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RE: Reform UK Just Destroyed the Uni Party - UK Fights Back - gortex - 12-19-2025 Former Conservative MP Sir Jacob William Rees-Mogg compares Starmer to King Charles I who ended up losing his head and cautions Tory councillors on voting to further delay the voice of the people. It's beyond time our current Monarch stood up and told Starmer enough is enough , pretty sure his mother wouldn't be pleased. RE: Reform UK Just Destroyed the Uni Party - UK Fights Back - gortex - 12-20-2025 (12-19-2025, 06:09 PM)gortex Wrote: After "postponing" 4 Mayoral elections which Reform would likely have won Labour are now asking councils who "postponed" their elections earlier this year (including mine) if they would like to "postpone" them again next May due to the reorganisation that caused this years "postponement" because they are terrified of Reform , both Tory and Labour councillors wil no doubt jump at the chance to extend their term at the trough another year Democracy be damned. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- British government watchdog the Electoral Commission has signalled its displeasure at Starmer's anti-democratic decision to offer councils the opportunity not to hold elections next year in their attempt to stop Reform. Quote:The chief executive of the Electoral Commission, Vijay Rangarajan, hit out at the announcement on Friday, saying he was "concerned" that some elections could be postponed, with some having already been deferred from 2025. Not sure what teeth the commission has in circumstances like this but the words of Mr Rangarajan are food for thought for the government over their Christmas break , fear of election results are no reason to deny people their right to vote. Think on Starmer you Fascist Bastard ... I await the knock on my door.
RE: Reform UK Just Destroyed the Uni Party - UK Fights Back - Ninurta - 12-20-2025 It seems a pretty clear conflict of interest to allow ANY governing body to "postpone" elections in which it is their own jobs on the line. In a nation nominal run supposedly by the governed, it should be clear that any such decision, if the governors determined it might be a necessity, to get the final decision directly from the people who are supposed to be running the country - the citizenry. Therefore, the only legitimate way to do it would be to put that measure, by itself, up for a vote... a referendum of the People being herded into the chutes. On the other hand,something like this might be expected in a country where citizens can be jailed for simply speaking their mind out loud, or jailed for being photographed simply holding a rifle in another country, etc. When a people start willingly allowing their overlords to incrementally curtail their basic freedoms, there is but one end it will ever come to if left to run unchecked, and the eventuality of them losing their voices entirely, even at the ballot box, is but the next step along that progression to totalitarianism. I'd say the slide started probably with something simple like a tax for merely owning a television, regardless of whether said television was ever even actually turned on or not.... ... but all such slides have to start somewhere, and it's usually somewhere small. It snowballs as it rolls down hill until it eventually steamrolls everything and everyone in it's path. It's high time this slide was stopped. If a referendum on the issue were to be denied, the next step on the part of the People should involve pitchforks and torches. Firearms, knives, and bludgeons of course would be out of the question - those ships have already sailed. . RE: Reform UK Just Destroyed the Uni Party - UK Fights Back - gortex - 12-20-2025 This is the worst government I can remember in my 60 years of living here mate , all politicians lie usually through statistics but this bunch of fascists lie blatantly without a care , Starmer even lied to Trump about free speech and the population by saying we wouldn't be returning to the EU while returning us to the EU , pledging not to raise our taxes while raising our taxes to pay for the foreign invaders was also sick kick in the nuts for working Brits. I fear Starmer and the EU want to take us to war with Russia in an attempt to save their positions , it worked for Thatcher in the Falklands war when she was facing defeat but was re-elected when we beat Argentina to retain the islands , at best it would give him an excuse to "postpone" the next General Election due to war and at worst , well I think we all see the dangers there. I and millions of other right thinking Brits are at the end of our tether , civil disobedience and direct action are in the offering next year made more likely by this latest attack on our Democratic