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RE: Some more UFO stuff - F2d5thCav - 06-01-2025 A different take on Roswell We've all heard the narrative regarding Roswell; this became more or less known to the public at large in the 1970s - 1980s. Back in 1947, there was a press release from Roswell that was quickly retracted, and the matter was largely undiscussed for almost three decades. So, the book I mentioned in the previous comment has an interesting bit on this. The book was written by a Marine aviator, and later in his life, UFO investigator, Donald Keyhoe. What is particularly interesting is his comments were written in NINETEEN FIFTY, that is, only THREE years after whatever happened at Roswell. Here is what he wrote: Quote:They key man in the story seemed to be one George Koehler, of Denver, Colorado. The morning after Purdy called, I took a plane to Denver. During the flight I went over the "little men" story again. It had been printed in over a hundred papers. ... After interviewing Koehler, Keyhoe came to conclusion that the story was a hoax, as Koehler could provide no evidence of his claims. Keyhoe goes on to write, Quote:On the trip back, I bought a paper at the Chicago airport. On an inside page, I ran across Koehler's name. According to the A.P. he had just admitted the whole thing was a big joke. But in spite of this, the "little men" story goes on and on. Well ... hold up. Recalling this is written *just three years* after the event at Roswell, some questions immediately emerge. WHO was this Koehler guy with apparent knowledge of something happening at Roswell (the "radar station on our southwest border") ? Was Koehler actually on the level, or was he the seed of a false narrative that exploded in popularity in the 1970s ? If Koehler was in fact a hoaxer, then what in the world is going on with the testimony of Mac Brazel, Jesse Marcel, etc. regarding events at Roswell ? Why have multiple people, over decades, doubled down so hard on the narrative that is today sacred to the UFO-logy community ? The other curious bit is that Keyhoe's book goes into detail on events like the death of Captain Mantell in the skies over Kentucky, but Keyhoe never mentions Roswell by name. Keyhoe was convinced he was being BS'ed by the U.S. Air Force with their ludicrous "explanations", so it doesn't seem likely he was part of a cover-up designed to hide whatever happened at Roswell. In fact, Keyhoe became convinced the answer to "saucer" sightings was that they came from other worlds, and he believed the government was terrified of how the public might react to such a revelation. And amazingly, so far as I have seen, all of the breathless discussion about Roswell since the 1970s fails to mention Keyhoe's comments in his book written just three years later. Anyone interested in the phenomenon and/or Roswell, Keyhoe's book is well worth reading. He writes well, and mentions many incidents and sightings of the late 1940s. ![]() RE: Some more UFO stuff - 727Sky - 06-02-2025 RE: Some more UFO stuff - 727Sky - 06-02-2025 RE: Some more UFO stuff - 727Sky - 06-03-2025 Just a whiff RE: Some more UFO stuff - Ninurta - 06-04-2025 (05-31-2025, 04:22 AM)EndtheMadnessNow Wrote: The book: They Knew Too Much About Flying Saucers (1956) by Gray Barker (May 2, 1925 – December 6, 1984). I have encountered references to this book for decades now, but had never, before this, seen an actual copy of it. Imagine my dismay when I discovered that, as a part of the natural aging process, my ancient, decrepit eyes were unable to squint down tightly enough to read it as presented on the screen. To alleviate that, and as a public service to other potentially old blind folks, I present a link to a downloadable PDF version of the book, which can be downloaded and then "blown up" in your favorite PDF reader. . RE: Some more UFO stuff - EndtheMadnessNow - 06-04-2025 (06-04-2025, 03:55 AM)Ninurta Wrote:(05-31-2025, 04:22 AM)EndtheMadnessNow Wrote: The book: They Knew Too Much About Flying Saucers (1956) by Gray Barker (May 2, 1925 – December 6, 1984). Hi Ninurta, perhaps from my Archive link you're not aware of the zoom-in button which you can make the text HUGE. I'm assuming it will work regardless of which browser you're using. ![]() To exit full-screen just click the cross icon to the right. Also, from that same page if you exit full-screen mode you will see links for a scanned PDF and a PDF with OCR text. RE: Some more UFO stuff - F2d5thCav - 06-04-2025 I'm enjoying reading the old "flying saucers" works of the 1950s. I'm on my third book by Keyhoe. Yet another "prequel" has become evident. He mentions a 1952-53 event in West Virginia. A bright light rapidly drops onto a hilltop. A woman and her son think there may be a fire and go to the site, where they encounter a bizarre entity that terrifies them with its appearance. A later air force investigation claims they saw an owl in the night ![]() And that story description rang a bell ... the Kecksburg Bell. Sounds very similar to -that- story. And many incidents mentioned that are forgotten by today's UFO literature. I also like that they don't use the term "UFO". That term was foisted on us by an establishment desperate to normalize this phenomena so that authority's, well, authority, wasn't eventually