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RE: Looks like the war with Iran is cooking off - YesItsMe - 04-15-2026
(Yesterday, 03:00 PM)gortex Wrote: Well that went well didn't it , enjoy your hug Donald and you probably shouldn't be calling President Xi fat.
He called the hug fat ... a big fat hug .... not Xi.
When people in America give hearty hugs they are referred to as 'big fat hugs'.
It's a friendly term.
(Yesterday, 03:27 PM)gortex Wrote: After reports of a Chinese ship leaving yesterday I think words may have been spoken between the two and Trump has seen the error of his decision ,
What error? It was a good move. Blockade of the Iranian ports puts the squeeze on Iran financially and it means there are no boots on the ground for people to die from. It was a good move. And it's only the Iranian ports that are blocked. The other ports are continuing with business as usual so ships will be going through the strait.
RE: Looks like the war with Iran is cooking off - Kenzo1 - 04-15-2026
(Yesterday, 03:38 PM)YesItsMe Wrote:(Yesterday, 03:00 PM)gortex Wrote: Well that went well didn't it , enjoy your hug Donald and you probably shouldn't be calling President Xi fat.
He called the hug fat ... a big fat hug .... not Xi.
When people in America give hearty hugs they are referred to as 'big fat hugs'.
It's a friendly term.
(Yesterday, 03:27 PM)gortex Wrote: After reports of a Chinese ship leaving yesterday I think words may have been spoken between the two and Trump has seen the error of his decision ,
What error? It was a good move. Blockade of the Iranian ports puts the squeeze on Iran financially and it means there are no boots on the ground for people to die from. It was a good move. And it's only the Iranian ports that are blocked. The other ports are continuing with business as usual so ships will be going through the strait.
I dont see the Blockade working since ship from Iran to China sails normally through Hormuz and beyond, it seem what CENTCOM claims is not true .
So basically , looks like another TACO ....Trump wont dare to block ships that are Iran-to-China .
RE: Looks like the war with Iran is cooking off - gortex - 04-15-2026
Quote:He called the hug fat ... a big fat hug .... not Xi.
When people in America give hearty hugs they are referred to as 'big fat hugs'.
It's a friendly term.
Yeah I know hence the emoji , just a lame attempt at humour.
Quote:What error? It was a good move.
How long did it last before the climbdown ?
Russia and China do a lot of trade with their partner Iran , it was obvious this was going to happen as the blockade interferes with their trade route.
RE: Looks like the war with Iran is cooking off - Kenzo1 - 04-15-2026
Just a litle reminder folks
(Yesterday, 03:57 PM)Kenzo1 Wrote:(Yesterday, 03:38 PM)YesItsMe Wrote:(Yesterday, 03:00 PM)gortex Wrote: Well that went well didn't it , enjoy your hug Donald and you probably shouldn't be calling President Xi fat.
He called the hug fat ... a big fat hug .... not Xi.
When people in America give hearty hugs they are referred to as 'big fat hugs'.
It's a friendly term.
(Yesterday, 03:27 PM)gortex Wrote: After reports of a Chinese ship leaving yesterday I think words may have been spoken between the two and Trump has seen the error of his decision ,
What error? It was a good move. Blockade of the Iranian ports puts the squeeze on Iran financially and it means there are no boots on the ground for people to die from. It was a good move. And it's only the Iranian ports that are blocked. The other ports are continuing with business as usual so ships will be going through the strait.
I dont see the Blockade working since ship from Iran to China sails normally through Hormuz and beyond, it seem what CENTCOM claims is not true .
So basically , looks like another TACO ....Trump wont dare to block ships that are Iran-to-China .
Sorry, i was wrong . It does look like ships originating from Iranian ports are indeed blocked .
So the other ships passing naval blockage , are from other Gulf nations .
RE: Looks like the war with Iran is cooking off - YesItsMe - 04-15-2026
(Yesterday, 04:01 PM)Kenzo1 Wrote: Sorry, i was wrong . It does look like ships originating from Iranian ports are indeed blocked .
So the other ships passing naval blockage , are from other Gulf nations
Yeah ... it's putting the squeeze on Iran financially while other ports are doing just fine.
It's actually a smart thing to do. That way there are no boots on the ground and
people don't die. We will see how long it lasts. Trump constantly changes his mind
on everything. But for now, it's a good thing.
RE: Looks like the war with Iran is cooking off - Bally002 - 04-15-2026
(Yesterday, 01:56 PM)YesItsMe Wrote:(04-14-2026, 10:35 PM)Bally002 Wrote: Leave the flamin tankers alone. Kinda like a gang of bullies taking on the fat nerd mit glasses on carrying his extended lunch box.
