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RE: Reform UK Just Destroyed the Uni Party - UK Fights Back - BIAD - 05-19-2025
When one looks at political optics and how the public can convinced via manipulated 'logical-inference',
one might see Prime Minister' Starmer's latest rascality as genuine thumb-nose to the general public.
This will cost the Labour/Conservative Party dearly and the guy who assisted in covering up the continuing
racket of grooming-gangs is inching his way out of the door of No.10. As for the media...? well, they're all
strangely in 'Live-Blog' mode, in hopes of selling this betrayal to the public.
Everyone Is Involved.
Quote:Source: (Because They're All The Same)
BETRADE DEAL Keir Starmer makes HUGE concession as Brexit ‘surrender’ deal ‘agreed’
– with UK dragged back into shackles of Europe
'SIR Keir Starmer's Brexit 'surrender summit' deal has been agreed this morning with the PM
understood to have already made a huge concession. The UK has been locked in late-night
negotiations with Europe to nail down the terms of a UK-EU reset.
Critics have dubbed negotiations a "surrender summit" - dragging Britain back into the shackles
of Europe which Brexit freed us from. And this morning, it was revealed Starmer has given
European fishermen access to British waters for 12 years -more than double the current five-year
arrangement.
Bending the knee to Brussels, the arrangement is also expected to once more and concede to
the bloc on food standards.
In return, Brussels agreed to a permanent Swiss-style veterinary deal to cut border checks and
boost trade - with Britain signing up to follow EU rules on plant and animal health. This means
UK food exporters will face fewer delays at borders, but at the cost of aligning with EU standards
and accepting European Court of Justice oversight on those specific rules.
The “fish for food” agreement was signed off by all 27 EU member states in Brussels ahead of
a UK-EU summit in London today, where Sir Keir will unveil the pact alongside European
Commission president Ursula von der Leyen.
Reform UK leader Nigel Farage lamented the potential "end of the fishing industry" after details
of the UK-EU reset deal emerged. Meanwhile, Tory leader Kemi Badenoch said the details are
"very concerning". She said: "12 years access to British waters is three times longer than the
government wanted.
"We're becoming a rule-taker from Brussels once again. And with no details on any cap or
time limits on youth mobility, fears of free movement returning will only increase. "This is
very concerning." By tying Britain back up in EU red tape, the UK would be placed under
the jurisdiction of European courts - a major reversal of the Brexit promise.
The UK has also struck a defence pact with the EU, and both sides have agreed to continue
talks on a youth mobility scheme. The Tories and Reform UK have blasted this as "freedom
of movement by the backdoor"...'
RE: Reform UK Just Destroyed the Uni Party - UK Fights Back - gortex - 05-19-2025
Quote:Posted by BIAD
When one looks at political optics and how the public can convinced via manipulated 'logical-inference',
one might see Prime Minister' Starmer's latest rascality as genuine thumb-nose to the general public.
No doubt the other remoaners will be delighted by the move to dismiss the Democratically mandated move away from the EU mate although Brexiteers may have the last laugh.
The arson attack last week on Starmer's house , car and another property linked to the Dear Leader may have more significance than just being a targeted arson , you have perhaps seen the rumours but for those who haven't it turns out the arsonist , a 21 year old Ukrainian lad , is also a male model and said to be a Rent Boy (male prostitute) , the question is being asked how did a foreign lad know where Starmers house was , the car he owns and an unknown to most people other property were ?
I's rumoured The Sun have audio recordings possibly from the suspect.
RE: Reform UK Just Destroyed the Uni Party - UK Fights Back - F2d5thCav - 05-19-2025
The UK and the continent are in trouble. Deep trouble.
I don't see a good ending in any of this. These people will be virtue signaling on the tip of the stern of the ship as it slips under the waves.
RE: Reform UK Just Destroyed the Uni Party - UK Fights Back - Ninurta - 05-19-2025
(05-19-2025, 04:10 PM)gortex Wrote:Quote:Posted by BIAD
When one looks at political optics and how the public can convinced via manipulated 'logical-inference',
one might see Prime Minister' Starmer's latest rascality as genuine thumb-nose to the general public.
No doubt the other remoaners will be delighted by the move to dismiss the Democratically mandated move away from the EU mate although Brexiteers may have the last laugh.
The arson attack last week on Starmer's house , car and another property linked to the Dear Leader may have more significance than just being a targeted arson , you have perhaps seen the rumours but for those who haven't it turns out the arsonist , a 21 year old Ukrainian lad , is also a male model and said to be a Rent Boy (male prostitute) , the question is being asked how did a foreign lad know where Starmers house was , the car he owns and an unknown to most people other property were ?
I's rumoured The Sun have audio recordings possibly from the suspect.
In my opinion, it's a shame they missed Comrade Stalin Starmer. I think the world would be a better place without him.
I rarely form opinions about foreign politicians, but in the case of extreme enemies of the people, like little Kimmie, Castro, Daniel Ortega,Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot, that FNG in Canada, and Comrade Starmer, I make exceptions.
