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RE: Interstellar visitor - Kenzo1 - 11-15-2025 (11-15-2025, 07:22 PM)Ninurta Wrote: A paper defining the "Loeb Scale" can be found here . Seems like Eldadi has 1 published paper about Extraterrestrial Intelligence Communication , other stuf he has done is sport related....which is pretty far from any UFO stuf . I dont see much reason for human psychology at this point, if any. He , Loeb and the third guy seems to allways do together things, research papers. No outsiders... Omer Eldadi RE: Interstellar visitor - Ninurta - 11-15-2025 I read the paper on "The Loeb Scale" and had only a couple of further thoughts: 1) Loeb seems to place an inordinate stress on "non-gravitational acceleration", when it seems more likely that non-gravitational DECELERATION would be more cause for concern. They would have to decelerate to rendezvous with Earth either for an invasion or peaceful contact. Accelerating will just harmlessly fling them right out of the solar system, back into the black once again. 2) ALL 3 of the highest levels of the scale, which encompass confirmed technological origin, concern themselves mostly with the likelihood and magnitude of an Earth impact. Why would aliens travel for thousands of years in generational starships just to drive them into the Earth in a suicide mission? Even Heinlein's "Bugs" in Starship Troopers flung regular, run of the mill natural asteroids at Earth as weapons - they didn't send any technologically enhanced marvels. Why bother with that when simply chucking a rock would do? . RE: Interstellar visitor - Ninurta - 11-15-2025 (11-15-2025, 08:02 PM)Kenzo1 Wrote: Seems like Eldadi has 1 published paper about Extraterrestrial Intelligence Communication , other stuf he has done is sport related....which is pretty far from any UFO stuf . I dont see much reason for human psychology at this point, if any. Me either, unless they were just running a psychological operation on... humans. However, based upon his research papers, Eldadi seems to have no, or very little, expertise in that area, either. Life is a mystery! . RE: Interstellar visitor - F2d5thCav - 11-16-2025 (11-15-2025, 07:22 PM)Ninurta Wrote: ETA: I also found this to be of interest: I find it odd there is a university in Israel named Reich-man. ![]()
RE: Interstellar visitor - babushka - 11-17-2025 Loeb, reminds of an eel for some reason. I think it's the grin he always has RE: Interstellar visitor - Kenzo1 - 11-17-2025 This Loeb guy i am getting Anthony Fauci vibes from him
RE: Interstellar visitor - F2d5thCav - 11-17-2025 (11-17-2025, 02:53 PM)Kenzo1 Wrote: This Loeb guy Yeah, in the media too much for a scientist. Not a good look.
RE: Interstellar visitor - Kenzo1 - 11-18-2025 Is NASA finally ready ? NASA to Share Comet 3I/ATLAS Images From Spacecraft, Telescopes Quote:NASA will host a live event at 3 p.m. EST, Wednesday, Nov. 19, to share imagery of the interstellar comet 3I/ATLAS collected by a number of the agency’s missions. The event will take place at NASA’s Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Maryland. RE: Interstellar visitor - F2d5thCav - 11-18-2025 Why does NASA need a media circus to release the photos ? Too much PR. WAY too much PR. I wish Trump would give that agency a kick in the butt and fire half of their management.
