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Social security payments for Americans - 727Sky - 09-16-2023

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Quote:Here's How Much Social Security Payments Will Increase in 2024 Under New Estimate

A group estimated that Social Security recipients will see higher payments in 2024 as the yearly cost-of-living adjustment will be announced in October.
[Image: image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fimg.theepochtime...=1200&q=75]Blank Social Security checks are run through a printer at the U.S. Treasury printing facility in Philadelphia, Pa., on Feb. 11, 2005. (William Thomas Cain/Getty Images)
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By Jack Phillips
9/15/2023
Updated:
9/15/2023
Hotter-than-anticipated inflation numbers in August will likely push Social Security recipients' payments higher in 2024, coming just weeks before the Social Security Administration releases its cost-of-living adjustment.
The Senior Citizens League said Wednesday that the likely Social Security cost-of-living adjustment (COLA) will be 3.2 percent for benefit payments in 2024. That would average out to about a $57 increase in extra benefits, raising them to about $1,790 for the average recipient, it estimated in a press release.
The 3.2 percent COLA is far lower than the 8.7 percent that was received for 2023's payments, which was the highest increase in about four decades, according to the group. However, the estimated 2024 COLA would be higher than the 2.6 percent average over the past 20 years, it said.

In August, the league had predicted that, based on inflation, the COLA would be 3 percent. That came before the Department of Labor released its August inflation numbers.
The Social Security Administration is expected to announce the COLA for 2024's benefits sometime in October, with the increased payments coming next January. The agency uses the Consumer Price Index (CPI) that measures inflation during the months of July, August, and September before making its decision.
Mary Johnson, with the Senior Citizens League, told USA Today that despite the decades-high COLA for 2023, retirees haven't been able to recover the losses incurred by recent high inflation. In mid-2022, the CPI hit 40-year highs in the wake of multiple trillion-dollar spending packages, supply-chain issues, exceptionally high gas prices, and the aftermath of pandemic-related chaos.
Seniors Can't Keep Up
While inflation has slowed in 2023, it has remained stubbornly high—especially when compared with much of the 2010s and 2000s.
Major Warning Given on Social Security Checks | Facts Matter



“Inflation was so severe in 2021 and 2022 that the average Social Security benefit fell behind by $1,054, leaving 53 percent of retirees doubting they will recover because household costs rose more than the dollar amount of their COLAs,” Ms. Johnson told the outlet.
Elsewhere, she noted that among recipients, there are "two different groups," adding: "There are the planners who put money aside, maybe worked for companies that had pensions," reported Newsweek. "They may have a 401k or worked in the military and had retiree benefits. And then there's the other side."
Ms. Johnson also noted that some Social Security recipients also have to pay taxes. A survey in July found that about 23 percent of respondents paid taxes on a portion of their Social Security benefits for the first time during this past tax season, and it's likely that figure may jump due to last year's COLA increase.

“We expect the number who pay tax on a portion of their Social Security benefits to jump even more as next year’s tax season reflects the 8.7 percent COLA increase in 2023,” she told USA Today.

Medicare Premiums
Estimated COLA figures don't include the anticipated rise in Medicare costs, according to the group. The federal Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services also announces Medicare premium adjustments in the fall as well.
"The bottom line for retirees won’t be known until Medicare premiums are announced, which is typically in November. The Social Security Administration automatically deducts Medicare Part B premiums from Social Security benefits before the benefits are received," the Senior Citizens League said in its release.
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The group forecast that most Medicare Plan B beneficiaries will see their premium rise by approximately $15 per month as compared with 2023, according to the group. But it stipulated that "other costs" may drive monthly premiums up even more.
In March, the Medicare Trustees predicted that Plan B premiums will increase to $174.80 next year, or up about $$164 from 2023.
Rates Could Rise
The prediction comes as Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell said late last month that the central bank may need to raise interest rates even more to cool still-too-high inflation, coming after it raised rates again in July.
"We will proceed carefully as we decide whether to tighten further or, instead, to hold the policy rate constant and await further data," Mr. Powell said in a keynote address in Jackson Hole, Wyoming. "It is the Fed’s job to bring inflation down to our 2 percent [inflation] goal, and we will do so."
Since March 2022, the Fed has raised rates by 5.25 percentage points in a bid to curb inflation. "We are prepared to raise rates further if appropriate, and intend to hold policy at a restrictive level until we are confident that inflation is moving sustainably down toward our objective," he said last month, according to Reuters.
This week, Reuters also polled economists on when exactly the Fed will start lowering rates. About 87 percent predicted that the central bank would cut rates by the middle of 2024
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RE: Social security payments for Americans - Snarl - 09-16-2023

Am afraid the Baby Boomers are gonna lose in the end. They will have paid into SocSec their entire lives ... will have thought they could lean onto it as they age ... and see the 'crutch' that they bought and paid for pulled out from under them. Too bad their solid earning years are beyond most. Too bad they're mostly too old to take up arms and overthrow this shit-ass of a government that's taken over total control of the country.

As a boomer (who has yet to start drawing SocSec) ... you can probably see where I'm coming from.


RE: Social security payments for Americans - GeauxHomeLittleD - 09-16-2023

Per every single person I know receiving their Social Security benefits: Every single time they get a raise the cost of Medicare rises in the almost exact amount of the raise thus "eating it up".


RE: Social security payments for Americans - Infolurker - 09-17-2023

If I can, I plan on working until I am dead or incapacitated. 

Why? 

Social Security is poverty wages. My annual bonuses are more than the net income of social security after deductions let alone my salary and my medical benefits are pretty damned good. 

I would rather keep working than be dirt poor broke. Now the challenge is "will my company let me keep working" or not. 