I believe Britain took a terrible turn for the worse when they allowed Komrade Starmer to seize power, and think the peasants should be out in full force with pitchforks and torches right about now. No telling what other damage he has in store for the British people if left unchecked.
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RE: Reform UK Just Destroyed the Uni Party - UK Fights Back - gortex - 05-19-2025
Richard Tice MP on Starmer's EU sell out.
Quote:STARMERS GREAT SURRENDER
His Reform position pill clause shows how terrified he is
We will reverse this appalling deal
It even gives us higher energy bills by adding us to EU emissions trading scheme
https://x.com/TiceRichard/status/1924450045279002805?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
There's an anti Reform clause in the agreement which would allow the EU to implement sanctions against the UK if Reform UK win power and try to change the agreement.
RE: Reform UK Just Destroyed the Uni Party - UK Fights Back - Ninurta - 05-20-2025
(05-19-2025, 05:27 PM)gortex Wrote: Richard Tice MP on Starmer's EU sell out.
Quote:STARMERS GREAT SURRENDER
His Reform position pill clause shows how terrified he is
We will reverse this appalling deal
It even gives us higher energy bills by adding us to EU emissions trading scheme
https://x.com/TiceRichard/status/1924450045279002805?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
There's an anti Reform clause in the agreement which would allow the EU to implement sanctions against the UK if Reform UK win power and try to change the agreement.
That doesn't seem very legitimate. The reason folks change governments is because they want to see the governing go a different way. That's sort of like tying the hands of any new government to insure that they can't, you know, govern...
Why bother having governments if the governed are going to let foreigners tell them just how it's going to be? I.e. if they are going to let foreigners govern, why bother with a domestic sham of a government?
These international "agreements" and treaties are basically just contracts, and contracts are broken all the time, or withdrawn from. This clause that allows the EU to pretty much take over the government of the UK does not seem to be legal, or enforceable.
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RE: Reform UK Just Destroyed the Uni Party - UK Fights Back - BIAD - 05-20-2025
(05-19-2025, 04:10 PM)gortex Wrote: ...The arson attack last week on Starmer's house , car and another property linked to the Dear Leader
may have more significance than just being a targeted arson , you have perhaps seen the rumours
but for those who haven't it turns out the arsonist , a 21 year old Ukrainian lad , is also a male model
and said to be a Rent Boy (male prostitute) , the question is being asked how did a foreign lad know
where Starmers house was , the car he owns and an unknown to most people other property were ?
It's rumoured The Sun have audio recordings possibly from the suspect.
Roman Lavrynovych and a second arrested young man, Stanislav Carpiuc.
Do they look like the arsonist type or lean more towards modelling?
Source:
RE: Reform UK Just Destroyed the Uni Party - UK Fights Back - gortex - 05-20-2025
What Starmer has done with this deal isn't legitimate it's personal mate , he was against Brexit so now he's in the big chair he's changing what he believes was wrong , even members of his own party aren't happy at him sidelining the voice of the people.
The EU is run by Leftists , the German government have designated their right wing opposition the AFD as an 'extremist' party following an "investigation" by their security farce because that's the first step toward banning them and stopping the threat as AFD were projected to do well in next years election , in March this year France banned banned Marine Le Pen from running for political office for five years because her party are polling better than the French Left , I expect Starmer has MI5 looking into Reform with the aim of doing what the Germans have done to his only rival.
RE: Reform UK Just Destroyed the Uni Party - UK Fights Back - gortex - 05-20-2025
The first voter intention poll to be done in Wales by yougov since last years election shows Labour pushed into 3rd place with Plaid Cymru leading with 30% , Reform UK 25% and Welsh Labour 18%.
https://yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/52116-first-yougov-voting-intention-in-wales-since-2024-general-election-shows-collapse-in-labour-support
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I think he'll be gone before Christmas but if not the loss of Wales next May would be the final straw for the Labour party.
RE: Reform UK Just Destroyed the Uni Party - UK Fights Back - BIAD - 05-21-2025
Someone once said 'They're Not Sending Their Best'...
RE: Reform UK Just Destroyed the Uni Party - UK Fights Back - F2d5thCav - 05-21-2025
Starmer is representative of a class of "professional politicians" who come under the control of unelected interests.
Certainly not only a UK phenomenon, it is all over the West.
Are we being buttered up for a return to a feudal system with arbitrary rule exercised by the "haves" and the rest of us playing the role of serfs ? It sure looks that way. People will be so fed up with the excesses and failures of their supposed "representatives" that they will greet the return of a feudal regime with huge applause.
Kind of makes one wonder why so many gave their lives in the wars of the 20th century. I don't think they made the ultimate sacrifice to bring about the dysfunction we now see.
RE: Reform UK Just Destroyed the Uni Party - UK Fights Back - BIAD - 05-21-2025
...And just for the symmetry of it, here's the fire-hungry other chap. Ukrainian national Petro Pochynok.
