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RE: Some more UFO stuff - A51Watcher2 - 01-17-2023
Phoenix, Arizona in the late afternoon of July 7, 1947.
William A. Rhodes, a professional musician and amateur photographer, radio operator, and electronics
technology enthusiast, was leaving his home to go to his workshop which he had constructed in his back
yard when he heard a curious noise coming from the west.
According to the witness, from his yard, he saw nothing in that direction but quickly noticed an unusual sight
to the northeast. He described it as an elliptical, flat, gray object, measuring 20-30 feet across, traveling at
400-600 miles per hour, spiralling downward from approximately 5,000 feet in altitude to 2,000 feet.
Rhodes quickly ran into his workshop and grabbed his Kodak Brownie 120 box camera. Returning outside,
he captured one picture of the object as it approached its lowest trajectory and another after it ended its
spiralling descent and began to rapidly accelerate upwards at a 45-degree angle.
RE: Some more UFO stuff - EndtheMadnessNow - 01-17-2023
On May 1st, 1979, the National Enquirer ran a front page story on "Invisible Aliens living among us" and these aliens were actually "star people" and this was potentially the first time the concept (later to become known as starseeds) was presented to a wide audience.
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RT Perception
Big daddy Gov is about to drop a cargo load of $$$ into 'investigating' historical data on UFO encounters, including an alleged communication at the Trinity Site in 1945.
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Quote:Jacques Vallée, a longtime ufologist, astronomer and computer scientist, said the amendment’s inclusion in the defense bill was “an absolute turning point.”
“This is what all scientists and my colleagues have always dreamed of,” said Dr. Vallée, who has helped study reports of U.F.O.s for the Centre National d’Études Spatiales, the French space agency. He said that the U.S. government’s agreement to dig into the past meant “the stigma has been removed.”
Dr. Vallée began studying the Trinity incident several years ago alongside a journalist, Paola Harris, and interviewed people who claimed to have witnessed the crash. Dr. Vallée and Ms. Harris chronicled their research in a book, “Trinity: The Best-Kept Secret,” including the details of the avocado-shaped object. They also spoke to witnesses who said they came across the object as children and found what they described as “little creatures.”
In the United States, Dr. Vallée said, “there has always been, on the part of the government, especially the Pentagon,” a sense that civilian sightings are unreliable. “The reason,” he said, “is that civilians don’t have the technology to really document what happens, and of course the Pentagon does.”
But, Dr. Vallée said, there’s no reason that “a farmer in his field” isn’t qualified to give a quality observation of a possible U.F.O. “The civilian observations tend to be longer, they tend to be more detailed, they tend to leave a trace that we can analyze,” he said.
He said he was working with a team at Stanford University to analyze samples of minerals and debris that were left after U.F.O. crashes or landings.
“I would hope that the new project would continue to do that because I think we’ve shown the way to do that scientifically,” Dr. Vallée said. He added, “We don’t have proof that a biologist can look at, but we have considerable statistical and now observational evidence that there must be life out there, that the Earth is not unique.”
At 83, Dr. Vallée still holds out hope for tangible evidence in his lifetime.
“Science is a moving frontier,” he said. “I want to have the right answers, even if they are small answers, rather than more speculation.”
NY Times (archived)
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RE: Some more UFO stuff - A51Watcher2 - 01-18-2023
Many thanks to BIAD for helping me out with posting images while I recover from surgery!
Now then here is an image from the Chile Navy pilots footage I found so interesting -
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..because the shape of the craft looks so much like the one William Rhoades took a picture of in 1947 during the Flying Saucer wave in the US -
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RE: Some more UFO stuff - 727Sky - 01-18-2023
RE: Some more UFO stuff - EndtheMadnessNow - 01-18-2023
40 year anniversary of UK’s own “Phoenix Lights” incident but 14 years prior.
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See the link as toooo much to post here...
January 19, 1983 The Night of the Triangles
One of the witnesses (Simon Matthews) is trying to make a movie about this event, here is a trailer - (don't know if this is proceeding)
National Archives: How convenient.
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UK National Archives
Also, starting in Jan 1983 was the Hudson Valley NY UFO cases
RE: Some more UFO stuff - EndtheMadnessNow - 01-19-2023
Presentation paper from Air Force Research Labs in 2000.
