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RE: 300 dead, 1600 injured and still counting - 727Sky - 10-25-2023




RE: 300 dead, 1600 injured and still counting - putnam6 - 10-25-2023

(10-25-2023, 12:17 PM)727Sky Wrote:

Its simple Hamas needs to release the hostages...people don't remember Munich or Entebbe. Israel will not negotiate while hostages are being held


RE: 300 dead, 1600 injured and still counting - dbcowboy - 10-25-2023

(10-25-2023, 03:20 PM)putnam6 Wrote:
(10-25-2023, 12:17 PM)727Sky Wrote:

Its simple Hamas needs to release the hostages...people don't remember Munich or Entebbe. Israel will not negotiate while hostages are being held

They probably can't, in my sad and humble opinion.

Most are probably dead.


RE: 300 dead, 1600 injured and still counting - putnam6 - 10-25-2023

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I not so sure,itwas stupid as hell to take hostages, but even more so if they have killed them already, they were their only bargaining chip. Reports say 22 have died but who knows... 
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They probably can't, in my sad and humble opinion.

Most are probably dead.


RE: 300 dead, 1600 injured and still counting - EndtheMadnessNow - 10-25-2023

Day 19, the Gaza Strip, Oct 25th: Big effin Boooms & billowing black/grey smoke!

https://twitter.com/Timesofgaza/status/1717290441199010273

Key Statements From Netanyahu’s Address Today:

All Hamas operatives must die. All Hamas terrorists are dead men walking – above ground, below ground, outside Gaza.

We are raining down hellfire on Hamas. We have already eliminated thousands of terrorists – and this is only the beginning. At the same time, we are preparing for a ground incursion. I will not detail when, how or how many, or the overall considerations that we are taking into account, most of which are unknown to the public, and this is how it needs to be, in order to better safeguard the lives of our soldiers.

There are no political considerations. We're fighting to save Israel.

We are working to get the hostages free.

We will rebuild the Kibbutzim that were destroyed.

We're encouraging civilians to be armed in an organized way.

October 7th was a dark day. There will be an investigation. Everyone will have to give answers. I'll have to give answers. But that investigation will happen after the war. Now is the time to come together as a nation to storm ahead to victory.

My responsibility now as Prime Minister is to ensure the existence of the Jewish state.

"Together we will fight. Together, we will win," Netanyahu concluded.

Statement by PM Netanyahu (Oct 25, 2023)


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More than half of Hamas' hostages have foreign nationality - Israel

So basically every fourth hostage in Gaza since Oct. 7 is a Thai farm worker...and probably expendable.


Israeli Ambassador to the UN Gilad Erdan at the UN Security Council slammed China and Russia for their resolution calling for a ceasefireand their blocking of the US resolution which would condemn Hamas and call on them to release the hostages:

"How would Moscow react if terrorists wiped out entire neighborhoods in Moscow? How would Beijing react if terrorists cut off the heads of your babies?"

Russian Ambassador to the UN Vasily Alekseyevich Nebenzya responded to Erdan's remarks by basically saying that Russia has also had terror attacks and that Israel has the right to go after the terrorists (not sure how that is in line with their resolution calling for a ceasefire) but shouldn't go after civilians.

Chinese Ambassador to the UN Zhang Jun responded to Erdan's remarks as well.

They spoke all day so quotes are from this reporter's thread.


Erdogan says Hamas isn’t a terror group but patriotic organisation that defends its territories and people.

"They are the warriors (mujahids) he says. "We aren’t indebted to Israel. But the West is...I won’t visit Israel."




Awliyat al-Waad al-Haq, or The True Promise Brigades, a little known militia with ties to Iraq’s Kataib Hezbollah, or Hezbollah Brigades, an Iran-backed group listed by the US as a terrorist organisation...says US bases in Kuwait and the UAE are now "legitimate targets." More war propaganda or maybe not.
They claimed to have launched attacks against the UAE in 2022.

