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Apathy - GeauxHomeLittleD - 08-16-2023
Apathy is a noun defined as a lack of interest, enthusiasm or concern.... and I feel it almost all of the time now. In talking to others apathy seems to describe the condition of the vast majority of people these days.
For the past several years between the governments of the world and the mainstream media we as a population have been constantly bombarded with trauma and fear to the point where we just don't care anymore. The things that once brought joy don't do so as they once did, things that once excited us no longer do.
Apathy can definitely be brought on by depression or schizophrenia but more often than not it is brought on by trauma. People can be treated supposedly by lifestyle changes or medications and therapy but honestly when those don't work because the trauma is ongoing and continuous what can people do?
Over the years mental health has become a much less taboo subject and people will readily discuss Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome but why is nobody discussing PRESENT Traumatic Stress Syndrome? Every single day we are bombarded over and over with fear mongering to the point where none of it has an impact any longer. Another possible pandemic? Massive fires all over the world? Government corruption? Chance of nuclear war? Human trafficking? Climate change? Gender lunacy? Aliens? Vaccine injury? The failing economy? The Apocalypse? It has gotten to the point where most people don't even care anymore!
People feeling apathy toward all of these "emergencies" seems like it was the plan all along. Bombard the people with one "emergency" after another until NOTHING feels urgent anymore and nobody cares. It seems like a reasonable supposition that people who don't care about anything will just go along with whatever TPTB decide to mandate. A lot of those apathetic people will do exactly that, in fact the majority will.
What TPTB failed to take into consideration with this is that among the apathetic there is a subset of people who are also incredible assholes who while feeling apathy will still buck the system simply because "Fuck you, that's why!" While not caring about any of the so-called "emergencies" we still don't like being told what to do and will do the exact opposite just because we can.
As long as there are still assholes there is hope- if anyone is left that can still feel it anymore.
(Maybe I should have put this in the Rant forum?)
RE: Apathy - Ninurta - 08-16-2023
(08-16-2023, 06:39 PM)GeauxHomeLittleD Wrote: Apathy is a noun defined as a lack of interest, enthusiasm or concern.... and I feel it almost all of the time now. In talking to others apathy seems to describe the condition of the vast majority of people these days.
For the past several years between the governments of the world and the mainstream media we as a population have been constantly bombarded with trauma and fear to the point where we just don't care anymore. The things that once brought joy don't do so as they once did, things that once excited us no longer do.
Apathy can definitely be brought on by depression or schizophrenia but more often than not it is brought on by trauma. People can be treated supposedly by lifestyle changes or medications and therapy but honestly when those don't work because the trauma is ongoing and continuous what can people do?
Over the years mental health has become a much less taboo subject and people will readily discuss Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome but why is nobody discussing PRESENT Traumatic Stress Syndrome? Every single day we are bombarded over and over with fear mongering to the point where none of it has an impact any longer. Another possible pandemic? Massive fires all over the world? Government corruption? Chance of nuclear war? Human trafficking? Climate change? Gender lunacy? Aliens? Vaccine injury? The failing economy? The Apocalypse? It has gotten to the point where most people don't even care anymore!
People feeling apathy toward all of these "emergencies" seems like it was the plan all along. Bombard the people with one "emergency" after another until NOTHING feels urgent anymore and nobody cares. It seems like a reasonable supposition that people who don't care about anything will just go along with whatever TPTB decide to mandate. A lot of those apathetic people will do exactly that, in fact the majority will.
What TPTB failed to take into consideration with this is that among the apathetic there is a subset of people who are also incredible assholes who while feeling apathy will still buck the system simply because "Fuck you, that's why!" While not caring about any of the so-called "emergencies" we still don't like being told what to do and will do the exact opposite just because we can.
As long as there are still assholes there is hope- if anyone is left that can still feel it anymore.
(Maybe I should have put this in the Rant forum?)
I'm one of those apathetic assholes - I don't care about much of anything any more, but I'm gonna do what I'm gonna do despite the fear porn of the day. I don't even care to just oppose whatever way they're trying to lead me because, fuck them. I'm just going to do what I was already going to do and ignore them because, fuck them.
As far as ignorance and apathy go, I define both terms - I don't know, and I don't care.
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RE: Apathy - NightskyeB4Dawn - 08-16-2023
Just when I think I am ready to fall into the apathy pit hole, a Nebuchadnezzar shows up along the road on my travels through life. Or a patient like the one we had yesterday comes into my life.
I can also be a bit of a jackass to some, especially when I fall into Mama Bear mode, but apathy is something that just doesn't seem to stick around for long with me.
I guess spending my whole life being the oldest of ten, just has made it impossible for apathy to find a place in my heart or soul.
Sometimes I wish that I truly did not give a damn, but so far it remains just a wish that is nothing more than a self deception.
RE: Apathy - Grace - 08-16-2023
I limit my news intake these days plus I stay out of a lot of the debates now with liberals (aka communists). I notice when I debate now after I or 2 days (you know those pages long discussions) I have to stop, and often for a week or more I'll have to stay away from discussions before debating again.