rights , this will be a fight for our very survival and that of our once Great Country .... we will prevail. I know times are changing when even my straight laced non-political sister is considering voting Reform UK. This revolution will be televised , stay tuned. RE: Reform UK Just Destroyed the Uni Party - UK Fights Back - 727Sky - 12-20-2025 (12-20-2025, 11:31 AM)gortex Wrote: This is the worst government I can remember in my 60 years of living here mate , all politicians lie usually through statistics but this bunch of fascists lie blatantly without a care , Starmer even lied to Trump about free speech and the population by saying we wouldn't be returning to the EU while returning us to the EU , pledging not to raise our taxes while raising our taxes to pay for the foreign invaders was also sick kick in the nuts for working Brits. Quote: RE: Reform UK Just Destroyed the Uni Party - UK Fights Back - Kenzo1 - 12-20-2025 (12-20-2025, 09:25 AM)gortex Wrote:(12-19-2025, 06:09 PM)gortex Wrote: After "postponing" 4 Mayoral elections which Reform would likely have won Labour are now asking councils who "postponed" their elections earlier this year (including mine) if they would like to "postpone" them again next May due to the reorganisation that caused this years "postponement" because they are terrified of Reform , both Tory and Labour councillors wil no doubt jump at the chance to extend their term at the trough another year Democracy be damned. 1984 vibes RE: Reform UK Just Destroyed the Uni Party - UK Fights Back - gortex - 12-20-2025 Quote:1984 vibes More than vibes mate Starmer seems to be using the book as a "How To" manual. Freedom is slavery Comrade. RE: Reform UK Just Destroyed the Uni Party - UK Fights Back - 727Sky - 12-21-2025 RE: Reform UK Just Destroyed the Uni Party - UK Fights Back - gortex - 12-22-2025 Liberal Democrat leader Sir Ed Davey has written to the British Equalities and Human Rights Commission over Starmer's cowardly plan to deny millions of people , including myself , their right to vote in next May's local Elections, fear of losing is no excuse to deny people their right to vote. Quote:In his letter, Sir Ed said: "Article 3 of the first protocol of the Human Rights Act spells out in black and white the right to free elections. As a former Human rights lawyer and investigation into him by the HRC will probably give Starmer sleepless nights even though he is a Despotic charmless Bastard. If the HRC decide not to investigate Labour's Anti-Democratic plan it will prove what we already suspect , we don't have any rights to vote in our own Country anymore. RE: Reform UK Just Destroyed the Uni Party - UK Fights Back - F2d5thCav - 12-22-2025 gortex-- us plebians aren't supposed to make problems for them. ![]()
RE: Reform UK Just Destroyed the Uni Party - UK Fights Back - gortex - 12-24-2025 A Christmas message from Nigel Farage in his constituency. A Christmas message from some other bloke in front of a green screen. I watched some of the other bloke's speech but threw up a little in my mouth so had to stop , I'm sure it's thrilling though.
RE: Reform UK Just Destroyed the Uni Party - UK Fights Back - Ninurta - 12-24-2025 (12-22-2025, 05:48 PM)gortex Wrote: Liberal Democrat leader Sir Ed Davey has written to the British Equalities and Human Rights Commission over Starmer's cowardly plan to deny millions of people , including myself , their right to vote in next May's local Elections, fear of losing is no excuse to deny people their right to vote. Indeed, fear of losing an election is NOT a valid reason to eliminate elections. "Fear of losing" is, in fact, the very REASON for elections - the ballot box is the citizens first resort, their first line of defense among the Four Boxes, meant to keep politicians more or less honest and on the job. When politicians screw up as "biggly" (to coin a phrase) as recent politicians are doing, it is the citizen's first resort to remove them and replace them with someone that will do the job right, someone who is responsive to the voters. What these politicians seem to fail to realize is that the ballot box is only the first line of defense among the Four Boxes of Liberty, and that when they make it's exercise impossible, that frustration and pressure are likely to express themselves in other boxes. The Four Boxes of Liberty concept involves the following boxes: 1) the Soap Box - the right to speak freely about how things are going. 2) the Jury Box - the right to nullify unjust laws by Jury Nullification of those laws - essentially, a jury has the power to either enforce or ignore unjust laws by findings of guilt or innocence, and may nullify unjust laws by finding their victims innocent in court. 3) The Ballot Box - the right of the citizenry to "vote the bums out!" And, finally, as a last resort... 