assassinations and the
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the subversion of democracy just the
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pure Financial Corruption of the CIA is
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like a mindblowing story that the
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average person knows nothing about true
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yeah and and look and this is one of the
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things that Trump and and in many ways
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just to be clear here I think Trump is
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almost like this like a Inspector Gadget
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type political figure where you know
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like he's just kind of walking around
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and things just all fall into place but
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one of the things that Trump kind of
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revealed even to people like myself who
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probably like if I was taking a written
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test on this would have gotten the
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answer right before Trump but to
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actually witness it and not just on like
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an intellectual level but to watch it
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happening is that you're like they do
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not work for the president I mean this
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is not so that idea and it's almost as
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if if we're talking about the federal
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government of the United States of
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America and we're still discussing it as
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if there are these three co-equal
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branches of government and the people
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elect the president and they elect the
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House of Representatives and they you're
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like oh that's not that's not really the
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government we under that in fact there's
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these whole other shadowy forces that
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are completely untied to that they don't
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they oversee the politicians much more
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than the politicians oversee them and
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that that's really who's kind of in
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charge and then it's like okay we're
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talking about a whole different thing I
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mean I could I could bore you for hours
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but I would you're absolutely 100% right
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it makes a mockery of democracy um and
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the Defenders of democracy are the ones
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propping it up it's it's also grotesque
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but I would just say one thing and that
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is that the I know this for a fact that
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the sitting president of the United
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States there have been of course 40 odd
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um since the second world war have
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routinely been left out of briefings on
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the two the two big programs that I know
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about one is the UFO stuff where there's
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a lot of evidence US government has had
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Direct contact maybe even negotiations
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uh with whatever these forces are that's
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real I think um but I know for a fact
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that presidents have not been briefed on
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that one two is the Kennedy
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assassination in which the CIA was
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implicated not the whole CIA but the
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operations directorate under Angleton of
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yeah had a role in that that's just true
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and um and I know for again for a fact
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that there have been a number of
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presidents Richard Nixon famously on
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tape asked the CIA director about that
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and he said I you know I think the CIA
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was involved in killing John
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quote and they did not respond they did
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not brief him and instead they set in
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motion the wheels of Water Gate which
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had him out of office in less than a
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year so like that's not a democracy
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that's an oligarchy by unelected spies
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and there's nothing scarier than that
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and by the way last thing I'll say if
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everyone talks about you know the famous
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Eisenhower retirement speech where in
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1960 where he talks about the
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military-industrial conflicts that's
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where that phrase comes from that famous
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speech last year I was on a freaking
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treadmill trying to lose weight
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Perpetual uh mission of mine and I'm
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bored so I I was like I'm G to find that
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on YouTube I recommend to your listeners
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watch that speech I think it's only like
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30 minutes long Eisenhower wrote it
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himself two things you'll notice one
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it's written at the level of like
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postgraduate like the average American
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had such a higher IQ it was so much more
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literate in 1960 than now people would
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even understand what he was saying a B
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Eisenhower was like deeply distressed by
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the power of the Pentagon and the CIA
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and said so in public and he's like
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their budgets are too big thanks to the
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second world war and this is going to
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end democracy he said that on television
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in front of everybody it's to totally
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worth watching and he was right and
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hands the country over to John F Kennedy
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I mean this is like for people you know
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like this is the next president that
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comes right in on the heels of that
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right the and and then also you know
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this is something I remember you talking
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about this when you covered it because
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it's so like I I was a kid I'm born in
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1983 it's like I grew up in the 80s and
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the 90s and at that point the only thing
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you knew about Richard Nixon was like
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yeah he was the most corrupt president
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and it's like this tiny little detail
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that's left out that he was the most
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popular president he was the he he won
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49 states he won by the biggest margin
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ever 16 million votes in 1972 biggest
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margin ever recorded and he's gone