Looks kind of Gimble-ly.
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Gimbals
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Beamed Energy (Laser) Propulsion (A Perspective) (click the PDF icon)
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Myrabo's laser-powered spinning top Lightcraft is a toy model for a microwave-powered active MHD Lightcraft.
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Laser Launch into Orbit
Much longer PDF (304 pages w/alot of details & color pics) from 2007 covering from 2001.
Part 1 – The Lightcraft Technology Demonstration Program
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Galasphere 347 Revealed! Very cool animation tour from way back.
Planet Patrol was a British children's TV show broadcast from 1963-1968, running to 39 half-hour episodes. (long description beneath the vid)
RE: Some more UFO stuff - 727Sky - 01-19-2023
RE: Some more UFO stuff - 727Sky - 01-20-2023
RE: Some more UFO stuff - EndtheMadnessNow - 01-20-2023
Quote:Project Titan Approved By San Marino: UFOs Set To Be Discussed At United Nations For First Time Since 1978
Written by Christopher Sharp - 19 January 2023
Today, the Parliament of San Marino voted in favour to participate in Project Titan, meaning San Marino will submit a proposal to the UN for the creation of a permanent office tasked with the preparation of periodic global conferences dedicated to the scientific study of UFOs, otherwise known as Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP).
The proposal will now be submitted to the UN’s Secretary General before undergoing a preliminary examination and discussion. Following this, the proposal would be submitted to a vote at the General Assembly.
If successfully passed, the United Nations would run the new office which organises periodic conferences hosted by San Marino, becoming the Geneva of global UAP studies. The conferences would be accessible to private and state-backed researchers and organisations.
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Speaking to Liberation Times about Project Titan’s approval by San Marino, Guizzardi commented:
Quote:“Today, the nation of San Marino has made a momentous decision, meaning the UFO phenomenon will now be discussed where it belongs, at the United Nations, the highest council of humanity.
“This project is hugely important in today’s world when nations are observing transmedium objects in their skies and seas. Against the backdrop of conflicts, like in Ukraine, it is this topic which can promote positive cooperation, so that we can help solve an enigma which we all face.
“This one topic can unite our planet and counter our tendency for conflict.”
Greeting the news, former AATIP Director, Lue Elizondo told Liberation Times:
Quote:“By now it should be evident that the UAP phenomenon is not only an issue for the U.S.
“Today, I would like to congratulate the people of San Marino for another historic milestone in this discussion. It should be no surprise that the world's longest standing republic is now championing the UAP cause on behalf of the world.
“I would also like to thank my dear friend, Paolo Guizzardi and his colleagues for their tireless efforts.
“We have been working this issue diligently for several years and consider this a big win for all of humanity. 2023 is already turning out to be a monumental year for this topic and I am proud to have been an integral part of Project Titan from its inception.”
Liberation Times
UFOtwitter is calling it a "Big Win"! Have these people forgot about the last 3 years of UN Corona totalitarianism?? The UN will create a new age UFO one world religion.
United Nations Office for Outer Space Affairs (UNOOSA) Planetary Defense Conference.
Quote:Behold the Sky: Full of Such Mischief, British U.F.O. Files Say (NY Times, March 3, 2011)
LONDON The year was 1977. Above the tiny island nation of Grenada, big things were happening in the sky. Sir Eric Gairy, the country’s prime minister, was convinced that the objects he thought he was seeing were hostile alien aircraft from outer space.
The British government did not share Sir Eric’s conviction that, as he put it, “persons from outer space are studying us, or perhaps living among us as earthlings.” A “ridiculous proposal that will only bring the United Nations into disrepute,” was what one British official called the prime minister’s campaign to persuade the United Nations to form an agency to investigate U.F.O.’s.
Grenada UFO stamps from 1977
Had this archived from years ago:
Quote:Newly released UFO files from the UK government
Files released in March 2011
The files contain a wide range of UFO-related documents, drawings, letters and parliamentary questions covering the years 2000-2005.
Find out more about the House of Lords’ debate on UFOs, a flying saucer hoax that was treated as a potentially real alien invasion of the UK and how 1978 nearly became 'the year of the UFO'.
2023: Hold my saucer.