Age discrimination is REAL.


RE: Social security payments for Americans - Snarl - 09-17-2023

(09-17-2023, 02:35 PM)Infolurker Wrote: Age discrimination is REAL.

I get paid what I'm worth (these days). One should only get paid the fair sum of what they're able to produce where labor is involved. It's sometimes the magic of nature which dictates thought.

Knowing from experience that the older you get the slower I go means I don't consider that discrimination at all. It just is. And ... that's why we retire from the rat race. It does seem to me that smarter people retire better. And, folks like me just keep on keeping on.  Laughing


RE: Social security payments for Americans - ancientlight - 09-19-2023

Social security is a scam imo. You'd be better off investing or just plain saving. At least then you can be semi sure you'll have something in the end.


RE: Social security payments for Americans - Schmoe - 09-19-2023

(09-17-2023, 06:01 PM)Snarl Wrote:
(09-17-2023, 02:35 PM)Infolurker Wrote: Age discrimination is REAL.

I get paid what I'm worth (these days). One should only get paid the fair sum of what they're able to produce where labor is involved. It's sometimes the magic of nature which dictates thought.

Knowing from experience that the older you get the slower I go means I don't consider that discrimination at all. It just is. And ... that's why we retire from the rat race. It does seem to me that smarter people retire better. And, folks like me just keep on keeping on.  Laughing

I worked at a metal fabricator over a decade ago that still did piece-work.  The amount of parts you made over the hourly rate was placed towards a bonus you got at the end of the year.  I loved that.  I could make more than people who'd been there 30 years, all I had to do was bust my ass.  I ended up leaving that place though, because the management liked to micromanage.

The place I'm at now doesn't do a piece-work bonus, but their bonus is still far larger than any I got at the other place.  Everyone gets the same bonus though.  I'm not sure how I feel about that.  Yeah, we're all on the same team, but some work harder than others.  I can't help but wonder why the shop shit-talker, who spends a quarter of his day bullshitting and shit-talking, gets the same bonus I do.  Those types, I take issue with.  Others, those who've been there 30 years and have slowed down due to age, I don't mind at all.  What they lack in speed, they make up for with experience.

As far as social security goes, I came to peace long ago with the fact that I'll be working until I die.  I've never felt long for this world anyway  Laughing


RE: Social security payments for Americans - Snarl - 09-19-2023

(09-19-2023, 06:51 AM)Schmoe Wrote:
(09-17-2023, 06:01 PM)Snarl Wrote:
(09-17-2023, 02:35 PM)Infolurker Wrote: Age discrimination is REAL.

I get paid what I'm worth (these days).

The place I'm at now doesn't do a piece-work bonus, but their bonus is still far larger than any I got at the other place.  Everyone gets the same bonus though.  I'm not sure how I feel about that.  Yeah, we're all on the same team, but some work harder than others.  I can't help but wonder why the shop shit-talker, who spends a quarter of his day bullshitting and shit-talking, gets the same bonus I do.  Those types, I take issue with.  Others, those who've been there 30 years and have slowed down due to age, I don't mind at all.  What they lack in speed, they make up for with experience.

My last employer paid bonuses for piece work too. Laughing  Only thing was ... someone else was required to do the counting during moments of chaos.

I'm back to letting nature determine how much I'm gonna make. Things I've learned about farming: love your land and it'll love you back; love your animals because they're innocent creatures who depend on you (except the mean ones); sell high when you start showing a profit.

We're all on a very short amount of borrowed time. As long as you're enjoying the time that's yours exclusively, you're living well. Took me a long time to figure out that off-time didn't necessarily belong to me. Longer still to ensure 'my time' was defined, measured and assured ... not too much & not too little.


RE: Social security payments for Americans - Schmoe - 09-19-2023

(09-19-2023, 10:59 AM)Snarl Wrote:
(09-19-2023, 06:51 AM)Schmoe Wrote:
(09-17-2023, 06:01 PM)Snarl Wrote:
(09-17-2023, 02:35 PM)Infolurker Wrote: Age discrimination is REAL.

I get paid what I'm worth (these days).

The place I'm at now doesn't do a piece-work bonus, but their bonus is still far larger than any I got at the other place.  Everyone gets the same bonus though.  I'm not sure how I feel about that.  Yeah, we're all on the same team, but some work harder than others.  I can't help but wonder why the shop shit-talker, who spends a quarter of his day bullshitting and shit-talking, gets the same bonus I do.  Those types, I take issue with.  Others, those who've been there 30 years and have slowed down due to age, I don't mind at all.  What they lack in speed, they make up for with experience.

My last employer paid bonuses for piece work too. Laughing  Only thing was ... someone else was required to do the counting during moments of chaos.

I'm back to letting nature determine how much I'm gonna make. Things I've learned about farming: love your land and it'll love you back; love your animals because they're innocent creatures who depend on you (except the mean ones); sell high when you start showing a profit.

We're all on a very short amount of borrowed time. As long as you're enjoying the time that's yours exclusively, you're living well. Took me a long time to figure out that off-time didn't necessarily belong to me. Longer still to ensure 'my time' was defined, measured and assured ... not too much & not too little.

I would definitely eat the mean ones first  Laughing


RE: Social security payments for Americans - Snarl - 09-19-2023

(09-19-2023, 02:46 PM)Schmoe Wrote: I would definitely eat the mean ones first  Laughing

Buy a set of these every time you can afford to: https://www.amazon.com/Smith-Wesson-1900-Irons-Nickel/dp/B0013XTS4W

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I got 10 pairs for $100. No hesitation. They're split between barns. No trespassing means No Trespassing.