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The Acronym Behind Our Wildest AI Dreams and Nightmares - EndtheMadnessNow - 08-04-2023 I wasn't sure which forum category this nutty subject matter (it's a doozy) would best fit, so dropping here. Aside from "biologics" (a term I'm still unsure about), over in the related fantasy realm I learned a crazy, wild, new acronym. Are you a "TESCREAList"? Quote:TESCREAL—pronounced “tess-cree-all.” It’s a strange word that you may have seen pop up over the past few months. The renowned computer scientist Dr. Timnit Gebru frequently mentions the “TESCREAL” ideologies on social media, and for a while the Twitter profile of billionaire venture capitalist Marc Andreessen read: “cyberpunk activist; embracer of variance; TESCREAList.” The Financial Times, Business Insider and VentureBeat have all used or investigated the word. And The Washington Spectator published an article by Dave Troy titled, “Understanding TESCREAL—The Weird Ideologies Behind Silicon Valley’s Rightward Turn.” As you've noticed the essay has many embedded links to explore and I only quoted about 30%. Link to full piece: The Acronym Behind Our Wildest AI Dreams and Nightmares He's since removed the acronym from his 'X' profile. However, he branded himself with "e/acc"... ...which I think is an abbreviation for "Effective Acceleration" and he too has written an essay stating: "AI will not destroy the world, but in fact may save it." h+ pedia Anyways, if you punch in "TESCREAL beliefs" into the machine you'll get a cauldron brew of links. AI and the threat of "human extinction": What are the tech-bros worried about? It's not you and me I ran the acro through the anagram machine and got: "Care Lest"... "He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." — Friedrich Nietzsche's book "Beyond Good and Evil" So, in brief reading of that quote, it's generally understood to convey the idea that when we engage in battle with evil forces or individuals, we must be careful not to become consumed by the same evil that we are fighting against. The quote also suggests that when we stare into the darkness or the abyss of evil, it has the power to consume us as well. In short, the quote is a warning against becoming too deeply involved in the struggle against evil, as it can lead to becoming consumed by it. On a related note don't take Globalist der Hochklaus von Blohschwab Freiherr von Bomburst und Bloviation and his lackeys at Davos too seriously, else be eaten alive, literally. That club is a round-table of existential nihilists. Quote of the day, directly relevant to the TESCREAL/Technocrat movement, from the philosopher Yehoshua Bar-Hillel (1968, pg 372): "I think that all that talk about the destiny or goals of humanity is seductive talk which scientists should try to oppose. Any such talk will quickly lead to the recognition of somebody who is setting these goals and of a privileged class of people who know from the horse's mouth what these goals are." — "Induction, Physics and Ethics: Proceedings and Discussions of the 1968 Salzburg Colloquium in the Philosophy of Science" by P. Weingartner, G. Zecha. Quote from Frank Herbert's God Emperor of Dune: "What do such machines [AI] really do? They increase the number of things we can do without thinking. Things we do without thinking - there’s the real danger." Ok, I'm now exiting the TESCREAL realm and will leave it to you to dive deeper...or not...and if you do find or trip across anything new, interesting, alarming, bizarre on this AI soup, please add it here to the "Care Lest" thread. Thanks! RE: The Acronym Behind Our Wildest AI Dreams and Nightmares - BIAD - 08-04-2023 Dragon slayers used a lance to rid the kingdoms of such foul beasts, today we can tackle such domination with... RE: The Acronym Behind Our Wildest AI Dreams and Nightmares - Ninurta - 08-04-2023 Some times, I look around myself, at the current state of human society, and I wonder - is there any compelling reason that humanity SHOULD be saved? Is there any real reason it should NOT face extinction? We are, after all and in the final analysis, just another animal on the planet. We may be able to think at a slightly higher level, but we are, as a species, no more altruistic than, for example, dinosaurs or woolly mammoths... and where are THEY now? Humanity has outgrown it's ability to survive. From the actions of a great part of humanity, one might even say it has outgrown it's WILL to survive - humanity has, to a great extent, become suicidal as a species. We hedonistically outbreed the capacity of the planet to provide, and there is no AI possible that can curb that tendency. We edge ever closer to a "hive mind", like bees and ants have - and no one has ever accused any hive-beasts of having an overabundance of intelligence. A hive is only as intelligent as it's dumbest individual member. The rest of the hive is, by necessity, dragged down to that level, the lowest common denominator. I would argue that we are LESS intelligent - from a survival standpoint - than even ants or bees. Ants and bees will go to war against invading ants or bees that try to take over their own hive. Humans, apparently, are lacking in that survival instinct. Ants and bees migrate, to be sure, but they do not attempt to take over another hives patch - not and survive the attempt, anyhow. Then we go on to create the mechanism for our own demise - how is that NOT suicidal? Like an overpopulation of lemmings marching towards a sea cliff, humanity is flirting with disaster in their vain attempts to alleviate their own over-population tendencies. The main difference between ourselves and the dinosaurs is that they did not create their own successors to rule the planet after they were gone. One grenade got them all, and then there were none. Humanity is headed in the same direction, we have just created our own successors... who will in turn meet their own grenade in the end. . |