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Goog translation:

"After the persistence of the Zionist entity and its supporters in exterminating our people in steadfast Palestine, and the killing, displacement and destruction we are witnessing today against the patient, struggling Palestinian people, we affirm that our patience has limits, and we give good news to the honorable and jealous members of our nation, that we consider the American bases in Kuwait and the Emirates as legitimate targets for us, in response to crimes. The Zionist entity and America, and in revenge for the martyrs of beloved Palestine."

Lord knows how many of these groups/cells/Jihad bots exist joining the online battlefield.


RE: 300 dead, 1600 injured and still counting - A51Watcher2 - 10-26-2023

(10-25-2023, 10:33 AM)putnam6 Wrote:
(10-25-2023, 07:57 AM)A51Watcher2 Wrote:

Aren't these videos basically an amalgamation of the general news of the day? with clickbait titles...

No. 

Actually Raptor has been providing the most accurate updates on the conflict since it began.

Review their videos on their channel and see for yourself.


RE: 300 dead, 1600 injured and still counting - putnam6 - 10-26-2023

(10-26-2023, 02:14 AM)A51Watcher2 Wrote:
(10-25-2023, 10:33 AM)putnam6 Wrote:
(10-25-2023, 07:57 AM)A51Watcher2 Wrote:

Aren't these videos basically an amalgamation of the general news of the day? with clickbait titles...

No. 

Actually Raptor has been providing the most accurate updates on the conflict since it began.

Review their videos on their channel and see for yourself.
Apologizes wasn't trying to offend just a personal preference

We will have to agree to disagree  perhaps I am plugged into and watching this way too closely

I watched the video and stumbled across their videos before FWIW. In your video he goes over the same information twice all with repetitive video game graphics. I get it some people love that stuff,  to each their own.

In this video, he covered incidents that were on https://israelpalestine.liveuamap.com/and the Defender Dome Discord channel Times of Gaza, Jerusalem Post etc. 

It wasn't new information, you can look a previous reports on liveuamap, again nothing wrong with it, but it's just an amalgamation of news put on a video with a catchy title, it isn't supposed to be up to the minute

Here's livemap's report on the bombing of Aleppo's airport a day ago thats was reported 15 hours ago on Raptor Vids. It was reported elsewhere on Twitter/X at 6:49 AM EST on October 25th the source Livemap used.

Raptor vids most recent video points out a surprise attack on an Iranian military base from Iranian militants sympathetic to Israel, I hope this is true but can't find any verification anywhere this happened though, they mention various sources within the region. 

Would love to read more about this surprise attack, yet nobody is reporting it anywhere. 

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Note the time stamps below


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But let's do a test fairly big news as a US base in Iraq is attacked by a drone reported here on live map, let's see how long it take Raptor videos to cover the news

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RE: 300 dead, 1600 injured and still counting - Ninurta - 10-26-2023

(10-26-2023, 05:22 PM)putnam6 Wrote: Apologizes wasn't trying to offend just a personal preference

We will have to agree to disagree  perhaps I am plugged into and watching this way too closely

I watched the video and stumbled across their videos before FWIW. In your video he goes over the same information twice all with repetitive video game graphics. I get it some people love that stuff,  to each their own.

In this video, he covered incidents that were on https://israelpalestine.liveuamap.com/and the Defender Dome Discord channel Times of Gaza, Jerusalem Post etc. 

It wasn't new information, you can look a previous reports on liveuamap, again nothing wrong with it, but it's just an amalgamation of news put on a video with a catchy title, it isn't supposed to be up to the minute

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Then there's people like me. I'd never heard of "liveuamap" before this post, and was unaware of their coverage. I have an "X" account, but have never figured out how it's used to get "news". It's basically entirely useless to me unless someone else finds the information. Discord is a psychedelic freakout from where I stand - it moves faster than i can read, so I can't keep up and be informed from it, even if I had a clue how to use it. I've tried, twice,and admitted defeat both times.

