Quote:And if you want to go into it being his duty to condemn suffering ... then where is his condemnation of the Iranian regime that wants nuclear weapons so that they can destroy America and Israel and our allies in Europe

(1 hour ago)gortex Wrote:

Quote:And if you want to go into it being his duty to condemn suffering ... then where is his condemnation of the Iranian regime that wants nuclear weapons so that they can destroy America and Israel and our allies in Europe

That's the narrative that's been spun by Netanyahu for decades , I wonder if Israel didn't have the Nuclear weapons it isn't supposed to have Iran would need its own protection. Only one Country has used Nukes which seems to have convinced a world full of them that they really shouldn't be used but they are a deterrent.

(1 hour ago)gortex Wrote:

Quote: I wonder if Israel didn't have the Nuclear weapons it isn't supposed to have Iran would need its own protection. 

(1 hour ago)Kenzo1 Wrote: On Pope ,  it`s only good if the pope  speak against war .  To spin that to the left vs right thing again is pure lunacy to me .

(1 hour ago)Kenzo1 Wrote: Joe Kent , who served as the director of the National Counterterrorism Center from 2025 to 2026 sayed Iran had no plan to build nuclear weapon per about 12 different intelligence agencies information .

(1 hour ago)YesItsMe Wrote:

(1 hour ago)gortex Wrote: As leader of the Catholic church isn't it the Pope's duty to speak out against war , to condemn the suffering caused to innocent people due to war.

It's his duty to teach Catholic theology and take care of the Catholic church.   

It's NOT his duty to have a meeting with the former Obama administration and Democratic operatives, and then go on a week long rant against the sitting president of the United States that happens to be in opposition to those Democrats.   

It's NOT his duty to tell America that it has to ignore the rule of law and allow tens of millions of illegals to be in our country, sucking off the US tax payer, and breaking our laws.

It's NOT his duty to be a partisan political operative.

And if you want to go into it being his duty to condemn suffering ... then where is his condemnation of the Iranian regime that wants nuclear weapons so that they can destroy America and Israel and our allies in Europe .... where is his condemnation of the Iranian regime for mass murdering by the tens of  thousands innocent peaceful protesters in their own country ... where is his condemnation of Iran for attacking innocent people around the world via proxies Hezbollah, Houthis, and 'palestinians' ... where is his condemnation of the attacks on Christians in Africa by Muslims ...

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(1 hour ago)gortex Wrote: It is not for a President to verbally attack the leader of a Christian church for criticism of war , a President who claims to be Christian should do as his Bible says and turn the other cheek.

That's funny.  OF COURSE it is okay for the president to verbally attack a person who has attacked him and our country politically.   Just because the pope is the leader of a church doesn't give him a free pass from being called out for his words.  And no, no one has to 'turn the other cheek' when being criticized.   People are allowed to stick up for themselves and point out the flaws in the other persons attack.

The pope attacked first.   And he did so after visiting with Democrat operatives.   He's acting like a political activist hack.  So what he gets back in response is his own fault and perfectly justifiable.

(1 hour ago)YesItsMe Wrote:

(1 hour ago)gortex Wrote:

Quote: I wonder if Israel didn't have the Nuclear weapons it isn't supposed to have Iran would need its own protection. 

That's funny.   Iran doesn't want nukes for their own protection.  They want them so they can attack everyone else and kick off World War III, to usher in their fake Mahdi.   They think their fake Muslim messiah is coming with the war and will slaughter all the nonmuslims and turn the world Muslim.   Iran is full of Twelvers.   Read up on the Twelvers.   Their nuclear quest has nothing to do with self protection.   Israel doesn't threaten to wipe Iran off the map, it's the other way around.    Nutballs.

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(1 hour ago)Kenzo1 Wrote: On Pope ,  it`s only good if the pope  speak against war .  To spin that to the left vs right thing again is pure lunacy to me .

It's pure lunacy to call it anything else but that.   He met with Democrat operatives, who weren't even Catholic.  Then immediately launched into the anti-Trump, anti-America rants.  Totally ignoring that this is a self defense war against Iran because it's IRAN who wants nukes to destroy tens of millions of innocent people.  

Pope Leo is a political activist instead of acting like a pope is supposed to.

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(1 hour ago)Kenzo1 Wrote: Joe Kent , who served as the director of the National Counterterrorism Center from 2025 to 2026 sayed Iran had no plan to build nuclear weapon per about 12 different intelligence agencies information .

And yet we know for a fact that they have enriched to 60%, when medical only needs 18%, and they built their enrichment and container facilities deep underground when that isn't necessary for medical grade, and they admit they have enough nuclear material for 11 nuclear bombs.    So this Joe Kent obviously got it wrong.

(1 hour ago)xuenchen Wrote: Yup.
Obama, from Chicago
Axelrod, Obama operative and messenger, from Chicago
The Pope, from Chicago

Axelrod sees The Pope, next thing we know, The Pope get political and a wee bit anti-Trump.

Chicago Connection.  1+1+1=3    

(53 minutes ago)YesItsMe Wrote:

(1 hour ago)xuenchen Wrote: Yup.
Obama, from Chicago
Axelrod, Obama operative and messenger, from Chicago
The Pope, from Chicago

Axelrod sees The Pope, next thing we know, The Pope get political and a wee bit anti-Trump.

Chicago Connection.  1+1+1=3    

Exactly.  And Axelrod isn't Catholic.
There was no reason for a Democrat operative, who wasn't even Catholic, to meet with the pope.
And within hours the pope is spewing Anti-American and Anti-Trump politics, while
ignoring the threat Iran has been and continues to be.

(49 minutes ago)Kenzo1 Wrote: If the World would end now,the right vs left  gang would still sing this to last minute, last breath....hopeless....