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No!, You're The VOICE! Aussie 2023 Referendum Talk! - OmegaLogos - 07-25-2023

No!, You're The VOICE! Aussie Referendum Talk!

Disclaimer: I'm a 50yr old gubba [aboriginal word for a white, hence 'government', guy] and I was BORN in Australia ok!

Explanation: There is going to be a federal political referendum on the 1st Nations Indigenous Voice To Parliament in Australia in October 2023.



And I would like to dispell some things about both the Yes  and No campaigns about the Voice To Parliament ...

Firstly here are the online PDF pamphlets for both the Yes and No campaigns sourced from the Australian Electoral Commission ... [CAUTION: It's a PDF file, therefor load at your own risk ok!!!]

https://www.aec.gov.au/referendums/files/pamphlet/your-official-yes-no-referendum-pamphlet.pdf?=v1.0

Personal Disclosure: I have read over 50+ news article about the Voice To Parliament in the past 3 weeks and I have partaken in a 2 hr long philosophical and political debate about it with up to 10 other Australians, held at the Woden Library here in Canberra, 1 week ago.

I AM A HARD NO VOTER! ... And here is why ...

It is this simple ... YOU ARE THE VOICE ... and through your LOCAL FEDERAL MEMBER, you have a say, aka A VOICE, in the FEDERAL AUSTRALIAN PARLIAMENT ALREADY!!!

https://www.directory.gov.au/commonwealth-parliament/members-house-representatives

Quote:What is a federal member?
The term member of parliament generally refers to a member of the House of Representatives, although it can also refer to a senator. To become a member of parliament you need to win a seat in a federal election. There are a number of requirements for enrolling as a candidate in a federal election.

Quote:What does a local member of parliament do?
A Member is expected to be a spokesperson for local interests; an ombudsman and facilitator who deals with concerns about government matters; a law maker; an examiner of the work of the government and how it spends the money it raises from taxation; and a contributor to debates on national issues.

Hence there is NO NEED for the Indigenous Voice In Parliament level of redundancy, that will be limited to indigenous 1st nation people only, dividing the country along racial lines constitutionally forever more!

If that is not working then VOTE THEM OUT OF OFFICE!

“What we need in Canberra is ears, not a Voice.”
(Senator Jacinta Nampijinpa Price, Shadow Minister for Indigenous Australians and Warlpiri woman)

@All-Australians: We're ALL Australians, as covered by and under the Australian Constitution ALREADY! ...

https://www.aph.gov.au/constitution

This is regardless of ones race or culture, as Australia is both defacto multiracial and defacto multicultural in nature!

Some facts ...

Australia was CONSTITUTIONALLY Federated and formed in 1901 not 1788! So anything that happened prior to Federation is not covered by FEDERAL LAW!

Aboriginal and Torres Straight Islanders already receive more than their fair share of Federal tax funds ...

Quote:The Australian Government directly spends around 1.5 times as much on Indigenous people on a per-capita basis, or 1.64 times as much if indirect spending (via transfers to the states and territories) is included (calculation based on IER 2017 supplementary data tables).

https://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/Parliamentary_Departments/Parliamentary_Library/pubs/rp/BudgetReview201920/IndigenousAffairs

Uncle [Former Prime Minister] Kevin Rudd already said SORRY to the Indigenous 1st Nation People, for past racist 'White Australia Policy' Human Rights injustice infractions against Aboriginal and Torres Straight Islanders!

https://www.nma.gov.au/defining-moments/resources/national-apology

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apology_to_Australia%27s_Indigenous_peoples

So to summarize:- You are the VOICE, try and understand that ok ...



Quote:[Verse 1]
We have the chance to turn the pages over
We can write what we want to write
We gotta make ends meet before we get much older

[Pre-Chorus]
We're all someone's daughter
We're all someone's son
How long can we look at each other
Down the barrel of a gun?

[Chorus]
You're the voice, try and understand it
Make a noise and make it clear, oh, woah
We're not gonna sit in silence
We're not gonna live with fear, oh, woah

[Verse 2]
This time, we know we all can stand together
With the power to be powerful
Believing we can make it better

[Pre-Chorus]
Ooh, we're all someone's daughter
We're all someone's son, oh
How long can we look at each other
Down the barrel of a gun?

[Chorus]
You're the voice, try and understand it
Make a noise and make it clear, oh, woah
We're not gonna sit in silence
We're not gonna live with fear, oh, woah

[Pre-Chorus]
Ooh, we're all someone's daughter
We're all someone's son
How long can we look at each other
Down the barrel of a gun?

[Chorus]
You're the voice, try and understand it
Make a noise and make it clear, oh, woah
We're not gonna sit in silence
We're not gonna live with fear, oh, woah
You're the voice, try and understand it
Make a noise and make it clear, oh, woah
We're not gonna sit in silence
We're not gonna live with fear, oh, woah
You're the voice, try and understand it
Make a noise and make it clear, oh, woah
We're not gonna sit in silence
We're not gonna live with fear, oh, woah
You're the voice, try and understand it
Make a noise and make it clear, oh, woah
We're not gonna sit in silence
We're not gonna live with fear, oh, woah

Please deeply consider Voting No! to keep Australia Fair Dinkum ok!