4) the cartridge box - direct actions against an increasingly totalitarian government. Now, I am not a citizen of the UK, so please feel free to correct my impressions if they are mistaken, but it appears to me that the UK government is taking active measures to attempt to close ALL FOUR of those boxes in their efforts to subjugate their own populace. They have, long ago, implemented such draconian anti-gun laws as to make the cartridge box unreachable in a national emergency, such as a hostile takeover of the people by a totalitarian government. Now they are resorting to "anti-knife" laws. They must do that because when you entirely close off one avenue of approach, pressure is redirected into alternate approaches, until the pressure valve is released. Close that off, too, and yet another will appear. Where does creating a hostage population end? Does it end when they must outlaw pencils, because someone will get jabbed in the neck with one? More recently, they have closed off the Soap Box by jailing citizens bold enough to speak their own opinions out loud, in contravention of the principles of Free Speech, and have passed increasingly draconian laws to enforce those edicts from on high. Even more recently, I understand there has been a massive move in the UK to eliminate the right to Trial by Jury, effectively blocking the expression of displeasure at the Jury Box. ... and now, this crass attempt to close the last box, the Ballot Box, by simply issuing edicts that no further elections will be countenanced. What these anti-freedom, I dare say "communist", forces seem to fail to realize is that even without traditional arms, there is only so much abuse that a population will stand for before they rise en masse and take care of the problem with bare hands and boot heels, if that is the only resort left to them. History shows this to be true over and over and over again. Always remember, a great many Japanese weapons were derived from farm implements, because that is all the peasantry had left to work with (after draconian anti-weapons laws were emplaced) in order to oppose oppressive regimes... and work with them they did. Where there is a will, there is a way. UK Government: beware of trampling on the very People you derive your power from. They will eventually get tired of it, and the tighter you lock down their means of expressing displeasure, the more violent their reaction will be when it comes. Yes, the Soviet Union DID last for 70 years or so... but that is a mere blip on the radar of history. When the time came, the Russian People (and indeed all of Eastern Europe in the former "Warsaw Pact" nations) toppled the Soviet Union faster than anyone thought they could. It was breathtakingly fast. I remember it vividly. Once they got a crack worked into the armor, it literally exploded. UK People: Remember the lessons of history - the earlier you fix the problem of creeping totalitarianism, the easier it is, and the less violent it is. If you wait too long, it tends to get very, very ugly indeed, because greater violence is required to throw off the yoke of greater despotism. The tighter you allow them to seal the armor, the harder it is to remove it, and consequently the more force and violence must be employed therein. That violence has an ugly tendency to spill over on the innocent as well as the guilty. Please, for your own sakes, take care to remedy the situation sooner rather than later. Then again, it may already be too late. They appear to be closing the last Box of Liberty before it has to go to bare knuckles and boot-heels. That's when things get REALLY ugly. . RE: Reform UK Just Destroyed the Uni Party - UK Fights Back - gortex - 12-24-2025 Quote:Now, I am not a citizen of the UK, so please feel free to correct my impressions if they are mistaken, but it appears to me that the UK government is taking active measures to attempt to close ALL FOUR of those boxes in their efforts to subjugate their own populace. You are correct , never did I think I'd see it played out before my eyes in this Country , the same is happening in Europe too Agenda 2030 is being implemented at pace. There is a growing belief Starmer will try to "postpone" the 2029 General Election but I think he's gone long before then , Labour MPs are running scared which is the reason for this weeks U-Turn on Farmers inheritance tax , farmers have taken their own lives to avoid the tax the blood on his hand won't be washed away with cheap bribes and his chances of holding on to Wales next May are as slim as they were before the U-Turn. Hate is a strong word I'm willing to use in his case. RE: Reform UK Just Destroyed the Uni Party - UK Fights Back - gortex - 12-25-2025 As I mentioned