RE: Some more UFO stuff - BIAD - 01-20-2023
(01-20-2023, 06:25 AM)EndtheMadnessNow Wrote: ...2023: Hold my saucer.
RE: Some more UFO stuff - Bally002 - 01-20-2023
(01-20-2023, 03:03 AM)727Sky Wrote:
I'm happy WF put that to rest.
Kind regards,
Bally
RE: Some more UFO stuff - EndtheMadnessNow - 01-20-2023
The "North Texas Skeptics" group, founded in 1983 as the "Dallas Society to Oppose Pseudo-science", published a newsletter. 259 issues have now been added to Isaac Koi's free UFO/Fortean archive, as searchable PDFs.
259 issues of the "North Texas Skeptic" newsletter
And...
Expanded collection of the PDFs: "Tampa Bay Skeptics Report" newsletter + over 10,000 pages of Tweets by skeptics Mick West and Charlie Wiser.
RE: Some more UFO stuff - BIAD - 01-21-2023
I posted this one on the old site back in 2019, but I feel it deserves another telling due to the sardonic manner
the legacy media and some social-media have cranked-up their ridiculously excessive embellished narratives for
the last few years.
Once, it was only commercials promoting tooth-paste and washing-powder that went to preposterous lengths with
promises to make one's toes curl and guarantee the opposite sex will admire the purchaser as they passed by with
their alluring wares. These days, the establishment-media take their readers/viewers/ listeners for suckers at every
turn and offer nothing but stolid and trivial narratives full of 'if' and 'maybe'. Facts have become whatever someone
can state with a confident tone and countering rational voices are silenced for the sake of the 'message'.
But for a wee while, lets leave this festival of foolery. this carnival of intended horseplay and travel back to the days
when the dot-eating Pac Man appeared on the world stage and CNN was born. Let's go back to 1980.
It's difficult to explain the subject of investigating Ufos in Britain during that year to those who weren't old enough to
appreciate the situation or are from other countries. For instance, in the USA, the topic of 'flying saucers' was already
a well-developed industry with books, magazines and conferences always available for the few who had the time to
peruse the field of possible alien encounters. But in Britain, the main concern was employment -or the lack of it due
to 'THE' recession.
Margaret Thatcher was wielding her sword to destroy the Trade Unions and the country stood at over two million out
of work. The Yorkshire Ripper was out-and-about with his hammer and a little baby of Indian descent was born in an
hospital in Southampton, a boy who would be named Rishi Sunak.
Meanwhile in Swindon, a small town west of London, those who believed that the excitement of Ufos in America
could be transported to their home named by the Anglo Saxons as 'Pig Hill', grouped together and emulated our
cousins across the pond. In an effort to strive for officialdom, the six intrepid wannabe-researchers named themselves
with a formidable title. The Swindon Centre for UFO Research and Investigation (SCUFORI).
Together they would seek out the sneaky aliens who preferred hot deserts over rain-soaked villages of the out-of-work
and drag them kicking and screaming into the rare sunlight of the British Isles, proving -once and for all, that the US
did not have the monopoly on visitors from other worlds.
Or... maybe not.
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Thanks to Martin Shipp for the article and I'll reproduce it appropriately verbatim.
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'Do Not Meddle Or Else'
MEN IN BLACK' had their hey-day in the 1950s and 1960s. They were mysterious visitors, clad in black and of a
darkish complexion, who were said to have visited many prominent ufologists and made vague threats against
them. They were said to have some successes: some ufologists were reputed to have been silenced.
In those days most ufologists believed UFOS to be 'flying saucers', spacecraft piloted by extra-terrestrials. Visits by
men in black (MIBS) and threatening telephone calls and letters ere due either to the aliens or to government agents
trying to stifle the investigators' research. None of this was proved, but it fitted in neatly with the spacecraft theory.
The ufologist today is on the whole a cooler and more objective investigator. He is open to a wider range of possibilities
as the source of the UFOS; alien ships and MIBS are out of favour and largely forgotten. So when a case reminiscent of
MIBS was thrust onto a serious UFO group in 1980, the past seemed to be returning.
The group in question was the Swindon Centre for UFO Research and Investigation (SCUFORI), in [southern] western
England. It's members are recruited by invitation only -there are only six.