Stick to going after go the military assests and associated infrastructure, ...
You don't get it. Putting the squeeze on Iran financially will break them faster than us sending boots on the ground. And no one dies when a blockade is in place whereas boots on the ground kills people. It's a very smart thing to do.
Yeah, I understand that but I read report that tankers running the blokade will be blown out of the water. Perhaps I read too much into it and maybe wrong but that was my senile understanding of the statements made. As I said, I'm all for a blockade if now required but don't fire upon the ships. Generally crewed by merchant seaman from all ports of call not just iranians.
Cheers for the reply,
Bally)
RE: Looks like the war with Iran is cooking off - YesItsMe - 04-15-2026
(Yesterday, 05:22 PM)Bally002 Wrote: I'm all for a blockade if now required but don't fire upon the ships.Well then if they do that then it's not really a blockade, is it?
RE: Looks like the war with Iran is cooking off - gortex - 04-15-2026
Quote:Posted by Bally002
Yeah, I understand that but I read report that tankers running the blokade will be blown out of the water.
I think the realization dawned that they can't actually do that to civilian traffic which is why the blockade is being lifted , it was pointless and doomed to fail.
Iran's response , “And today’s popular music: ‘Blockade’ by Trump,”
RE: Looks like the war with Iran is cooking off - YesItsMe - 04-15-2026
(Yesterday, 07:33 PM)gortex Wrote: I think the realization dawned that they can't actually do that to civilian traffic which is why the blockade is being lifted , it was pointless and doomed to fail.I just checked a handful of MSM news sites.
None of them say the blockade is lifted.
Can you post a link to the information you have
saying that it is? I can't find anything saying
that.
RE: Looks like the war with Iran is cooking off - gortex - 04-15-2026
I'm just going of the post from Trump stating as much.
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RE: Looks like the war with Iran is cooking off - 727Sky - 04-16-2026
Blockades, oil prices, Iran broke, running out of space to store oil they can not now move/ship etc etc.... Oh and China has figured out we are opening the strait sooner or later for everyone.
RE: Looks like the war with Iran is cooking off - Bally002 - 04-16-2026
(Yesterday, 07:33 PM)gortex Wrote:Quote:Posted by Bally002
Yeah, I understand that but I read report that tankers running the blokade will be blown out of the water.
I think the realization dawned that they can't actually do that to civilian traffic which is why the blockade is being lifted , it was pointless and doomed to fail.
Cheers and thanks.
Bally
RE: Looks like the war with Iran is cooking off - F2d5thCav - 04-16-2026
(Yesterday, 09:57 PM)gortex Wrote: I'm just going of the post from Trump stating as much.
That comment of his doesn't say the blockade is lifted. The straight is "opening" ... note the tense of the verb ... an ongoing process.
The proof in the pudding is what happens if a ship tries to run the blockade.
This site has daily updates--
https://understandingwar.org/research/middle-east/iran-update-special-report-april-15-2026/
RE: Looks like the war with Iran is cooking off - gortex - 04-16-2026
Quote:That comment of his doesn't say the blockade is lifted. The straight is "opening" ... note the tense of the verb ... an ongoing process.
That would seem to be the case but as China is Iran's biggest customer taking over 90% of Iranian oil I don't see how this opening of the strait would make Xi happy when his supplies are still blockaded by the US.
From what I've seen being reported the US plan board ships trying to escape the blockade , if China's loses patience and their tankers tried to evade the blockade would the US board Chinese vessels ? , one tanker already tried to make the move but turned around I wonder how long Xi is willing to wait.
RE: Looks like the war with Iran is cooking off - 727Sky - 04-16-2026
(5 hours ago)gortex Wrote:Quote:That comment of his doesn't say the blockade is lifted. The straight is "opening" ... note the tense of the verb ... an ongoing process.
That would seem to be the case but as China is Iran's biggest customer taking over 90% of Iranian oil I don't see how this opening of the strait would make Xi happy when his supplies are still blockaded by the US.
From what I've seen being reported the US plan board ships trying to escape the blockade , if China's loses patience and their tankers tried to evade the blockade would the US board Chinese vessels ? , one tanker already tried to make the move but turned around I wonder how long Xi is willing to wait.
Xi has so many problems at home which incidentally are getting worse by the day, that some of his minions may make big tough speeches and veiled threats but at present the paper Tiger/Dragon is eating it's own tail.
RE: Looks like the war with Iran is cooking off - gortex - 04-16-2026
Pope Leo has responded to Trump's latest attack on him.