the UN's Agenda 2030 above here's an explained of what it is , where it's going and why Reform will likely be powerless to stop it. Delivered by our Conservative / Labour Uniparty over the last Decade with no consultation or permission from their indigenous people who are being made to pay for it , this new system is why the policies of governments in Australia , Europe and Britain seem to be following the same high migration , Net Zero path regardless of the will of their people. RE: Reform UK Just Destroyed the Uni Party - UK Fights Back - Ninurta - 12-25-2025 (12-25-2025, 11:56 AM)gortex Wrote: As I mentioned the UN's Agenda 2030 above here's an explained of what it is , where it's going and why Reform will likely be powerless to stop it. As a contrarian, I have to differ in opinion with the presenter - one can always refuse to comply. In the scenario he presents, it's entirely a matter of how deeply one wants to be embedded into a society that does not want to integrate, but rather wants to assimilate. It's a matter, really, of whether one wants to retain his or her individuality, or whether one prefers to become just a cog in a machine, no name, only a number. . RE: Reform UK Just Destroyed the Uni Party - UK Fights Back - gortex - 12-26-2025 Quote:As a contrarian, I have to differ in opinion with the presenter - one can always refuse to comply. Wile that is true non-compliance comes with problems , I've seen many people say they won't sign up for Digital ID but without an ID number access to booking Hospital or doctor appointments won't be possible , lose your job and access to unemployment benefits won't be possible , trying to find a new job won't be possible as you will need Digital ID to be employed , there will be no right to vote without ID or if you need to rent no access to rental properties , banking will also require Digital ID so forget that money you have tucked away for a rainy day. Digital ID is key to their plan to tag and trace us , appointments, finances and eventually social credit systems will be added dictating where we can go and what we consume , driven over 200 miles this week no fuel for you or eaten too much methane creating Cow this month no beef for you. As someone who is living this bad Socialist dystopian dream I think what he says is on the money , Starmer is taking us back into the EU so our compliance with this insanity will be mandatory , resistance is futile unless you want to live in a tent begging and stealing to survive. Our only hope is that the House of Lords play ping pong with the ID bill until a Reform government is elected but as Labour have just shunted another 24 of their people into the Lords that may not happen , especially as rumours of Labour planning to "postpone" the 2029 election are circulating and when asked about it a government spokesperson refused to outright deny them , a reorganisation of the House of Lords is planned by Labour which could be used as an excuse to "postpone" the General Election as happened with the reorganisation of local councils led to the "postponement" of local elections. RE: Reform UK Just Destroyed the Uni Party - UK Fights Back - Ninurta - 12-27-2025 (12-26-2025, 11:50 AM)gortex Wrote:Quote:As a contrarian, I have to differ in opinion with the presenter - one can always refuse to comply. That's true. I sometimes forget that people in the UK are in an entirely different situation that people in the rural US are. I think you have a much higher population density, which makes life more difficult when there are not enough resources to go around for a population. Here, we have it different. The government could conceivably "stop me from working" for someone else, but they are powerless to stop me from working for myself, and taking pay as I like, whether in cash or by barter. When they outlaw cash, it will all be by barter. The worst they could do with any digital ID scheme here is prevent me from paying taxes on what I earn, which I'm just not seeing as a minus. Banking is nothing to me - I've not used a bank since probably 2008, and I have not used credit since 1993. When Bank of America regularly started stealing 300 to 400 dollar PER MONTH right out my my account, I decided there weren't any percentages in allowing them to have access to my money to begin with. Neither do I miss them, neither banking nor credit. So, my nest egg is not under the control of anyone else - sitting in THEIR vault ready for them to seize at will - and if I don't have enough money in cash in my pocket to get something, then I really don't need it that badly. As for the credit, I will die in debt under student loans that are structured so that they can never, EVER be repaid. I have, so far, paid back 27,000 dollars on a 9,000 dollar student