(10-22-2023, 08:52 PM)EndtheMadnessNow Wrote: Warlog Update for Sunday, Oct 22::

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In an interview with Sky News, Israeli President Herzog revealed that Hamas planned to use chemical weapons against the Israeli civilians. Oh boy, another hunt for WMD's is brewing.

(10-22-2023, 09:38 PM)putnam6 Wrote: ...

Hell Syria is going to pop first, all it will take now is American soldiers getting killed somewhere

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(10-23-2023, 12:41 PM)Ninurta Wrote:

(10-22-2023, 09:38 PM)putnam6 Wrote: ...

Hell Syria is going to pop first, all it will take now is American soldiers getting killed somewhere

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I can't say much about it, but I do know there are already U.S. troops and French troops, at least, on the ground at points inside Israel. I would guess that there are other nationalities present as well, but don't know that for fact.

We also have about 2000 marines, soon to be either 4 or 6 thousand, sitting and waiting o9n ship board there.

We also have Turkey making not-so-veiled threats against our naval assets in the eastern Mediterranean, which really gripes my ass, those ungrateful bastards.

The powder keg is packed and fused. All they need now is for some dumbass to strike a match, and the Middle east is chock full of dumbasses.

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Quote:Initially tasked with defending Saudi Arabia from Iraqi aggression, Schwarzkopf's command eventually grew to an international force of over 750,000 troops. After diplomatic relations broke down, he planned and led Operation Desert Storm, an extended air campaign followed by a highly successful 100-hour ground offensive, which defeated the Iraqi Army and removed Iraqi troops from Kuwait in early 1991.

(10-08-2023, 08:52 AM)Ninurta Wrote:

(10-08-2023, 04:01 AM)MisterSpock Wrote:

(10-08-2023, 03:55 AM)Infolurker Wrote:

(10-08-2023, 12:34 AM)Ninurta Wrote: Iran needs to be hit. 

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Iran did get hit.... with a check for 6 Billion to fund this $hit.

It's weird how we fund Israel, fund iran, and leave all that military equipment behind in the region.

Wars cost money, too bad we leave all that money laying around and wonder why all this happens.

I know, right? If they just wanted to give tht stuff away like that, there are a lot of fed-up people on the border, in New Mexico, Arizona, and Texas, who could have profitably used it to form militias to do what the US government is refusing to do.

And if they wanted to give 6 billion away, I know a lot of destitute people in Appalachian hollers - in the US - who could have used their slice of that.

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(10-23-2023, 08:08 PM)putnam6 Wrote: ...All kinds of mixed signals which is it? DoD and the MSM is Iran pulling the strings or not?

(10-23-2023, 04:48 PM)CoyoteAngel Wrote:

(10-08-2023, 08:52 AM)Ninurta Wrote:

(10-08-2023, 04:01 AM)MisterSpock Wrote:

(10-08-2023, 03:55 AM)Infolurker Wrote:

(10-08-2023, 12:34 AM)Ninurta Wrote: Iran needs to be hit. 

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Iran did get hit.... with a check for 6 Billion to fund this $hit.

It's weird how we fund Israel, fund iran, and leave all that military equipment behind in the region.

Wars cost money, too bad we leave all that money laying around and wonder why all this happens.

I know, right? If they just wanted to give tht stuff away like that, there are a lot of fed-up people on the border, in New Mexico, Arizona, and Texas, who could have profitably used it to form militias to do what the US government is refusing to do.

And if they wanted to give 6 billion away, I know a lot of destitute people in Appalachian hollers - in the US - who could have used their slice of that.

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Having worked in military logistics applications for a time during Iraq/Afghanistan wars, it turns out its more expensive to bring the stuff back than leave it.   For numerous reasons.    

A big reason:   the stuff won't fit back in the box.   After all the parts and stuff are taken out of their meticulously compartmentalized logically laid out shipping containers, they will NEVER go back in straight.   Military personal will just load them everwhich way until nothing else fits.   Try sorting that mess out when it gets back to the warehouse!   Nope, not worth it.   

Vehicles:   we do try to bring those back, at least we did nearly 10 years ago when I retired after the Iraq drawdown.  We gave tons of mraps to local police and sheriffs depts.   Some say thats a good thing, others say it isnt.   I'd prefer to see them on the border, and I sorta think some might be.  Smaller desert type dune capable vehicles.  Unless Biden has managed to give them to the cartels somehow. 

Biden admin seems to have just said 'whatever.....' without much thought to it at all, too hard to figure out.

(10-23-2023, 08:12 PM)BIAD Wrote:

(10-23-2023, 08:08 PM)putnam6 Wrote: ...All kinds of mixed signals which is it? DoD and the MSM is Iran pulling the strings or not?

Word-sorcery by the MSM and a light sprinkling from those in the know.

