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RE: 2nd Attempt On Trump - 727Sky - 09-18-2024

Quote:Ryan Wesley Routh is a patsy groomed by the deep state to carry out a hit on Donald Trump says Ex-CIA Michael Scheuer.

There are just to many indicators pointing to Routh being sponsored by some party to kill Trump. First class airplane ticket from Hawaii bought by a dude who makes $3000 a month doing roofing..... that monthly salary must include all the time he was globe trotting trying to recruit mercenaries to fight for Ukraine.

The deep state wants Trump out of the picture or their house of cards may come to a devastating fall down event.

The weapon he had was an SKS .... I owned 2 and they are more accurate that any AK I have ever shot or owned.



RE: 2nd Attempt On Trump - SomeJackleg - 09-23-2024

(09-18-2024, 12:13 PM)727Sky Wrote:
Quote:Ryan Wesley Routh is a patsy groomed by the deep state to carry out a hit on Donald Trump says Ex-CIA Michael Scheuer.

There are just to many indicators pointing to Routh being sponsored by some party to kill Trump. First class airplane ticket from Hawaii bought by a dude who makes $3000 a month doing roofing..... that monthly salary must include all the time he was globe trotting trying to recruit mercenaries to fight for Ukraine.

The deep state wants Trump out of the picture or their house of cards may come to a devastating fall down event.

The weapon he had was an SKS .... I owned 2 and they are more accurate that any AK I have ever shot or owned.

pretty it's a sks sporter released picture of the rifle, if memory serves they come in 18, 20 and 22 inch barrel lengths. i'm guessing this is a 20 or 22 barrel.

[Image: sks-sporter.png]

wonder if that some home made pos eye protector on the ass end of the scope

and apparently he left a letter with details and offering 150k if he didn't succeed.

Man suspected of assassination attempt against Trump left a letter detailing his plans, prosecutors say 

this link below (warning opens a PDF, didn't trigger ant virus or make of of my shields go bonkers} has the picture above and a more clear one that was taken by the fence. the 150 k is on page seven.

Charging Document


RE: 2nd Attempt On Trump - Ninurta - 09-24-2024

(09-23-2024, 08:29 PM)SomeJackleg Wrote: pretty it's a sks sporter released picture of the rifle, if memory serves they come in 18, 20 and 22 inch barrel lengths. i'm guessing this is a 20 or 22 barrel.

[Image: sks-sporter.png]

wonder if that some home made pos eye protector on the ass end of the scope

and apparently he left a letter with details and offering 150k if he didn't succeed.

Man suspected of assassination attempt against Trump left a letter detailing his plans, prosecutors say 

this link below (warning opens a PDF, didn't trigger ant virus or make of of my shields go bonkers} has the picture above and a more clear one that was taken by the fence. the 150 k is on page seven.

Charging Document

Holy shit, will ya just look at that thing!

The object on the ass end of the scope does appear to be home-made out of cardboard or something, but I think it was meant to be a sun shade rather than any kind of eye protector. On a full powered gun - one not firing an intermediate cartridge like 7.62x39 - anything on that end of the scope may black your eye at the best - gouge it out or gash your eyebrow or cheek at the worst. For a sun shade, it's on the wrong end of the scope. Sunshades are meant to prevent glare on the objective lens - the lens at the front of the scope, closest to the target.

But that's just a minor thing, one that demonstrates he's got no damned business within 100 yards of a gun. Much worse is his scope attachment. It's not. It looks like it's held in place with a couple wraps of electrical tape around the scope, receiver, and stock.

Electrical tape. Not scope mounts, not even duct tape. Just... electrical tape. Stretchy electrical tape.

Can't much count on a scope to hold a  zero like that. I've got a better scope, and MUCH better scope mounts, on my dinky little .22 rifle.

It's almost as if the only thing he was serious about was getting caught... OR providing a distraction from... something else...

Is the roofing business so bad in Hawaii that a guy has to contemplate an extended stay in Club Fed to be able to count on eating? If not, then the alternative question is: what was he trying to distract folks from?

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RE: 2nd Attempt On Trump - SomeJackleg - 09-24-2024

(09-24-2024, 01:55 AM)Ninurta Wrote: But that's just a minor thing, one that demonstrates he's got no damned business within 100 yards of a gun. Much worse is his scope attachment. It's not. It looks like it's held in place with a couple wraps of electrical tape around the scope, receiver, and stock.