Quote:The Pope has hit out at leaders who spend billions on wars and said the world was "being ravaged by a handful of tyrants".
The pontiff made the unusually forceful remarks in Cameroon after Donald Trump attacked him on social media.
Leo, who is the first US pope, also criticised leaders who used religious language to justify wars and urged a "decisive change of course".
He said: "The masters of war pretend not to know that it takes only a moment to destroy, yet often a lifetime is not enough to rebuild.
"They turn a blind eye to the fact that billions of dollars are spent on killing and devastation, yet the resources needed for healing, education and restoration are nowhere to be found."
The pope and Trump were involved in a spat after the US president said he "should get his act together" and was "very weak".
In his latest remarks today, the pontiff did not name any particular leader.
https://news.sky.com/story/iran-war-latest-trump-us-israel-ceasefire-deal-strait-of-hormuz-blockade-strikes-oil-lebanon-13509565
Quote:Last month, the Center for Strategic and International Studies estimated that the war in Iran had cost the U.S. Treasury $12.7 billion over the first 12 days of the war.1 If we project that daily cost forward to April 1, we get a total estimate of about $35 billion of more than $210 per IRS tax return or ~$260 per household.
https://www.aei.org/articles/the-economic-costs-of-the-iran-war/
RE: Looks like the war with Iran is cooking off - F2d5thCav - 04-16-2026
More than curious how the Pope did that after meeting with Obama's former campaign manager, someone called Axelrod. Who isn't even a Catholic.
Smells like a Dem Party hit job called "let's see which group we set against each other this time".
Hasn't been a solid Pope since JPII IMO.
"Blind eye" ... like the one "Leo" has shown regarding massacres of Christians.
I am, BTW, Catholic ... one of those Catholics who is totally fed up with the corruption and criminal behavior of the clergy.
RE: Looks like the war with Iran is cooking off - YesItsMe - 04-16-2026
(2 hours ago)gortex Wrote: Pope Leo has responded to Trump's latest attack on him.
Bah! This is an excellent article on Pope Leo cozying up to the Democrats and how
he's just being a left wing political activist. As a Catholic I'm very disappointed
in Pope Leos behavior.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-15736491/Pope-Leo-Trump-Iran-Immigration-AYAAN-HIRSI-ALI.html
RE: Looks like the war with Iran is cooking off - gortex - 04-16-2026
As leader of the Catholic church isn't it the Pope's duty to speak out against war , to condemn the suffering caused to innocent people due to war.
Pope Francis on Russia's war on Ukraine.
Quote:Every war leaves our world worse than it was before. War is a failure of politics and of humanity, a shameful capitulation, a stinging defeat before the forces of evil’.
It is not for a President to verbally attack the leader of a Christian church for criticism of war , a President who claims to be Christian should do as his Bible says and turn the other cheek.
RE: Looks like the war with Iran is cooking off - YesItsMe - 04-16-2026
(15 minutes ago)gortex Wrote: As leader of the Catholic church isn't it the Pope's duty to speak out against war , to condemn the suffering caused to innocent people due to war.It's his duty to teach Catholic theology and take care of the Catholic church.
It's NOT his duty to have a meeting with the former Obama administration and Democratic operatives, and then go on a week long rant against the sitting president of the United States that happens to be in opposition to those Democrats.
It's NOT his duty to tell America that it has to ignore the rule of law and allow tens of millions of illegals to be in our country, sucking off the US tax payer, and breaking our laws.
It's NOT his duty to be a partisan political operative.
And if you want to go into it being his duty to condemn suffering ... then where is his condemnation of the Iranian regime that wants nuclear weapons so that they can destroy America and Israel and our allies in Europe .... where is his condemnation of the Iranian regime for mass murdering by the tens of thousands innocent peaceful protesters in their own country ... where is his condemnation of Iran for attacking innocent people around the world via proxies Hezbollah, Houthis, and 'palestinians' ... where is his condemnation of the attacks on Christians in Africa by Muslims ...
(15 minutes ago)gortex Wrote: It is not for a President to verbally attack the leader of a Christian church for criticism of war , a President who claims to be Christian should do as his Bible says and turn the other cheek.
That's funny. OF COURSE it is okay for the president to verbally attack a person who has attacked him and our country politically. Just because the pope is the leader of a church doesn't give him a free pass from being called out for his words. And no, no one has to 'turn the other cheek' when being criticized. People are allowed to stick up for themselves and point out the flaws in the other persons attack.
The pope attacked first. And he did so after visiting with Democrat operatives. He's acting like a political activist hack. So what he gets back in response is his own fault and perfectly justifiable.