challenged because people realized there was something out there much more powerful than anything here on earth. And it is becoming ever more clear the goals of early space exploration efforts were informed by worries of the "above top secret crowd". Big focus on the moon and on Mars, and I think the reason why is that the national security bunch wanted to ensure the saucers weren't based on those celestial bodies. Neatly for them, those were nearby worlds and their relative proximity provided useful cover for prioritizing the reconnaissance and exploration of them. ![]() RE: Some more UFO stuff - Bally002 - 06-04-2025 (06-03-2025, 11:41 PM)727Sky Wrote: Just a whiff Watching this reminded me of 'The AMTRAK WARS' by Patrick Tilley. RIP. A fine set of novels back in the day. Kind regards, Bally) RE: Some more UFO stuff - EndtheMadnessNow - 06-05-2025 USAF Captain Noall Brice Cornwell (aka Guy Kirkwood, Mel Noel) talks about his UFO experiences... “Mel Noel” aka “Guy Kirkwood” aka “Noall Brice Cornwell”: Buried with Military Honors at Miramar National Cemetery. (by Richard Geldreich) For more info checkout Richard Geldreich's Contact in the Desert 2025 Presentation. RE: Some more UFO stuff - EndtheMadnessNow - 06-06-2025 June 6, 1989: Konantsevo, Vologda Oblast, Russia School children near the village of Konantsevo, Vologda Oblast, Russia, see a luminous dot in the sky. ![]() It gets larger, turns into a shining sphere, lands in a meadow, and moves to the Reka Kubena river about a quarter mile away. It seems to split, and a "headless person in dark garb" appears. The entity and sphere become invisible. Three more spheres are said to land later in the same meadow. ![]() Book: UFO Chronicles of the Soviet Union. A Cosmic Samizdat by Jacques Vallee (1992, pp. 11–12). ![]() ![]() UFO sightings in Soviet Union, UPI, June 23, 1989: ![]() JUNE 6, 1989, KONANTSEVO, VOLOGDA, RUSSIA, SERGEY BELIAEVSKIY, LUDA RIBAKOVA, SVETA KATERINA, MARINA SHIRIAEVE, SASHA KRASAVIN, OLGA KRYLOVA: Brief summary of the event and follow-up: Quote:Under hypnosis, one of the kids indicated that the beings had a head with three antennas on top, with tiny silver balls on the ends of these antennas, that they were dressed in gray with sorts of black boots without heels, that they had three fingers and that the mouth resembled a triangle with the point upwards, and that there were two small black motionless points, which one says were the eyes. Russian kids drawing of strange robotic beings... ![]() ![]() 1989 Russia #UFOB [CASE] Russian kids in Konantsevo see strange robotic beings: Note this case was less than one month after Bob Lazar was unleashed onto the world via George Knapp. These Russian entity cases are so weird and different from Western ones that at least one obvious source of such entity reports is the human minds. Some of those Soviet sci-fi movies of the 70s-80s for kids are really weird. RE: Some more UFO stuff - 727Sky - 06-06-2025 now for the entire interview; The Peruvian face peelers one weird story Quote:Timothy Alberino is an author, researcher, and explorer known for his bestselling book Birthright (2020), which offers a groundbreaking perspective on biblical narratives in the context of artificial intelligence, transhumanism, and UFO disclosure. Often called a modern-day Indiana Jones, Alberino has traveled globally to investigate alternative history, megalithic architecture, ancient giant mythologies, and the UFO phenomenon. His expeditions include leading searches for lost Incan cities in Peru’s Andes with Spanish explorer Anselm Pi Rambla since 2018. Alberino has hosted, produced, and directed documentaries like True Legends: Holocaust of Giants (2017) and True Legends: The Unholy See (2016), exploring topics such as Nephilim, cryptids, and occult conspiracies. A former resident of Peru’s Amazon jungle, where he lived with local communities and mastered Spanish, he now resides in Bozeman, Montana, with his wife, Jasmine, and their five boys. Alberino is an advocate for uncovering hidden truths about human history and biblical prophecy. RE: Some more UFO stuff - Ninurta - 06-06-2025 (06-04-2025, 06:16 PM)F2d5thCav Wrote: I'm enjoying reading the old "flying saucers" works of the 1950s. I'm on my third book by Keyhoe. Ah yes, the Flatwoods Monster. Let me assure all listening that no one, absolutely no one, who has lived in West Virginia for any length of time at all will mistake anything for an owl. They know exactly what owls look like, and how big the various sorts are. Quote:I also like that they don't use the term "UFO". That term was foisted on us by an establishment desperate to normalize this phenomena so that authority's, well, authority, wasn't eventually challenged because people realized there was something out there much more powerful than anything here on earth. The term currently in vogue, "UAP", is rapidly growing on me. I say that because I am convinced that many, if not most, of the items in question truly are "phenomena" rather than "objects". Not objects in the traditional sense of the term, as in something solid you can punch with a fist or hold under water or accidentally bump into as you are walking along. Too many these days are amorphous, shape-changing, insubstantial areas, akin to mist, rather than solid somethings. . |