SCUFORI members. (front row left-to-right) Martin Shipp, Terry Amey, Martin Moffatt.
(Back row left-to-right) Bob McGregor, Jan Wojtowicz and Charles Affleck.
Mysterious messages disrupted SCUFORI's research for four months. During this period over thirty messages, sent
by post and over the telephone, were received. They threatened the investigators' welfare if they did not stop their
investigations.
The first of them came on Monday, 18th August 1980. On that day, SCUFORI member Charles Affleck found on his
doorstep a small, shrivelled-up plastic bag, which appeared to have been damaged by heat. Inside he found a piece
of paper addressed to SCUFORI. The message simply said:
CEASE UFO STUDY DO NOT MEDDLE OR ELSE
The message was followed by a jumble of squiggles resembling Arabic script.
Affleck was astonished and immediately called for an emergency meeting of the group. That evening, the message
was discussed and group members jokingly blamed each other for it. They regarded the whole episode as something
of a joke. As little could be done, the matter was dropped.
To everyone's surprise, a second message was received two days later, this time through the post. It read:
BEWARE WE ARE WATCHING YOU ALL DO NOT INTERFERE WE WILL MEET
Examples of the 'MIB' letters. [Notice how the lined-paper is folded! Aliens must have pockets too!]
The group were still of the opinion that this was all some kind of joke and that the joker would soon reveal himself.
The following week, three telephone calls were received by two members in their respective homes. The 'messages'
consisted of three bleeps followed by a jumble of weird electronic noises and finally three further bleeps; they lasted
from ten to twenty seconds. A third letter arrived on 3rd September and it read:
IT SEEMS THAT YOU INTEND TO CONTINUE TO INTERFERE WE MUST MEET AT DESIGNATED PLACE
TWO REPRESENTATIVES TO BE CHOSEN WEAR PROTECTION TAPE REPLY PLACE TAPE EXACT
REFERENCE 172x816
The location was visited the next day: it turned out to be a field just outside of Swindon. The group decided not to
record a message on tape, but to leave a written one: it wished to keep some control of the situation by declining
to obey the instructions exactly. In the meantime, Charles Affleck had set up a cassette recorder next to his telephone,
so that when the next telephone call came -this time at midnight -it would be recorded. The message consisted of the
same weird noises that had been heard before.
The next day, Affleck and the present author [Shipp] listened to the recording over and over again, trying to make sense
of it. At first it sounded like electronic gibberish. Then, to their surprise, they heard what sounded like words. Listening
very carefully, trying to ignore the other noises, they could pick out further words.
The voice was eerie -almost frightening. It sounded non-human, mechanical. Eventually they made out the following
message: YOU ARE PRIMITIVE WE ARE WATCHING YOU... WE WILL JUDGE WHAT WE WANT YOU ARE TOO CLOSE
Naturally, the investigators were taken aback by this. Sensing the issue might get out of hand, they approached the
local police and told them what was happening. The police were not very interested and did no more than record the
complaint. The next message worried SCUFORI further.
It said:
'DO NOT GO TO THE AUTHORITIES AGAIN OR ELSE.'
How the sender knew the police had been contacted was a mystery.
However, as the police were not going to help, the investigators decided to solve the matter themselves. They hoped
they would get some answer to the letter they had left that might lead to something. The cassette case had disappeared
from the location, despite the group's efforts to watch it whenever possible.
The SCUFORI investigators like to think of themselves as very level-headed people, but these messages were beginning
to scare them since they had no idea who could be behind them. The group's normal activities virtually came to a standstill.
Several days after the cassette case was taken from the field, a letter was received by Charles Affleck -again through
the post. It was the paper that had been left in the cassette case, bearing SCUFORI's message, along with the curt reply:
'WE WILL CONTACT YOU.'
Soon another letter arrived. Its tone was far stronger Here is an extract:
YOU THINK WE ARE CRANKS WE WILL CHANGE YOUR MINDS THINGS WILL HAPPEN... THIS IS A WARNING
WE ARE HERE FOR A PURPOSE YOU ARE ASKING QUESTIONS ABOUT THINGS YOU KNOW NOTHING OF
YOU WILL CEASE UFO STUDY WE HAVE STOPPED OTHERS WE WILL STOP YOU
Then to the complete amazement of the group, the message ended by listing the members' surnames.