YouTube I can figure out. I can navigate it. Granted, lately since they banned me from YouTube I've had to figure out alternate means of connection to it, but it's still my go-to for information. Were it not for folks like Raptor offering these news and event compendiums on YouTube, I'd be better off fishing... I mean REALLY fishing, with a rod, reel and hook on a riverbank far away from information sources. My old , curmudgeonly ass would be entirely lost and unable to keep up, so I'd be better off not even trying.

So, I reckon I can put up with "clickbait" titles - and I've seen much, much worse than his, titles that are clickbait with no relationship to the contents of the videos - in order to keep up with events in a gathered-up and digestible form.

It takes all kinds in this world, and this is just more evidence that there is something for everyone, if someone knows where to point them towards.

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RE: 300 dead, 1600 injured and still counting - putnam6 - 10-26-2023

(10-26-2023, 10:24 PM)Ninurta Wrote:
(10-26-2023, 05:22 PM)putnam6 Wrote: Apologizes wasn't trying to offend just a personal preference

We will have to agree to disagree  perhaps I am plugged into and watching this way too closely

I watched the video and stumbled across their videos before FWIW. In your video he goes over the same information twice all with repetitive video game graphics. I get it some people love that stuff,  to each their own.

In this video, he covered incidents that were on https://israelpalestine.liveuamap.com/and the Defender Dome Discord channel Times of Gaza, Jerusalem Post etc. 

It wasn't new information, you can look a previous reports on liveuamap, again nothing wrong with it, but it's just an amalgamation of news put on a video with a catchy title, it isn't supposed to be up to the minute

.

Then there's people like me. I'd never heard of "liveuamap" before this post, and was unaware of their coverage. I have an "X" account, but have never figured out how it's used to get "news". It's basically entirely useless to me unless someone else finds the information. Discord is a psychedelic freakout from where I stand - it moves faster than i can read, so I can't keep up and be informed from it, even if I had a clue how to use it. I've tried, twice,and admitted defeat both times.

YouTube I can figure out. I can navigate it. Granted, lately since they banned me from YouTube I've had to figure out alternate means of connection to it, but it's still my go-to for information. Were it not for folks like Raptor offering these news and event compendiums on YouTube, I'd be better off fishing... I mean REALLY fishing, with a rod, reel and hook on a riverbank far away from information sources. My old , curmudgeonly ass would be entirely lost and unable to keep up, so I'd be better off not even trying.

So, I reckon I can put up with "clickbait" titles - and I've seen much, much worse than his, titles that are clickbait with no relationship to the contents of the videos - in order to keep up with events in a gathered-up and digestible form.

It takes all kinds in this world, and this is just more evidence that there is something for everyone, if someone knows where to point them towards.

.

Apologies, didn't mean to upset the applecart I'll humbly withdraw from the thread...


RE: 300 dead, 1600 injured and still counting - 727Sky - 10-27-2023




RE: 300 dead, 1600 injured and still counting - Ninurta - 10-27-2023

(10-26-2023, 10:51 PM)putnam6 Wrote:
(10-26-2023, 10:24 PM)Ninurta Wrote:
(10-26-2023, 05:22 PM)putnam6 Wrote: Apologizes wasn't trying to offend just a personal preference

We will have to agree to disagree  perhaps I am plugged into and watching this way too closely

I watched the video and stumbled across their videos before FWIW. In your video he goes over the same information twice all with repetitive video game graphics. I get it some people love that stuff,  to each their own.

In this video, he covered incidents that were on https://israelpalestine.liveuamap.com/and the Defender Dome Discord channel Times of Gaza, Jerusalem Post etc. 

It wasn't new information, you can look a previous reports on liveuamap, again nothing wrong with it, but it's just an amalgamation of news put on a video with a catchy title, it isn't supposed to be up to the minute

.