RE: Interstellar visitor - Kenzo1 - 11-19-2025 According to to NASA , atlas is just comet and nothingburger.....they only release boring pictures it seems . RE: Interstellar visitor - babushka - 11-19-2025 I still don't understand why this was hyped up, the herd mentally is painfull to witness. Wilful ignorance of physics throughout and far out from anything related to UFO's. Why do we ignore everything that has come before? RE: Interstellar visitor - gortex - 11-20-2025 NASA released the HiRISE image from Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter yesterday but it's a bit blurred due to "spacecraft jitter" during the 3.2 second observation period , because of course there was. Quote:In this 3.2 second exposure, HiRISE successfully detected 3I/ATLAS at a scale of 30 km/pixel and a spacecraft distance of roughly 30 million kilometers (19 million miles). However, MRO is not well-suited to exposures of this length. The nucleus, estimated from Hubble Space Telescope images to be at most a few kilometers across, cannot be resolved in our HiRISE image. ![]()
RE: Interstellar visitor - Ninurta - 11-20-2025 Yeah. That "spacecraft jitter" is a real bitch, a real pain in the ass, isn't it? I hate it when that happens! Looking at the image, I think they probably missed the target, anyhow. It looks more like a London streetlight on a really foggy night to me. Hard to get those spacecraft aimed just right once they get to "jittering".... maybe a Xanax would help calm it's jittery nerves? It's getting harder and harder to find good solid spacecraft with nerves of steel these days... I kind of figured that anything coming out of NASA would be... less than optimal... considering the length of government shutdown time they had to "improve" it while blaming the shutdown for the delayed release. I mean, seriously - how hard could it be to click a couple of buttons to locate a photo and upload it to a website template that was created long ago? I'd have done it for them for free if they would have just gotten security to unlock the door for me for about 2 minutes. . RE: Interstellar visitor - gortex - 11-23-2025 A new 3I/Atlas anomaly has been discovered and it would seem the Interstellar Object could be targeted at Jupiter , the measured non-gravitational acceleration post perihelium has altered Atlas's trajectory so it will come within Jupiter's gravitational influence , the Hill sphere , without the non-gravitational acceleration Atlas would have missed it. Quote:The measured value of the non-gravitational acceleration of 3I/ATLAS, acquired during the month-long passage of 3I/ATLAS near perihelion, changed the value of min{D} at a level of 0.1 million kilometers. This magnitude of displacement in the minimum distance of 3I/ATLAS from Jupiter results from the measured non-gravitational acceleration value of 5x10^{-7} au per day squared as reported here, after the month-long perihelion crossing (where au is the Earth-Sun separation). Quote:How statistically rare is the coincidence between the values of min{D} and H? A margin of 0.06 out of 53.5 million kilometers corresponds to a coincidence of one part in a thousand. But given the full diameter of Jupiter’s orbit around the Sun, this coincidence amounts to one part in 26,000. 13 anomalies from 1 object ..... I'm sure it's just a Comet with no tail.
RE: Interstellar visitor - babushka - 11-23-2025 Nice, they are going to setup shop on one of the moons. RE: Interstellar visitor - gortex - 12-05-2025 A post-Perihelion picture of 3I/Atlas has been released which was taken by the Hubble space telescope on November 30th showing the scale of object's coma and the nucleus within. ![]() Quote:The interstellar visitor 3I/ATLAS was reobserved by the Hubble Space Telescope from a distance of 286 million kilometers on November 30, 2025, a month after its closest approach to the Sun (perihelion). The image shows a teardrop-shaped glowing halo that extends towards the Sun. This sunward anti-tail extension was also apparent in the pre-perihelion Hubble image of 3I/ATLAS, taken on July 21, 2025, as 3I/ATLAS was approaching the Sun from a distance that is 56% larger from Earth. The new radius of the glow is about 40,000 kilometers and its anti-tail extension goes out to about 60,000 kilometers. Just 13 days till its closest pass of Earth. RE: Interstellar visitor - Kenzo1 - 12-05-2025 (12-05-2025, 05:34 PM)gortex Wrote: A post-Perihelion picture of 3I/Atlas has been released which was taken by the Hubble space telescope on November 30th showing the scale of object's coma and the nucleus within. If the pictures are not getting any better, i will be dissapointed . To me the images we seen are grainy low quality dots that tell`s absolutely not much, or not enough . RE: Interstellar visitor - gortex - 12-05-2025 I guess there are limitations in using a telescope designed to see things very far away looking at something not that far away mate , while the MRO image from the Mars pass was disappointing at least in this Hubble image we can see what is contained within the bright glow other images have shown giving a chance to get a Spectrum analysis of the light emitted. Hopefully NASA are moving Juno out to take a look at Atlas when it makes its closer than expected pass of Jupiter next Spring , it beats just crashing it into Jupiter. RE: Interstellar visitor - gortex - 12-14-2025 New images of Atlas this time from a telescope in Rayong, Thailand , the object will make its closest pass of Earth on Friday , I'll be getting my frankincense and myrrh on Thursday in preparation. ![]() ![]() Quote:Whereas an anti-tail had been seen for solar system comets as a temporary perspective effect when the Earth crossed the comets’ orbital plane, this is clearly not the case with 3I/ATLAS. The anti-tail was apparent in the first Hubble Space Telescope image, taken on July 21, 2025, when 3I/ATLAS was approaching the Sun from a geocentric distance of 2.98 times the Earth-Sun separation (AU) — as reported here and analyzed here, and was also apparent in the second Hubble image taken on November 30, 2025, when 3I/ATLAS was receding away from the Sun at a distance of 1.91 AU from Earth — as reported here. The anti-tail was also apparent in thousands of images taken in between these dates. RE: Interstellar visitor - Kenzo1 - 12-19-2025 3I/ATLAS is at its closest point to Earth TODAY December 19, 2025 . Feel anything ?
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