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The Islamic Resistance in Iraq has indeed now claimed Responsibility for the Drone Attacks within the last Hour on U.S. Operations Bases near the Al-Omar Oil Fields and the Town of Al-Shaddadi both in Eastern Syria.

(10-23-2023, 09:40 PM)putnam6 Wrote: Well semi-good news but he doesn't say how many. Regardless it seems Hamas miscalculated here, Im not certain Israel relents just yet. 



of course, that kind of shit happens when top Hamas operatives and allies are getting shot in the streets of Gaza, by "unknown" gunmen.

SO WHO ARE THESE unknown gunmen? Other Palestinian terrorist factions, pissed-off Gazans, Israeli Special Forces... Inquiring minds want to know. Would be really interesting if the leaders were getting dirt-napped by the regular Palestinians 

Quote:The Four Questions The U.S. Military Should Be Asking About Operation Swords of Iron

For American military observers of this conflict, this war, much like previous Israeli wars, will likely yield a host of lessons. And while it is still too early to say precisely what those lessons are— much less to what degree, if any, the United States military will internalize them — it is not too early to identify the right questions to be asking as the conflict unfolds. And while there is an almost infinite number of areas one could explore, there are at least four big questions that the U.S. military should be asking itself as it watches this war in Gaza unfold.

What Are the Roots of Strategic Surprise?

As a starting point, perhaps the most fundamental question to be asking is how Hamas was able to pull off an attack of the scale seen on Oct. 7, 2023, seemingly without any Israel gaining advanced warning or much in the way of effective response. The fact that Hamas was able to gain such strategic surprise at all is shocking, given Israel’s many advantages: a state of the art, billion dollar border wall, equipped with a range of sensors; a host of (until now) well-regarded and sophisticated intelligence services; and the inherent advantage the comes from looking at the same small piece of ground, controlled by the same adversary for decades, right next door.

Quote:Hubris meets nemesis in Israel

Many have expressed surprise that Hamas so easily penetrated Israel’s defences along the border with Gaza. But there were no such defences. When Hamas began slaughtering hundreds of defenceless civilians, Israel’s glorious army was mostly deployed elsewhere. Many were assigned to the West Bank to protect religious settlers in clashes (sometimes initiated by the settlers themselves) with local Palestinians, and in festivals around invented holy shrines. For long hours, desperate men and women cried for help, and the strongest army in the Middle East was nowhere to be seen.

The assumption was always that Gaza was not a vital priority. The underground wall of sensors and fortified concrete that Israel has built around the enclave was supposed to block the tunnels through which Hamas tried in the past to penetrate Israeli border villages. It was of no use. Hamas militias simply stormed the fences on the surface.

There was no intelligence about Hamas’s intentions, either. The ‘start-up nation’, whose sophisticated cyber units can detect the movement of a leaf in a tree in an Iranian base in Syria, knew nothing of Hamas’s plans. Israel’s obsession with Iran’s possible nuclear breakout and its internal security services’ focus on the occupied West Bank partly explain this negligence.

The attack by Hamas was not just a tactical surprise, but also a strategic bombshell.

Quote:Dealing with Hamas in Gaza puts Israel in a strategic quandary: It needs to exert enough force to deter Hamas from attacking but not so much that it topples the regime.

Iron Dome is a blessing because it buys Israel time, but Israel needs an excuse for why they are killing Palestinians in operations. When Iron Dome works so well and so few Israelis die, Israel loses the justification for the operation.
- Senior Israeli policymaker

(10-23-2023, 08:16 PM)putnam6 Wrote:

(10-23-2023, 04:48 PM)CoyoteAngel Wrote:

(10-08-2023, 08:52 AM)Ninurta Wrote:

(10-08-2023, 04:01 AM)MisterSpock Wrote:

(10-08-2023, 03:55 AM)Infolurker Wrote: Iran did get hit.... with a check for 6 Billion to fund this $hit.

It's weird how we fund Israel, fund iran, and leave all that military equipment behind in the region.

Wars cost money, too bad we leave all that money laying around and wonder why all this happens.

I know, right? If they just wanted to give tht stuff away like that, there are a lot of fed-up people on the border, in New Mexico, Arizona, and Texas, who could have profitably used it to form militias to do what the US government is refusing to do.

And if they wanted to give 6 billion away, I know a lot of destitute people in Appalachian hollers - in the US - who could have used their slice of that.

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Having worked in military logistics applications for a time during Iraq/Afghanistan wars, it turns out its more expensive to bring the stuff back than leave it.   For numerous reasons.    

A big reason:   the stuff won't fit back in the box.   After all the parts and stuff are taken out of their meticulously compartmentalized logically laid out shipping containers, they will NEVER go back in straight.   Military personal will just load them everwhich way until nothing else fits.   Try sorting that mess out when it gets back to the warehouse!   Nope, not worth it.   