Then there's people like me. I'd never heard of "liveuamap" before this post, and was unaware of their coverage. I have an "X" account, but have never figured out how it's used to get "news". It's basically entirely useless to me unless someone else finds the information. Discord is a psychedelic freakout from where I stand - it moves faster than i can read, so I can't keep up and be informed from it, even if I had a clue how to use it. I've tried, twice,and admitted defeat both times.

YouTube I can figure out. I can navigate it. Granted, lately since they banned me from YouTube I've had to figure out alternate means of connection to it, but it's still my go-to for information. Were it not for folks like Raptor offering these news and event compendiums on YouTube, I'd be better off fishing... I mean REALLY fishing, with a rod, reel and hook on a riverbank far away from information sources. My old , curmudgeonly ass would be entirely lost and unable to keep up, so I'd be better off not even trying.

So, I reckon I can put up with "clickbait" titles - and I've seen much, much worse than his, titles that are clickbait with no relationship to the contents of the videos - in order to keep up with events in a gathered-up and digestible form.

It takes all kinds in this world, and this is just more evidence that there is something for everyone, if someone knows where to point them towards.

.

Apologies, didn't mean to upset the applecart I'll humbly withdraw from the thread...

No need to withdraw. I was just pointing out that different folks get their information in different ways. What's good for one might not necessarily be good for another.

.


RE: 300 dead, 1600 injured and still counting - EndtheMadnessNow - 10-27-2023

From the X (twitter) chatter platform:

Senior Israeli Officials are stating that “Tonight is the Night” and that the Full-Scale Invasion of the Gaza Strip will begin in the coming hours.
Northern Gaza is getting hammered past few hours by air strikes & artillery.

IDF Spokesperson: "In the last few hours we have increased the attacks in Gaza. The Air Force is widely attacking underground targets and terrorist infrastructures, very significantly. Following the offensive activity we carried out in the last few days, the ground forces are expanding the ground activity tonight . The IDF works powerfully in all dimensions in order to bring about the realization of the goals of the war."

Meanwhile, somehow, rockets continue to be launched into Israeli cities & towns keeping Iron Dome busy.

The Pale Horse, Carrier USS Dwight D. Eisenhower Approaching Mediterranean, French Deploy Warships Near Israel - The collection of warships will be among the largest mass of U.S. ships in the region in decades.


Some X accounts I periodically check:

https://twitter.com/idf
https://twitter.com/jconricus (IDF Spokesperson LTC Jonathan Conricus)
https://twitter.com/idfonline (Hebrew only)
https://twitter.com/idfspokesperson (Rear Admiral Daniel Hagari)
https://twitter.com/IAFsite (Israeli Air Force / mix of English & Hebrew)
https://twitter.com/sentdefender
https://twitter.com/ELINTNews
https://twitter.com/giladerdan1 (Israel Ambassador Gilad Erdan)
https://twitter.com/Timesofgaza (just to hear/see the flip-side)
https://twitter.com/AbbyMartin (to really hear the flip-side)
https://twitter.com/YWNReporter (Moshe Schwartz)
https://twitter.com/michaelh992 (Michael A. Horowitz, Geopolitical and security analyst)
https://twitter.com/lookner (one man army-best reporter on YT, covers big crisis events live)
https://twitter.com/JoeTruzman (Research analyst focused on Palestinian armed groups)
https://twitter.com/WarOnTheRocks (https://warontherocks.com/ - scholar analysis & debate on strategy, defense, and foreign affairs)


Arabic::

https://twitter.com/qudsn (Arabic media service, of Palestinian affiliation, youth formation)

https://twitter.com/PalinfoAr (The voice of Palestine to the world)

https://twitter.com/paldf (Palestine Network for Dialogue)

As you probably have certainly seen by now, most everything online is heavily one-sided with plenty of fake vids/stories & train loads of propaganda.


https://www.idf.il/en - Israel Defense Forces Updates

https://israelpalestine.liveuamap.com/ - Live map

Snap Maps short phone vids from inside Gaza or any other place in the world. Just click anywhere on the map, like Gaza City.


