(10-30-2024, 04:32 PM)FlickerOfLight Wrote: Well, it's almost that time. Halloween eve.

I've had this on my mind off and on for ya. I've put together every connection I could come up with, but don't think I'm even close to what you're shooting for Herr.

Time, location, some historical events, like plagues, as well as rulers of the time, are the only solid connections I've come up with.

I do remember hearing something long ago about how Mary Shelly's Frankenstein's monster character was actually a metaphor for something twisted, but I can't remember what it was.

I also picked up a new tidbit from watching a few vampire movies recently. I watched Bram Strokers Dracula, and noticed something i hadn't picked up on before. Count Dracula was a part of something called "The Order of the Dragon."
I watched Fright Night, the 2011 remake, the other night (not near as good as the original) and noticed the vampire character had a signet ring on, and they kept showing this ring repeatedly. After pausing the movie just right, and then zooming in, I noticed that ring had something like a dragon on it, but looked like something the rings freemasons wear. I wondered if it was some reference to that vampire being part of a secret society as well. This would mean vampires are members of a secret order.
Bram Strokers Dracula character was even something like a Knights Templar, before he became the undead. He was "protecting the church" before his true love dies by suicide, and becomes the undead. He cursed God, denounces his faith, drinks blood, and becomes an immortal blood sucking vampire.

I wonder if any of that will play into your thesis.

Inquiring minds are hoping you lay out something we can chew on for a bit. You've got a good build up going.

Drum roll, please...

Cheers

(10-31-2024, 12:00 AM)Ninurta Wrote:

(10-30-2024, 04:32 PM)FlickerOfLight Wrote: Well, it's almost that time. Halloween eve.

I've had this on my mind off and on for ya. I've put together every connection I could come up with, but don't think I'm even close to what you're shooting for Herr.

Time, location, some historical events, like plagues, as well as rulers of the time, are the only solid connections I've come up with.

I do remember hearing something long ago about how Mary Shelly's Frankenstein's monster character was actually a metaphor for something twisted, but I can't remember what it was.

I also picked up a new tidbit from watching a few vampire movies recently. I watched Bram Strokers Dracula, and noticed something i hadn't picked up on before. Count Dracula was a part of something called "The Order of the Dragon."
I watched Fright Night, the 2011 remake, the other night (not near as good as the original) and noticed the vampire character had a signet ring on, and they kept showing this ring repeatedly. After pausing the movie just right, and then zooming in, I noticed that ring had something like a dragon on it, but looked like something the rings freemasons wear. I wondered if it was some reference to that vampire being part of a secret society as well. This would mean vampires are members of a secret order.
Bram Strokers Dracula character was even something like a Knights Templar, before he became the undead. He was "protecting the church" before his true love dies by suicide, and becomes the undead. He cursed God, denounces his faith, drinks blood, and becomes an immortal blood sucking vampire.

I wonder if any of that will play into your thesis.

Inquiring minds are hoping you lay out something we can chew on for a bit. You've got a good build up going.

Drum roll, please...

Cheers

Regarding the dragon references, "Dracul", as in Vlad Dracul, means "The Dragon", and "Dracula" means "The Little Dragon".

Referring to the incident where the "true love" of Dracula commits suicide, Vlad Dracul's wife in the real world did commit suicide by jumping from a parapet down the cliff into the ravine below at his castle at Poenari... but I don't think "love" was a factor in their marriage, true love or no.There are many reports of "ghost lights" or orbs at Poenari, and the locals won't go up there after dark for fear of the spooks that haunt the place, which they believe to be malevolent.

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(10-30-2024, 04:32 PM)FlickerOfLight Wrote: Well, it's almost that time. Halloween eve.

I've had this on my mind off and on for ya. I've put together every connection I could come up with, but don't think I'm even close to what you're shooting for Herr.

Time, location, some historical events, like plagues, as well as rulers of the time, are the only solid connections I've come up with.

I do remember hearing something long ago about how Mary Shelly's Frankenstein's monster character was actually a metaphor for something twisted, but I can't remember what it was.

I also picked up a new tidbit from watching a few vampire movies recently. I watched Bram Strokers Dracula, and noticed something i hadn't picked up on before. Count Dracula was a part of something called "The Order of the Dragon."
I watched Fright Night, the 2011 remake, the other night (not near as good as the original) and noticed the vampire character had a signet ring on, and they kept showing this ring repeatedly. After pausing the movie just right, and then zooming in, I noticed that ring had something like a dragon on it, but looked like something the rings freemasons wear. I wondered if it was some reference to that vampire being part of a secret society as well. This would mean vampires are members of a secret order.
Bram Strokers Dracula character was even something like a Knights Templar, before he became the undead. He was "protecting the church" before his true love dies by suicide, and becomes the undead. He cursed God, denounces his faith, drinks blood, and becomes an immortal blood sucking vampire.

I wonder if any of that will play into your thesis.

Inquiring minds are hoping you lay out something we can chew on for a bit. You've got a good build up going.

Drum roll, please...

Cheers

(11-04-2024, 10:56 PM)Michigan Swamp Buck Wrote: I finally put the essay up online. For anyone who wants to check it out, here is a link below . . .

Gothic Horror and the End of Feudal Age Europe

Let me know what you think. I shorted it up, edited it, and added a couple of pictures.

(11-06-2024, 12:47 PM)Michigan Swamp Buck Wrote: Thanks for everyone's comments, it helped me add to and edit my essay. It also gave me more food for thought.

Did anyone notice my thanks to Rogue-Nation in tiny print at the bottom of the page after the copyright notice?

(11-08-2024, 04:59 PM)Michigan Swamp Buck Wrote: Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought that these feudal kingdoms went to war and then payed off their knights with land from conquered territory. They now own the land and everything on it, including the people that have lived there through every other lord or king that had ruled before the new bunch. The land and the people of the land are owned by the local lord or baron who collected taxes for themselves and the monarchy. Plus the land provided people for the on going war efforts.

So, as comparison, I can own land, but have to pay tribute to keep it in the form of property taxes. If the government needs my property, eminent domain can take it from me as well. If a war breaks out and I am able bodied and of a certain age range I could be drafted to fight in said war.

I guess I can think of a few more if I tried a little harder.