All of this IS too much - we are literally hit on every side, with every single issue that matters. No one can truly handle what it's become these days. And yes I absolutely agree with you it's by design so that people completely tune out.
For me I hang onto God (my Christian faith)very tightly, it really helps center me when the whole world seems like it's gone mad.
Also, when personal attacks begin I walk. Period. No point going further at that point - it's a win when all your opponent can do is start calling you names in the face of facts and truth.
Also, I can't go out running around the woods anymore but my window stays open and I get to look at and feel a part of the natural world.
In doing these things I keep a.) My sanity and b.) My sense of calm in the face of an information guerrilla war for the soul of the nations.
I absolutely believe limiting what we expose ourselves to in such a manner as to keep balanced is the only way to get through all this unscathed - and without becoming apathetic because our minds aren't made for what's going on, not this level.
RE: Apathy - Kenzo - 08-17-2023
The news do try to get under my skin for sure .
RE: Apathy - 727Sky - 08-17-2023
I am sorry for what many are experiencing and the seemingly hopelessness future some believe is just around the corner.
I hate to be that guy but my world is as good as it gets as far as life goes. My biggest consternation is why I did not play better at a golf outing...no kidding... One of my caddies just called as she was being hauled off to the police station for tax evasion. She had just opened a small market at her home and did not file a tax form.. If you are selling food there is no tax but evidently she ordered something via the internet for resale.. STUPID!.. Well they captured her and she is being threatened with Thai jail time...Thai jail time is worse than most things you can imagine. A life sentence used to be anything over 5 to 7 years as most did not live longer...it is better now but still .... Most things here can be settled with tea money (money in the pocket of the cop to make a problem go away.... I love this place !! )
The caddie has a young boy (maybe 6+) and a hard working husband but as most people they live from hand to mouth without extra money for anything.
Anyway 20,000 baht and she is free to screw up again. She will pay me back @ 2000 baht a month.. Supposedly... I never loan and expect to be paid back...if paid back a pleasant surprise.
Very few people other than family knows someone's name as everyone uses a nickname. Sapawn Pac Dee for a first name ends up being Joy or Nit or Dang as a nickname. I am known as ATM !!1 hahahah
RE: Apathy - quintessentone - 08-17-2023
(08-16-2023, 06:39 PM)GeauxHomeLittleD Wrote: Apathy is a noun defined as a lack of interest, enthusiasm or concern.... and I feel it almost all of the time now. In talking to others apathy seems to describe the condition of the vast majority of people these days.
For the past several years between the governments of the world and the mainstream media we as a population have been constantly bombarded with trauma and fear to the point where we just don't care anymore. The things that once brought joy don't do so as they once did, things that once excited us no longer do.
Apathy can definitely be brought on by depression or schizophrenia but more often than not it is brought on by trauma. People can be treated supposedly by lifestyle changes or medications and therapy but honestly when those don't work because the trauma is ongoing and continuous what can people do?
Over the years mental health has become a much less taboo subject and people will readily discuss Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome but why is nobody discussing PRESENT Traumatic Stress Syndrome? Every single day we are bombarded over and over with fear mongering to the point where none of it has an impact any longer. Another possible pandemic? Massive fires all over the world? Government corruption? Chance of nuclear war? Human trafficking? Climate change? Gender lunacy? Aliens? Vaccine injury? The failing economy? The Apocalypse? It has gotten to the point where most people don't even care anymore!
People feeling apathy toward all of these "emergencies" seems like it was the plan all along. Bombard the people with one "emergency" after another until NOTHING feels urgent anymore and nobody cares. It seems like a reasonable supposition that people who don't care about anything will just go along with whatever TPTB decide to mandate. A lot of those apathetic people will do exactly that, in fact the majority will.
What TPTB failed to take into consideration with this is that among the apathetic there is a subset of people who are also incredible assholes who while feeling apathy will still buck the system simply because "Fuck you, that's why!" While not caring about any of the so-called "emergencies" we still don't like being told what to do and will do the exact opposite just because we can.
As long as there are still assholes there is hope- if anyone is left that can still feel it anymore.
(Maybe I should have put this in the Rant forum?)
I could describe myself as a news junkie so my psyche is bombarded with mucho negativity and trauma this world has to report. I may be somewhat, not 100%, de-sensitized at this point.
As for being apathetic, well I am not sure what you would call it - first being concerned, second trying to find a solution/deal with it, third abandoning it after finding no solution. I tell myself there is nothing I can do, then I tell myself sure there is, plant a tree, donate to the needy, cut down eating meat, recycle more...it comes and it goes, but this does not work with every situation.
If I am in a long debate with opposing ideologies it is because I am trying to understand the psychology involving different types of people and the world better. And as you say, when it devolves to name calling, that really is the telltale sign that that person's passions and caring are seated in hate and negativity through misguided indoctrination some belief system they can't let go.
Yet, I am still not given to apathy because once I convinced such a person in such a predicament that they were on the wrong path, and eventually they realized it themselves. This keeps me going in debating controversial ideologies.