Electrical tape. Not scope mounts, not even duct tape. Just... electrical tape. Stretchy electrical tape.

yeah i saw that, i was thinking big ass hose clamps with rubber sleeves for the scope mount, like these.


[Image: ruber-hose-clamp.png]


Norma Rubber protection EPDM C-Profile

if you look at this enlarged picture of the rifle up against the fence, it sure looks like screw head just above the trigger, and the  evidence one appears to be something silver looking going under the receiver behind / rear of the  the trigger guard that looks like something stainless to me.

[Image: sks2.png]

[Image: sks-sporter-2.png]
there was a term or two used when i was a kid, i won't post them here just use a similar one, somejackleg rigging, or somejackleg engineering.


RE: 2nd Attempt On Trump - 727Sky - 09-24-2024

The Ingraham Angle' panelists Matthew Whitaker and James Fitzgerald discuss the DOJ releasing an alleged letter written by suspected would-be Trump assassin Ryan Routh.



RE: 2nd Attempt On Trump - EndtheMadnessNow - 09-24-2024

The son of Ryan Routh, Oran Alexander Routh has been taken into custody on federal charges of possessing child porn. I wonder what else they found that will probably never be revealed.

AP wire


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NY Post


RE: 2nd Attempt On Trump - 727Sky - 09-24-2024

(09-24-2024, 08:19 PM)EndtheMadnessNow Wrote: The son of Ryan Routh, Oran Alexander Routh has been taken into custody on federal charges of possessing child porn. I wonder what else they found that will probably never be revealed.

AP wire


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NY Post

Where have we heard those charges levied at anyone the government wants to capture ? If true then fine, good work, if not, then it is just another FBI sting operation.


RE: 2nd Attempt On Trump - 727Sky - 09-27-2024




RE: 2nd Attempt On Trump - 727Sky - 10-13-2024

https://www.pressenterprise.com/2024/10/13/las-vegas-man-found-with-loaded-firearm-high-capacity-magazine-near-trump-rally-in-coachella-valley/
Trump assassination attempt at Coachella Valley rally thwarted when man with weapons arrested, Riverside sheriff says

Quote:A third assassination attempt against former President Donald Trump was thwarted on Saturday after a Las Vegas man was arrested with weapons and fake passes about a half mile from Trump’s campaign rally in Coachella Valley, Riverside County Sheriff Chad Bianco said Sunday. But the man who had the weapons told a reporter he is a Trump supporter who bought them for his own safety and notified police at a checkpoint that they were in the trunk of his car.
Deputies assigned to Trump’s rally said the driver, Vem Miller, rolled up in a black SUV to a checkpoint at the intersection of Avenue 52 and Celebration Drive around 5 p.m. He was found to be in illegal possession of a shotgun, loaded handgun, and a high-capacity magazine, the Riverside County Sheriff’s Department said in a news release.
Bianco told the Southern California News Group on Sunday that he believes Miller — who he said is a member of a right–leaning anti-government group — planned to kill Trump and that deputies thwarted the plan when Miller presented fake VIP and press passes at a checkpoint.
“They were different enough to cause the deputies alarm,” Bianco said. “We probably stopped another assassination attempt.”
Miller, in an interview with Southern California News Group on Sunday, said he was “shocked” that he was arrested and accused of trying to harm Trump, who he supports. He said he was at the rally on a “special entry pass” provided by a Republican Party associate. He said he never had a problem in Nevada, where he also attended Trump rallies with weapons in his trunk and was waved through, and thought the law in California would also allow for that.
Miller is a registered Republican who holds a master’s degree from UCLA, and who ran for state assembly in Nevada in 2022. He lost in the primary.
He told the Las Vegas Review-Journal at the time that he was running because “this country has been taken over by tyranny.” He said he supported more electric car manufacturing in Nevada and solar energy but also would want to focus on election security issues if he had been elected to office, including strengthening voter ID laws and implementing paper ballots again.
Miller runs The America Happens Network, whose motto is “Rage against the mainstream media.”
On his LinkedIn, he wrote, “For 20 years +, I have been working in the media as an investigative journalist, documentary filmmaker, and a content producer … I have seen our rights be taken, while the power of big government grows. I have seen small businesses and the middle class be squashed. I have seen unlawful mandates and politicians acting like dictators. I have also seen how the power of the money flows through politics and a political class that no longer works for We The People.”
Bianco said Miller considers himself a so-called sovereign citizen, a group of people who do not believe they are subject to any government statutes unless they consent to them. Miller denied that.
The Sheriff’s Department set up what Bianco called a double perimeter that controlled access within a half mile of the rally. Residents were allowed through, but they were watched to make sure they drove to their neighborhoods and not toward the rally.
Miller was apprehended at one of those checkpoints.
Bianco said that the last he heard, Miller had not made any statements to investigators.
The sheriff said he is in disbelief.
“I thought it’s not going to happen in Riverside County. We don’t have the same sicko issues and violent protests like they have in Los Angeles. We’re better than that. Go figure.”
Bianco said U.S. Secret Service officials said his department went “above and beyond” in their efforts to protect Trump and others who attended the rally.
“I am extremely proud of the mental and physical effort our deputies showed all day,” said Bianco, who noted high temperatures in the desert area were near 100 degrees.
Bianco also said the FBI is questioning another man after bomb-detecting dogs “repeatedly” identified him as possibly dangerous. That man was not allowed in the rally, Bianco said.
Miller was booked at the John J. Benoit Detention Center for possessing a loaded firearm and high-capacity magazine, authorities said.
He was released Saturday on $5,000 bail and is scheduled to appear at the Indio Larson Justice Center on Jan. 2, 2025, according to the Riverside County Sheriff’s Department inmate database.
The Secret Service put out a brief statement saying it was aware of the arrest. “The incident did not impact protective operations. The Secret Service extends its gratitude to the deputies and local partners who assisted in safeguarding last night’s events,” the agency said.
In September, 58-year-old Ryan Wesley Routh was charged with attempting to assassinate Trump as the former president played golf. U.S. Secret Service agents found Routh with a high-powered rifle on Sept. 15 outside Trump International Golf Club in Palm Beach. Agents spotted the barrel of his weapon in the bushes and fired at him before he fled.
On July 13, 2024, at a rally near Butler, Pennsylvania, Matthew Crooks shot at Trump with an AR-15–style rifle from a nearby rooftop as Trump gave a campaign speech. Crooks hit Trump’s ear with a shot and killed one attendee while critically injuring two others before Crooks was killed by Secret Service counter-sniper agents.