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RE: Reform UK Just Destroyed the Uni Party - UK Fights Back - gortex - 05-21-2025
(05-21-2025, 11:15 AM)BIAD Wrote: Someone once said 'They're Not Sending Their Best'...
Labour back benchers are already unhappy with the Dear Leader reports are his betrayal of the Democratically voted for separation with the EU has made them unhappier which is no doubt why Starmer is talking about looking again at the pensioners Winter fuel payment cut .... sorry Kier I don't think that is going to cut it , you're still toast.
Migrant camp in Park Lane , London.
RE: Reform UK Just Destroyed the Uni Party - UK Fights Back - gortex - 05-23-2025
More bad news for Labour the latest opinion poll shows if an election were held tomorrow Reform UK would form the next government.
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https://x.com/FindoutnowUK/status/1925582222653825288
Most hated government ever in just 10 months , I congratulate Labour on achieving something.
RE: Reform UK Just Destroyed the Uni Party - UK Fights Back - gortex - 05-28-2025
Prospective London Mayoral candidate Ant Middleton.
Quote:Let me repeat myself once again and it won’t be the last time you hear this from me…
We (Great Britain) are NOT a multicultural country! We are a British cultured country (the clue is in the title) accepting and respectful of multiculturalism as long as all other cultures are accepting and respectful (first and foremost) of ours! If you are not then Great Britain probably isn’t the place for you and that’s fine. Embrace it or leave it!
https://x.com/antmiddleton/status/1912845377243693319
So true.
RE: Reform UK Just Destroyed the Uni Party - UK Fights Back - Cvastar - 05-29-2025
Late to this thread, but I certainly hope Brits can take their country back. However, it looks like a long haul to me and the biggest problems I see are that 1) Labour can and will further corrupt the election processes and 2) assuming Brits do take their country back the question will be......is there enough of it left to actually work with. I'm seeing two trends that put any meaningful recover in serious doubt. First, the economy is gutted and second, everyone and anyone with money is leaving and in droves!
RE: Reform UK Just Destroyed the Uni Party - UK Fights Back - gortex - 05-29-2025
No doubt our economy is in bad shape mate but also no doubt a dose of DOGE will help that out , Reform are already doing it in Councils they won earlier this month.
I also agree Labour will try to find a fix for their Reform problem as France and Germany have for their Right Wing opposition but suppressing the voice of the people has been shown to not end well.
Although I no longer support Reform 100% I do believe they are currently our only hope of regaining control of our borders and Country , don't write us off yet it I think this Country is more politically aware now than it has ever been and ready for change.
RE: Reform UK Just Destroyed the Uni Party - UK Fights Back - gortex - 05-30-2025
Labour's Attorney General Lord Richard Hermer KC has compared anyone who wants to leave the migrant friendly European Court of Human Rights to those in 1930s Nazi Germany.
Quote:“This is not a new song,” he said.
“The claim that international law is fine as far as it goes, but can be put aside when conditions change, is a claim that was made in the early 1930s by ‘realist’ jurists in Germany, most notably Carl Schmitt, whose central thesis was in essence the claim that state power is all that counts, not law.”
Lord Hermer also said that because of what happened “in 1933, far-sighted individuals rebuilt and transformed the institutions of international law”. That is the year that Adolf Hitler became German chancellor.
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/attorney-general-compares-calls-leave-225616904.html
So you don't want a foreign court to have primacy over British Supreme court decisions , then you Sir are a Nazi.
Quote:Born and raised in Wales to a Jewish family, Hermer attended Cardiff High School.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Hermer,_Baron_Hermer
Hmmmm , Nazis eh ? , bet he never compared the Israeli concentration camp in Gaza to Nazism.
Smart arsed reporter asks Nigel Farage a question about how Reform will fund their recent policy announcements then gets schooled.
RE: Reform UK Just Destroyed the Uni Party - UK Fights Back - gortex - 05-30-2025
Reform UK have taken another Council , on Thursday Reform took Canvey Island Winter Gardens from independent control.
REF: 53.1% (+53.1)
CON: 17.3% (+1.3)
IndGrp: 14.9% (-22.7)
LAB: 9.8% (-2.8)
GRN: 5.0% (-6.1)
https://x.com/BritainElects/status/1928228950624391320
These little battles will win the war , Starmer is terrified as Reform also won its first seat on Carmarthenshire County Council , Welsh election are due next year if Labour lose control they are finished.
RE: Reform UK Just Destroyed the Uni Party - UK Fights Back - Ninurta - 05-30-2025
(05-30-2025, 11:19 AM)gortex Wrote: ...
So you don't want a foreign court to have primacy over British Supreme court decisions , then you Sir are a Nazi.
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NO foreign court should ever have primacy over ANY local jurisdictions. Back when I was a young man, that was considered to be part of a "foreign occupation", and usually sparked off underground resistance movements.
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