Before I let some things go forever, I try to explore it thoroughly or as best as I can. When I do let something go, I don't believe it is out of apathy, but out of the realization that I've done all I can do and time to move on or adapt as best that I can.
RE: Apathy - Grace - 08-17-2023
(08-17-2023, 07:07 AM)727Sky Wrote: I am sorry for what many are experiencing and the seemingly hopelessness future some believe is just around the corner.
I hate to be that guy but my world is as good as it gets as far as life goes. My biggest consternation is why I did not play better at a golf outing...no kidding... One of my caddies just called as she was being hauled off to the police station for tax evasion. She had just opened a small market at her home and did not file a tax form.. If you are selling food there is no tax but evidently she ordered something via the internet for resale.. STUPID!.. Well they captured her and she is being threatened with Thai jail time...Thai jail time is worse than most things you can imagine. A life sentence used to be anything over 5 to 7 years as most did not live longer...it is better now but still .... Most things here can be settled with tea money (money in the pocket of the cop to make a problem go away.... I love this place !! )
The caddie has a young boy (maybe 6+) and a hard working husband but as most people they live from hand to mouth without extra money for anything.
Anyway 20,000 baht and she is free to screw up again. She will pay me back @ 2000 baht a month.. Supposedly... I never loan and expect to be paid back...if paid back a pleasant surprise.
Very few people other than family knows someone's name as everyone uses a nickname. Sapawn Pac Dee for a first name ends up being Joy or Nit or Dang as a nickname. I am known as ATM !!1 hahahah
I love your post - it makes me smile.
Have the grandkids and kids all here visiting, that makes me REALLY smile. I forgot to take medicine on time last night and had to lay down for a while (pain), but with the kids running around playing and laughing and having a great time I couldn't stop smiling even laying down... It's just so wonderful having a full house again.
This is why we limit exposure to outside influences. Because life itself is still pretty good, you just have to get offline to see it.
RE: Apathy - Snarl - 08-17-2023
(08-16-2023, 07:28 PM)Ninurta Wrote: I don't know
Do you know what this is?
RE: Apathy - F2d5thCav - 08-17-2023
Geaux--
My pet "theory" is that we are now too interconnected with too many sources of information that play little real role in our lives, yet the information from them is presented to us as if it is so very important.
I've often considered pulling the plug on the internet for a while to see if my personal outlook improves; haven't done so yet for various reasons.
Bottom line is there is a lot of negativity being thrown at us from electronic sources.
Cheers
RE: Apathy - GeauxHomeLittleD - 08-17-2023
(08-17-2023, 06:03 PM)F2d5thCav Wrote: Geaux--
My pet "theory" is that we are now too interconnected with too many sources of information that play little real role in our lives, yet the information from them is presented to us as if it is so very important.
I've often considered pulling the plug on the internet for a while to see if my personal outlook improves; haven't done so yet for various reasons.
Bottom line is there is a lot of negativity being thrown at us from electronic sources.
Cheers
I go for days without looking at the internet or television at times. I'm not hopeless or anything- I just don't care. The only things I care about are personal to me like family and friends but as for anything else it wouldn't bother me a bit if an asteroid came out of left field and took out the whole show. As a society we are screwed and it would take something severely and literally earth shattering to change course at this point.
RE: Apathy - Schmoe - 08-18-2023
(08-17-2023, 03:43 PM)Snarl Wrote:(08-16-2023, 07:28 PM)Ninurta Wrote: I don't know
Do you know what this is?
It would appear my wife's heart got steamrolled
RE: Apathy - Ninurta - 08-18-2023
(08-17-2023, 03:43 PM)Snarl Wrote:(08-16-2023, 07:28 PM)Ninurta Wrote: I don't know
Do you know what this is?
I think there is a good possibility that I might severely beat, about the head and shoulders, any chef so bold as to attempt to serve me such a well-carbonized pizza repast! Grace and I have a running joke about "carmelized" food - when I see something that has been converted to charcoal like that, I tell her it was just "carmelized", which is something I picked up from her cooking shows. When someone on there burnt something, they tried to play it off as "carmelized", so I've decided "carmelized" really means "charcoalized".
For confirmation, I know this Mexican girl that makes home-made dulce de leche - Mexican caramel. I was eating some one day and asked her how she made it, and she said - direct quote here - "joo meex chugar and leche (milk), and then joo burn eet!"
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RE: Apathy - Snarl - 08-18-2023
(08-18-2023, 03:16 AM)Ninurta Wrote:(08-17-2023, 03:43 PM)Snarl Wrote:(08-16-2023, 07:28 PM)Ninurta Wrote: I don't know
Do you know what this is?
I think there is a good possibility that I might severely beat, about the head and shoulders, any chef so bold as to attempt to serve me such a well-carbonized pizza repast!
Well ... I was going to say, "That's what comes if you order a Hawaiian Pizza these days."
But, now I'd be too scared to put pineapple on your pizza to begin with.