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shortly after that and they control the
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narrative so much that the narrative
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almost becomes like yeah you know the
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people really didn't like him they
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really didn't like him so much we had to
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get him out of there well what's so
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crazy is that he was undone by this guy
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famously called Bob Woodward who's still
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around still writing books still getting
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the participation of all of our leaders
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who was Bob Woodward in 1973 was he a
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famous journalist he got the biggest
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story in the world was handed to him by
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Ben Bradley the edit of the Washington
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Post no he was not a journalist he was a
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naval Intel officer who'd been detailed
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to the White House the Nixon White House
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that's a fact look it up and yet somehow
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he winds up with this story that topples
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a president and his main source who was
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the main source that was Mark felt the
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deputy director of the FBI who ran the
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coel program yeah what this is not
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conspiracy stuff this is like on
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Wikipedia yeah never says it it's crazy
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and by the way who replaced Nixon Gerald
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Ford unelected who happened to be on the
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what oh the Warren Commission how Nixon
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pick Ford well because they took out his
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VP speo agu on a tax charge and then
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Carl Albert who was the Democratic
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leader in the house said you are picking
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Gerald Ford and he
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did it it really is like it's all it's
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out of a movie man and it does like I
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get where it does sound like if people
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don't follow this stuff it sounds like
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nutty conspiracy talk and it is
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conspiracy talk it is it is a conspiracy
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it's just not a theory it's just like no
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this is all like documented and Bob
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Woodward I mean like I know Bob Woodward
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pretty well I lived right down the
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street from Bob Woodward in Georgetown
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as a kid and and it's like I'm not
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attacking you know he's perfectly nice
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guy and he's not stupid actually but the
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idea that you know oh he's just a shoe
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leather journalist no he was a naval
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Intel officer who somehow wind up as
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like his first one of his very first
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stories of The Washington Post
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is Watergate like that's just so
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obviously that
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like person say that not one person why
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right right and uh and it's such an
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interesting story that you're like it
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kind of goes to show you oh that's why
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all like you would want to talk about
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this if you were just trying to get
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eyeballs on your show um but no one will
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touch it U at least in the corporate
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media nobody will touch it though it's
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so in look I mean I I'm 54 and my kids
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are grown so I don't really care but
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like I just think
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if you're in this business and you're
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not curious the question is why are you
12:03
in this business like the whole point is
12:05
curiosity like wow tell me how that
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happened that's an amazing story like
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that's that's why I I do this that's why
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I got into this in the first place no
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one is interested in anything it's like
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bizarre it's like shut up everything you
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heard in fourth grade is true shut up
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racist do you do you you remember um I'm
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blanking on her name maybe you remember
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it but it was the ABC reporter um who
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she had the the hot mic tape that leaked
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where she was talking about how she had
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the Epstein story broke years before and
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they told her to squash it because it
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might mess up the relationship with the
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royal family yeah what what happened to
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her do you know I don't I don't I'm not
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sure where she is but
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that Rob it was Amy robach who I worked
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with at at another you know the cable
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arm of NBC News years ago I didn't know
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her very well which is totally nice she
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says that on the air and I'm not a
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conspiracy not I've just you know
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everything I know I read in the Daily
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Mail I'm just I'm just telling you da
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and then like two or three years later
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she gets bounced out of her job at ABC
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because she had an affair now I'm not
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endorsing Affairs I'm not having one I'm
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against them however if we were to fire
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everybody in television who's having an
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affair with a cooworker
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no one would no one would report for
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work like that's not a fireable offense
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MSNBC might need to find a new Morning
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Show I'll say that much liter well yeah
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exactly and like just trust me that's
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not a Criterion for firing and yet Amy
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robot got fired for having an affair huh
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that's kind of weird right forg to fire
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Amy robot since she got caught and by
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the way they made her apologize for it
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they made her apologize and she like she
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issues this hostage statement trying to
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keep her job like ah when I said the EPC
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stuff was real I was just
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kidding like
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what y people say the news is full of
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lies can's motor cave
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239 death Jeffrey
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