It now seemed that one of the group was leaking information. However, this idea was dismissed on the grounds that all
of the members knew each other so well.
On 15th September, three further telephone calls were reported by Charles Affleck and SCUFORI members Jan Wojtowicz
and Raymond Smithers. Affleck's call was made by the same horrible voice, but this time it seemed much angrier, telling
SCUFORI to stop its investigations. Jan Wojtowicz's call consisted simply of weird electronic noises.
The story Raymond Smithers had to tell, though, was more interesting. He had been able to to make out a map reference,
which turned out to be a small track, one mile (1.6 kilometres) east of Avebury. The spot was visited by members of SCUFORI;
on the ground they left the cassette case that had been left at the first location.
It contained a blank piece of paper, which after various experiments proved to carry a message, written in ink visible only
under ultra-violet light. The message said that 'they' would be willing to co-operate with SCUFORI and would send details
of a meeting place.
Two days later a map reference was given in a telephone call, and a week after that a letter arrived with a message consisting
of one word: 'HALLOWEEN'. There were also other telephone calls consisting of apparently meaningless messages and weird
noises.
On Hallowe'en (Saturday night, 31st October), several SCUFORI members visited the location, West Woods, which is a small,
isolated wood. They stayed there for some time and had one harrowing experience when they saw a white shape cross their
path and disappear. But nothing further happened.
SCUFORI researchers maintaining surveillance on one of the locations of the 'alien' correspondent.
(Right) Charles Affleck setting up the device for the trap.
The group re-examined the messages, the times the dates of their arrival, and so on, in the hope that this might produce
some clues. It was obvious that many of the group's activities were mentioned in the messages, and it became an inescapable
possibility that one of the group might be in league with the mystery caller.
An Excess Of Encounters.
Smithers was the only group member who had not been present when the telephone calls were received. He claimed to have
received calls himself, but no one else had been present on these occasions. He was also interested in electronic gadgets.
It seemed incredible that he would be responsible, for he appeared to be as mystified as anyone else by the messages, but
he was now felt to be worth watching.
Smithers then made a series of bizarre claims that strengthened the other group members' suspicions. First he presented
a picture of a 'crashed UFO'. It showed a spherical object that, he claimed, he had come across while walking his dog close
to his home. He had just had time to rush indoors, grab his Polaroid camera and use the last picture to snap the object before
it rose into the air.
Later investigation showed that the object was actually part of a sewage system.
The spacecraft that cleverly disguised itself as part of a sewage system and the damaged cassette tape and casing.
On another occasion Smithers said that he had been stopped by a MIB on his way to a SCUFORI meeting. The man had
touched his arm and caused the cassette case he was carrying to melt; later a rash appeared on that arm.
SCUFORI now set about trapping the culprit. Affleck built an ingenious device that would photograph the hoaxer.
A cassette case had been left at a location, placed on a micro-switch connected to a camera and flash unit. The camera,
an Olympus OMI , was sealed inside a steel box, the front of which a shutter device was fitted.
[Oh, those heady-days before cell-phones!]
The box was fixed on a pole, at the other end was a block of cement. The pole was buried in the ground, with the camera
and flash unit pointing to the spot at which the cassette case was placed. When the case was picked up, the micro-switch
would be operated, and the camera flash would go off, thus taking a picture of whoever picked up the case.
The the shutter would close in such a way that it would be impossible to re-open.
The trap was set up in yet another remote location. The investigators made sure that Smithers knew where they had left
the cassette case. The device was tested several times, and the ufologists left. It did work, and the resulting photograph
showed Smithers picking up the cassette case.
When SCUFORI members revisited the location, they found that the steel box, the pole and the attached block of concrete
had been wrenched from the ground and dragged a short distance. The flash had instantly given away the presence of the
camera, of course and in his fury, Smithers had found strength enough to perform the remarkable feat of uprooting the
whole device. But he could not batter his way into the box or drag the whole structure away.
Smithers was required to resign from SCUFORI .
He claimed that he had perpetrated the hoax because he himself was being harassed: unless he caused the group to fold,
harm would come to him. However, he produced no proof of this claim.