And if you got a big problem please contact your local Federal Member of Parliament and make them listen to you ... and if they don't listen to you, then to hell with them, vote them out at the next Federal election ok!

Smile 

P.S. I wanted to also discuss the clash of cultures that Australia faces but I'll save that for another thread.


RE: No!, You're The VOICE! Aussie 2023 Referendum Talk! - OmegaLogos - 07-25-2023

Explanation: Hey True Blue ...




Personal Disclosure: ...


Quote:Hey True Blue, don't say you've gone
Say you've knocked off for a smoko
And you'll be back later on
Hey True Blue, Hey True Blue

Give it to me straight
Face to face
Are you really disappearing
Just another dying race
Hey True Blue

True Blue, is it me and you?
Is it Mum and Dad, is it a cockatoo?
Is it standing by your mate
When he's in a fight?
Or just Vegemite
True Blue, I'm asking you

Hey True Blue, can you bear the load?
Will you tie it up with wire
Just to keep the show on the road?
Hey True Blue, Hey True Blue, now be Fair Dinkum

Is your heart still there?
If they sell us out like sponge cake
Do you really care?
Hey True Blue

True Blue, is it me and you?
Is it Mum and Dad, is it a cockatoo?
Is it standing by your mate
When she's in a fight?
Or she'll be right
True Blue, I'm asking you

True Blue, is it me and you?
Is it Mum and Dad, is it a cockatoo?
Is it standing by your mate
When he's in a fight?
Or she'll be right
True Blue ... True Blue


Smile

Explanation: Black Fella, White Fella ...




Personal Disclosure: ...


Quote:Black fella, white fella
It doesn't matter what your color
As long as you a real fella
As long as you a true fella
All the people of different races
With different lives in different places
It doesn't matter what your name is
We got to have lots of changes
We need more brothers if we're to make it
We need more sisters if we're to save it
Are you the one who's gonna stand up and be counted?
Are you the one who's gonna be there when we shout it?
Are you the one who's always ready with a helping hand?
Are you the one who understands this family plan?
Black fella, white fella, yella fella, any fella
It doesn't matter what your color
As long as you a true fella
All the people of different races
With different lives in different places
It doesn't matter which religion
It's all the same when the ship is sinking
We need more brothers if we're to make it
We need more sisters if we're to save it
Are you the one who's gonna stand up and be counted?
Are you the one who's gonna be there when we shout it?
Are you the one who's always ready with a helping hand?
Are you the one who understands this family plan?
Stand up, stand up and be counted
Stand up, stand up and be counted
Stand up, stand up and be counted
Are you the one who's going to stand up and be counted
Stand up, stand up and be counted
Stand up, stand up and be counted
Are you the one who's always ready with a helping hand?
Are you the one who understands this family plan?


Smile


RE: No!, You're The VOICE! Aussie 2023 Referendum Talk! - Bally002 - 07-25-2023

The run up to the "Voice" referendum has already divided the nation.  

The aftermath whether 'yes' or 'no' will never be accepted by either side.  This stupid referendum has turned neighbours upon one another.  It will go on for decades now.

Meanwhile Albanese (PM) fly's around the world.  What an idiot!

I'm hoping "NO" means "NO".  But this PM has sown the seeds and flys out when things get hot.  He should have stuck to being a DJ.  

This man just does not care about the down to earth people that underpin this nation.

I'm tired of paying for his free rent, jetting, beers, wines, food and that of his family.  Meanwhile we have to skimp to support this extravagant lifestyle let alone support the "Voice".  What a load of rainbow serpent flag waving crap.

This may mean nothing to our international sisters and brothers on this site as they have their own pains but it's an indication of what is occurring around the western world. 

Vote "No' by all accounts but like that stupid apology it will never end.

Kind regards,

Bally)


RE: No!, You're The VOICE! Aussie 2023 Referendum Talk! - OmegaLogos - 07-25-2023

(07-25-2023, 09:23 AM)Bally002 Wrote: The run up to the "Voice" referendum has already divided the nation.  

The aftermath whether 'yes' or 'no' will never be accepted by either side.  This stupid referendum has turned neighbours upon one another.  It will go on for decades now.

Meanwhile Albanese (PM) fly's around the world.  What an idiot!

I'm hoping "NO" means "NO".  But this PM has sown the seeds and flys out when things get hot.  He should have stuck to being a DJ.  

This man just does not care about the down to earth people that underpin this nation.

I'm tired of paying for his free rent, jetting, beers, wines, food and that of his family.  Meanwhile we have to skimp to support this extravagant lifestyle let alone support the "Voice".  What a load of rainbow serpent flag waving crap.

This may mean nothing to our international sisters and brothers on this site as they have their own pains but it's an indication of what is occurring around the western world. 

Vote "No' by all accounts but like that stupid apology it will never end.

Kind regards,

Bally)

Explanation: I agree with you, and so do other aussie's ...