RE: 2nd Attempt On Trump - Ninurta - 10-14-2024

(10-13-2024, 09:45 PM)727Sky Wrote: https://www.pressenterprise.com/2024/10/13/las-vegas-man-found-with-loaded-firearm-high-capacity-magazine-near-trump-rally-in-coachella-valley/
Trump assassination attempt at Coachella Valley rally thwarted when man with weapons arrested, Riverside sheriff says

I have my doubts that was an actual assassination attempt. I'd say it was just a not-overly-bright guy that either thought wrong or didn't think at all. Why on Earth would someone drive from Nevada to California with weapons that are "illegal" in California, and then go to a political rally where they know they're gonna be checked? That doesn't sound like a brilliant plan or a criminal mastermind to me.

Why would one try an assassination attempt with a shotgun instead of something he could snipe with, like a rifle? Shotgunsd are not typically small enough to conceal inside a crowd and don't have the range necessary to try to take out a target from outside a crowd.

I'm not really up on Cali laws, since I'm never going to set foot inside that state again, but I think what they call a "high capacity" magazine is anything that holds over 10 rounds there, which includes ALL modern pistols. The last pistol I owned that held less than 13+1 was an old broken down government issued Colt 1911 that was manufactured for WWII. It was a true dinosaur, and held only 7+1. I only owned it a couple of months before I was so disgusted that I just plain gave it away, didn't even charge a dime for it.

My current sidearm holds 17 rounds in the mag as standard, although I do have a few bigger mags - some 20 round and some 32 round, that might be classified as actual "high capacity" since they hold more than the standard 17 rounds. I did look for a 10 round magazine for it a few months ago when I thought I might have to fake some commie-compliance, but was unsuccessful. They don't make mags for it that hold less than 17 rounds.

So all he had was an unloaded shotgun and a pistol loaded with a "high capacity" (actually a standard capacity) magazine...

... and he told the cops at the checkpoint that he had them.

Nope, not criminal mastermind material there.

My guess is that this was just a standard California arrest, and they publicized it looking for "attaboys" after the bad press they've been getting of late. I'd say they're just trying to spin it up into something it ain't for the "attaboys".

That's not to say there aren't folks out there interested in killing Trump, because there are. Probably lots of 'em., and I do expect a few more genuine attempts as we get closer to election Day.  I just think this particular one is a red herring, publicized for whatever reason.

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