What was particularly surprising about Smithers's guilt is that he was a special constable in the police force and training to
be a state registered nurse. In most people's eyes these distinctions would presumably have proved him a very responsible
citizen! (Incidentally, the name 'Raymond Smithers' is a pseudonym.)
SCUFORI now as a unique record of an MIB-type case: unusually, this one was solved. The affair proves that with
determination and initiative one can get answers to a mystifying phenomenon.
The End.
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God loves a tryer...! And I love the simplistic narrative, the working-class perception and the limited-funded equipment used.
In most accounts, intricate technologies are discussed by reliable and noted witnesses, thought-provoking rhetoric is used to
arouse feelings in the reader that powerful forces are afoot to maintain society's ignorance and the threat to life is always
waiting in the shadows.
The font we all believed would be the way of the future!
Here, we have a guy goofing about with constrained finances and getting caught by a chunk of concrete. But most of all,
get a load of that hand-written font in the letters! Surely that 'space-age' text would convince the most grounded researcher
that aliens were here and enjoyed using the Royal Mail!!
RE: Some more UFO stuff - Ninurta - 01-23-2023
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RE: Some more UFO stuff - A51Watcher2 - 01-23-2023
(12-22-2022, 07:32 PM)A51Watcher2 Wrote: Here is some of the footage I took at Area 51 in 1991 which hopefully explains my long time username-
Looks like I forgot to mention - We slowed down this clip from my Area 51 footage to 50% to make the movements more easily seen. If you click on the "Watch on Youtube" button you can then access the YT settings gear icon and change the speed settings to 2 which will show you this clip at original speed.
RE: Some more UFO stuff - Bally002 - 01-23-2023
(01-23-2023, 01:24 AM)Ninurta Wrote: .
Crikey, something I'd never heard about.
Bit different.
Bally
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RE: Some more UFO stuff - 727Sky - 01-24-2023
RE: Some more UFO stuff - EndtheMadnessNow - 01-25-2023
In 1945, UFOs were reported as German technology and today it’s Chinese drones. Great balls of fire...
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PROJECT 1947 - UFO REPORTS - 1945
RE: Some more UFO stuff - A51Watcher2 - 01-25-2023
(01-25-2023, 04:24 AM)EndtheMadnessNow Wrote: In 1945, UFOs were reported as German technology and today it’s Chinese drones. Great balls of fire...
PROJECT 1947 - UFO REPORTS - 1945
The subject of Foo Fighters (in WWII) has always had sketchy partial analysis due mainly to researchers managing to track down one Bomber crew or two and basing their analysis on such limited samples.
Well in more recent times somebody got the bright idea (duh face palm) to visit the National Archives and see what was collected there, and then wrote a book detailing the results.
http://kevinrandle.blogspot.com/2008/10/revising-ufo-history.html
As you can see these results detail solid objects, not fireballs as commonly perceived.
The most amazing thing I read was that at least 100 of these reports remain classified till this very day!
RE: Some more UFO stuff - EndtheMadnessNow - 01-27-2023
(01-25-2023, 08:36 AM)A51Watcher2 Wrote:(01-25-2023, 04:24 AM)EndtheMadnessNow Wrote: In 1945, UFOs were reported as German technology and today it’s Chinese drones. Great balls of fire...
PROJECT 1947 - UFO REPORTS - 1945
The subject of Foo Fighters (in WWII) has always had sketchy partial analysis due mainly to researchers managing to track down one Bomber crew or two and basing their analysis on such limited samples.
Well in more recent times somebody got the bright idea (duh face palm) to visit the National Archives and see what was collected there, and then wrote a book detailing the results.
http://kevinrandle.blogspot.com/2008/10/revising-ufo-history.html
As you can see these results detail solid objects, not fireballs as commonly perceived.
The most amazing thing I read was that at least 100 of these reports remain classified till this very day!
Perception then vs now and especially now since many facts don't fit the hive mind narrative these days. Wow, that many still classified. I think alot of it among many other events/sightings have remained classified because of Russia, the old cold war on what was/is deception using classified tech remains sealed in a lead box stored in a deep underground bunker.
Mick West decided to have some fun...
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8 & 14 have been of interest to me.