debt, and they still say I owe them 27,000 dollars more, so that indicates a debt structure that is entirely unpayable, designed to keep one in debt slavery for life - so, in 1993, I did away with all credit and borrowing of all kinds. I already had a lifelong debt, didn't need any more. They don't need any special ID to get me there, either. Government benefits? Over the last 3 decades or so, I've gotten used to the government refusing to pay me the money they owe me already, so that won't come as any surprise. For example, the government has never, EVER, paid me any of the "stimulus" payments they've promised, going all the way back to the first one. Never a single dime of any of them. They have even taken to refusing to pay me tax refunds in the last few years, refunds that are due to me from their over-theft of taxes. So, in that regard, I already live there, no special ID required. Of note, in relation to this ID problem, the government's excuse for not paying my tax refunds is because "they don't know " me. Funny, but they know me well enough when it's time to collect taxes - they just don't know me when it's time to pay back what they over-collected. Piss on 'em. They can keep the money, use it to buy a funeral or something. Clearly, they are hurting for money worse than I am if they have to steal it like that. As far as voting goes, there is a point of no return where they will likely have the governing constraints so locked down that voting is moot - for example, of what good is your vote when they refuse to hold elections for it to be counted? I believe you have personally experienced that at least once already. Voting is meaningless when there is no ballot box to drop it into. Medical assistance might be a problem, but are the British people really so callous that they would allow your government to execute your own people like that? Simply refuse to patch them up because they are too poor to afford a cell phone to carry their "ID" into the emergency room on? That's a serious question, because I honestly do not know how callous the British people have become. Beef? Good luck cutting me off from a meat supply. They can refuse to sell to me all day long, and that's not going to starve me out... but again, the situation is different here than it is there. I can get all the meat I can carry out of the woods here. I doubt that is the case there. To my mind, it really just boils down to one question - how determined is a person to be free? Myself, I'm pretty determined, which we will likely see in the coming year or so since the Leftists have taken over the government here in Virginia. I will, no crap, live in a "rock house" (that's what we call overhanging cliff shelters here) before I will buckle under. My Indian ancestors did it for thousands of years, and my colonial ancestors followed suit when they first came into these hills... and I am no better than they were. Probably not as good, to be honest. BUT - I do realize that many of my options are not available in the UK. Many of them would not be available here, either, if I did not insist on it, and ignore any laws to the contrary. Any law designed to starve a citizen is, by definition of what government is supposed to be, illegitimate. The closest ID fiasco we have here is "RealID", which I have refused to get. We'll see how that affects me in the years to come, assuming I have "years" left to live. I refused the "RealID" on principle. I'm not paying an extra 30 dollars and jumping through extra hoops just to get a little blue star on my driver's license, especially when that little blue star will not make me any more "me" than I was yesterday before the star. It's a scam I chose not to participate in. Nor will I be engaging in any "Digital ID" when that comes down the pike here. When I die, I want to be buried face-down, so the government can kiss my ass for what they've done to us already, much less what's to come. I don't have to comply with their bullshit, nor will I - I saw where my pre-1993 compliance got me, and it wasn't worth the effort to comply. I'd have been better off just flying them the finger from the very start instead of waiting till I was old and cantankerous.. . RE: Reform UK Just Destroyed the Uni Party - UK Fights Back - Ninurta - 12-27-2025 It just struck me that there is a business opportunity over here when DigitalID" comes around - I can sell prime-grade, naturally raised venison to the ID'ed folks when their monthly over-chemicalized beef allotments run out! That, on top of selling them moonshine when their alcohol allotments run out, and... other "stuff"... ought to keep me in socks for a foreseeable future! When you have to live off the grid and outside the system they build, might as well do it right and go whole hog! . |