Reconciliation may be set back a ‘decade or more’ if Yes side advocacy fails to ramp up

Quote:Mr Kenny warned if the Yes side does not become more vocal, reconciliation could be set backwards a “decade or more”.

“It’s no good complaining about the fear campaign – that’s just politics,” he said.

“You have to counter it with positive, strong information of your own.

“Albanese needs to get his act together or risk going down in history as the Prime Minister who killed the voice.”

Support for Anthony Albanese's govt plunges

Quote:Labor's primary vote has fallen to 36 per cent
Support has risen for minor parties and independents
Support for Labor is at its lowest since the 2022 election, although the Opposition has failed to reap the benefits as voters swing to independents and minor parties, according to the latest Newspoll.

Quote:Australians appear to be pulling their support from the major parties to express their frustration over their politicking over the commission's findings and The Voice to Parliament, instead focusing on the cost of living crisis.

The survey showed a three-point rise in support for minor parties and independents.

Personal Disclosure: I invite our international brothers and sisters to weigh in on this issue as it is a multiracial and multicultural issue ok!

What are your views and possible solutions eh?

Please help Australia Reconcile!



Quote:I came from the dream-time
From the dusty red-soil plains
I am the ancient heart
The keeper of the flame
I stood upon the rocky shores
I watched the tall ships come
For forty thousand years I've been
The first Australian
I came upon the prison ship
Bowed down by iron chains
I fought the land, endured the lash
And waited for the rains
I'm a settler, I'm a farmer's wife
On a dry and barren run
A convict, then a free man
I became Australian
I'm the daughter of a digger
Who sought the mother lode
The girl became a woman
On the long and dusty road
I'm a child of the Depression
I saw the good times come
I'm a bushie, I'm a battler
I am Australian
We are one, but we are many
And from all the lands on earth we come
We'll share a dream and sing with one voice
"I am, you are, we are Australian"
I'm a teller of stories
I'm a singer of songs
I am Albert Namatjira
And I paint the ghostly gums
I'm Clancy on his horse
I'm Ned Kelly on the run
I'm the one who waltzed Matilda
I am Australian
I'm the hot wind from the desert
I'm the black soil of the plains
I'm the mountains and the valleys
I'm the drought and flooding rains
I am the rock, I am the sky
The rivers when they run
The spirit of this great land
I am Australian
We are one, but we are many
And from all the lands on earth we come
We'll share a dream and sing with one voice
"I am, you are, we are Australian"
We are one, but we are many
And from all the lands on earth we come
We'll share a dream and sing with one voice
"I am, you are, we are Australian"
"I am, you are, we are Australian"

Smile


RE: No!, You're The VOICE! Aussie 2023 Referendum Talk! - p358 - 07-26-2023

It will pass because Aussies vote but someone else with nefarious intent counts the votes.

There are no safeguards in this country.

This is WEF engineered to divide, divide, and divide some more.

What would we end up with, a lone shrill voice amongst the many.

Nah mate.

Supposedly, every Aussie has a voice in Parliament.

Does this entire saga indicate that that voice has no real effect.  Yes it does.

No one in Australia has any real voice.

PSmile


RE: No!, You're The VOICE! Aussie 2023 Referendum Talk! - 727Sky - 07-26-2023

(07-26-2023, 05:26 AM)p358 Wrote: It will pass because Aussies vote but someone else with nefarious intent counts the votes.

There are no safeguards in this country.

This is WEF engineered to divide, divide, and divide some more.

What would we end up with, a lone shrill voice amongst the many.

Nah mate.

Supposedly, every Aussie has a voice in Parliament.

Does this entire saga indicate that that voice has no real effect.  Yes it does.

No one in Australia has any real voice.

PSmile

Yep it does not matter who votes for what it only matters who is counting the vote. Many Americans found that out the last election IMO.


RE: No!, You're The VOICE! Aussie 2023 Referendum Talk! - Bally002 - 07-26-2023

(07-26-2023, 06:49 AM)727Sky Wrote:
(07-26-2023, 05:26 AM)p358 Wrote: It will pass because Aussies vote but someone else with nefarious intent counts the votes.

There are no safeguards in this country.

This is WEF engineered to divide, divide, and divide some more.

What would we end up with, a lone shrill voice amongst the many.

Nah mate.

Supposedly, every Aussie has a voice in Parliament.

Does this entire saga indicate that that voice has no real effect.  Yes it does.

No one in Australia has any real voice.

PSmile

Yep it does not matter who votes for what it only matters who is counting the vote. Many Americans found that out the last election IMO.

Well said both.  Can't follow this as the premise disgusts me.  Akin to reparations regardless of the billions and apologies pumped into to a reckless mindset.  When the historic statues and landmarks begin toppling then we'll know (as if we don't already know) we've followed the states mindset into that lax stupidity where the shoring of common sense is eroded to the extent of collapse. 

Our PM, aka, "Crikey the clown" will not back off.  He'd rather see the Opera House sink into the harbor than admit the 'Voice' will divide the nation.  

My regards,

Bally(I want our Bushmasters and APC's returned from Ukraine)

Interesting to see 'guests' present.