Vehicles:   we do try to bring those back, at least we did nearly 10 years ago when I retired after the Iraq drawdown.  We gave tons of mraps to local police and sheriffs depts.   Some say thats a good thing, others say it isnt.   I'd prefer to see them on the border, and I sorta think some might be.  Smaller desert type dune capable vehicles.  Unless Biden has managed to give them to the cartels somehow. 

Biden admin seems to have just said 'whatever.....' without much thought to it at all, too hard to figure out.

Respectfully then destroy them, at least make an effort. 

A 1/4 cup of sugar in the gas tank would have done wonders for every motorized vehicle. So many easy ways to trash it so it can't be used again or against American troops. 

Atleast make it more difficult than they did

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(10-23-2023, 08:12 PM)BIAD Wrote:

(10-23-2023, 08:08 PM)putnam6 Wrote: ...All kinds of mixed signals which is it? DoD and the MSM is Iran pulling the strings or not?

Word-sorcery by the MSM and a light sprinkling from those in the know.

Yes, no doubt and it's likely they want confusion. In my searches this afternoon reports Biden said he was heading to the situation room, then a little later officials say its just a regular update.

Here's where we are at, 3 American bases were attacked, and Iran's thoughts...reading between the lines Iran won't mobilize but it will not stop other factions from taking potshots at American troops. 



https://x.com/sentdefender/status/1716554884273598666?s=20

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The Islamic Resistance in Iraq has indeed now claimed Responsibility for the Drone Attacks within the last Hour on U.S. Operations Bases near the Al-Omar Oil Fields and the Town of Al-Shaddadi both in Eastern Syria.

Quote:In previous admins we DID destroy what useable items we left behind when we pulled out.  Biden?  Probably not.

(10-23-2023, 04:48 PM)CoyoteAngel Wrote: ...

Vehicles:   we do try to bring those back, at least we did nearly 10 years ago when I retired after the Iraq drawdown.  We gave tons of mraps to local police and sheriffs depts.   Some say thats a good thing, others say it isnt.   I'd prefer to see them on the border, and I sorta think some might be.  Smaller desert type dune capable vehicles.  Unless Biden has managed to give them to the cartels somehow. 

Biden admin seems to have just said 'whatever.....' without much thought to it at all, too hard to figure out.

(10-24-2023, 07:39 PM)Ninurta Wrote:

(10-23-2023, 04:48 PM)CoyoteAngel Wrote: ...

Vehicles:   we do try to bring those back, at least we did nearly 10 years ago when I retired after the Iraq drawdown.  We gave tons of mraps to local police and sheriffs depts.   Some say thats a good thing, others say it isnt.   I'd prefer to see them on the border, and I sorta think some might be.  Smaller desert type dune capable vehicles.  Unless Biden has managed to give them to the cartels somehow. 

Biden admin seems to have just said 'whatever.....' without much thought to it at all, too hard to figure out.

Yeah, DHS loaded up the locals with that stuff. The big city of Grundy (population probably around 500 - saaaa-lute!) got their very own MRAP that sat for a long time in a gravel lot across from the PD just gathering dust, and the big city of Lebanon (population around 3000 - saaa-lute! With a police force of 4 officers) got around 760 M-16's to sit around gathering dust. They could have put that stuff to better use down on the Texas border.

Once upon a time, what couldn't be exfiltrated from a country we were pulling out of got the Willie Peter treatment so that it couldn't ever be turned against us. No more, it seems.

We left a a few hundred thousand M-16's in Vietnam when we pulled out, and 10 years down the road we started seeing those serial numbers in Nicaragua and El Salvador.

You've got to wonder how much of that stuff we left laying around in a cash-strapped Afghanistan is going to turn up in the hands of the likes of Hamas now....

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Quote:France's Macron wants international coalition against Hamas

JERUSALEM, Oct 24 (Reuters) - French President Emmanuel Macron proposed on Tuesday that an international coalition fighting Islamic State in Iraq and Syria widens its scope to include the fight against the Palestinian militant group Hamas in Gaza.

Macron gave no details on how the U.S.-led coalition of dozens of countries, of which Israel is not a member, could be involved. His advisers said, however, that the coalition's participation would not necessarily imply boots on the ground, but could include intelligence-sharing.

Macron, who warned against the risks of a regional conflict, also said the fight against Hamas "must be without mercy but not without rules".

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu did not directly comment on Macron's proposal but said the fight was a battle between the "axis of evil" and "the free world".

"This battle is not merely our own... it's everybody's battle," he said.

(10-25-2023, 07:57 AM)A51Watcher2 Wrote:

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Turkish leader Recep Tayyip Erdogan: "Hamas is not a terrorist group but rather a group of fighters defending their homeland."


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