Interesting article from (@WarInstitute) Modern War Institute:

Underground Nightmare: Hamas Tunnels and the Wicked Problem Facing the IDF


RE: 300 dead, 1600 injured and still counting - xuenchen - 10-27-2023

In the meantime . . . . . . .   Laughing


Iran’s Top Diplomat: U.S. ‘Will Not Be Spared from This Fire’ if It Continues to Support Israel



Quote:Iranian Foreign Minister Hossein Amirabdollahian threatened further attacks against the United States and its interests at the U.N. General Assembly meeting in New York on Thursday.


Iran is already launching rocket and drone attacks against bases housing American personnel in Iraq and Syria, using Shiite militia groups controlled by the Iranian Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC). U.S. forces have been able to intercept most of these attacks, but dozens of minor injuries have been reported.

“I say frankly to the American statesmen, who are now managing the genocide in Palestine, that we do not welcome expansion of the war in the region. But if the genocide in Gaza continues, they will not be spared from this fire,” Amirabdollahian told the U.N. General Assembly.
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RE: 300 dead, 1600 injured and still counting - 727Sky - 10-28-2023

Israeli Ambassador about the current operation and the hostages situation



RE: 300 dead, 1600 injured and still counting - xuenchen - 10-28-2023

Looks like The IDF is moving in !!!!!!

Strike up the band !!

"Tanks are now inside the Gaza Strip."


RE: 300 dead, 1600 injured and still counting - Snarl - 10-28-2023

(10-28-2023, 01:16 AM)xuenchen Wrote: Looks like The IDF is moving in !!!!!!

Strike up the band !!

"Tanks are now inside the Gaza Strip."

Fuck Joe Biden


RE: 300 dead, 1600 injured and still counting - SomeJackleg - 10-28-2023

(10-28-2023, 01:19 AM)Snarl Wrote:
(10-28-2023, 01:16 AM)xuenchen Wrote: Looks like The IDF is moving in !!!!!!

Strike up the band !!

"Tanks are now inside the Gaza Strip."

Fuck Joe Biden

wouldn't that be let go brandon?




RE: 300 dead, 1600 injured and still counting - 727Sky - 10-28-2023

The people of Palestine will suffer for raising children who joined Hamas; rightly so IMO.


RE: 300 dead, 1600 injured and still counting - EndtheMadnessNow - 10-28-2023

Biden sends notification to Congress that he has used military force without a declaration of war...and may take further action as necessary.

Quote:Letter to the Speaker of the House and President pro tempore of the Senate consistent with the War Powers Resolution (Public Law 93-148)

As I have reported previously, militia groups affiliated with Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) have perpetrated a series of attacks against United States personnel and facilities in Iraq and Syria.  Since October 17, 2023, these militia groups have conducted numerous attacks using unmanned aerial systems and indirect fire, injuring several United States service members.  A United States contractor suffered a fatal cardiac incident while moving to shelter during one of these attacks. These attacks have placed under grave threat the lives of United States personnel and of Coalition forces operating alongside United States forces.

In response to this series of attacks and continuing threats of future attacks, at my direction, on the night of October 26, 2023, United States forces conducted targeted strikes against facilities in eastern Syria.  The precision strikes targeted facilities used by the IRGC and IRGC-affiliated groups for command and control, munitions storage, and other purposes.

...

The United States took this necessary and proportionate action consistent with international law and in the exercise of the United States’ inherent right of self-defense as reflected in Article 51 of the United Nations Charter. The United States stands ready to take further action, as necessary and appropriate, to address further threats or attacks.

Too soon?




RE: 300 dead, 1600 injured and still counting - xuenchen - 10-29-2023

Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

WTF?

ISRAELI POLICE are now spraying SEWAGE WATER mixed with POTENT CHEMICALS at Palestinians in Jerusalem