(07-14-2024, 03:45 AM)SomeJackleg Wrote:

(07-14-2024, 02:21 AM)Ninurta Wrote:

(07-14-2024, 01:28 AM)SomeJackleg Wrote: abc news is saying that reports have come in saying it was a M4 style rifle, 8 shots fired from 200 to 300 yards from a elevated position, M4 Style could be any caliber.

regardless, seeing how they already labeled it, i expect new gun ban rhetoric is fixing to start and seeing how trump just won the election, i wouldn't doubt he jumps on it to.

I expect they'll give it a go at another ban attempt, too. Whether Trump jumps on that bandwagon is anyone's guess, but I believe it would be a mistake to jeopardize his sure bet at re-election by dog-piling on to that Leftist anti-gun rhetoric.

They won't get it done, of course, because if they did, as high as emotions and the Left-Right schism are at the moment, there would probably be a lot more holes starting to appear in politicians if they looked likely to shred the Constitution like that.

Odd. 8 shots fired, and from what I'm hearing they came from beyond the top right corner of the bandstand behind Trump... both casualties mentioned so far were also in that area. So where are the casualties from the crowd IN FRONT of Trump, where the bullets should have landed?

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Quote:I expect they'll give it a go at another ban attempt, too. Whether Trump jumps on that bandwagon is anyone's guess, but I believe it would be a mistake to jeopardize his sure bet at re-election by dog-piling on to that Leftist anti-gun rhetoric.

you never know, he banned bump stocks which to me are about useless and really severe no purpose or than being a toy, going against the NRA. but still he could use the this to pull even more support from this than he just got from the left. whether or not he would follow through with it is the question

Quote:They won't get it done, of course, because if they did, as high as emotions and the Left-Right schism are at the moment, there would probably be a lot more holes starting to appear in politicians if they looked likely to shred the Constitution like that.

to be honest i'm surprised we haven't seen that already, country is crazy now and i do't think it can go on much longer.

Quote:Odd. 8 shots fired, and from what I'm hearing they came from beyond the top right corner of the bandstand behind Trump... both casualties mentioned so far were also in that area. So where are the casualties from the crowd IN FRONT of Trump, where the bullets should have landed?

i'll have to find some of the images i saw. one is a birds eye view of the distance from the stands to the roof, image say 150 yards, reports on the news say 150 and one 130 yards. and the build is slightly forward from the poduim right hand side i take it the people looking right are looking at the Secret Service anipers when they fired because you can see them behind the satnd in some of the images.

one image i saw are the is of the ER doctor with blood all over him that tried to save the rally goer and him lying on the steps and anther guy talking or looking at him. and it appeared to be to the right side of trump was.

'll go back and see if i can find those.  but in the mean time here is a video that shows the shooter blurred out and some sort of AR platform lying on  the roof.

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(07-14-2024, 02:56 AM)Schmoe Wrote: I haven't read this thread yet, but how could a shooter get onto that roof undetected?  It's the MOST obvious spot for somebody to try something.  

If you look at the rally point on satellite view, there's nothing but residential neighborhood behind where Trump was standing.  I can't believe the Secret Service could drop the ball that badly.

he wasn't there is a video of a guy telling a BBC reporter that he and some friends were telling the cops and Secret they saw the guy walking up carrying a rifle and crawling on the roof. he doesn't think the SS guys could see him at first because of the slope of the roof and their angle to it.

i'll try to find that one to.

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here is a video of the ER doctor,




Guy telling BBC reporter about shooter,

Witness says he saw gunman on roof near Trump rally

still looking for the others, will post them when i find them again.

two for the distance from roof to podium





not sure if this is one of the two injured or the one that died but you can see the ER doctor at the bottom

(07-14-2024, 09:59 AM)727Sky Wrote: Someone with the police or the SS will get burned and rightly so as the shooter was out in the open and seen before he was in position and shots were fired !

Already talk about a possible inside job.. The problem for some is they would nor put anything past the deep state in planning such an operation..

(07-14-2024, 11:05 AM)Ninurta Wrote: As I sit pondering, I stumbled across the idea that maybe, just maybe, the little shit either registered Republican or changed his registration to it while plotting this shooting out, just as a way of throwing shade and confusion.

Or, maybe he did it to impress someone - a girl, a parent, whatever, and it went wrong...

Whatever the reason, it's certainly a very un-Republican act to try killing off the Republican front runner, and that is bugging me.

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(07-14-2024, 11:11 AM)727Sky Wrote: Well the good news is he missed and his reward is he is just another dead M.F.

I am just sorry he was not dead sooner

Quote:Rev 13:3
One of his heads appeared to be fatally wounded, but his fatal wound was healed. The whole earth was amazed and followed the beast.

Quote:The top political adviser to Democratic mega-donor Reid Hoffman suggested that the attack on Donald Trump could have been “staged,” even as Hoffman was criticized for joking before Saturday’s attack about Trump becoming a “martyr.”

Hoffman, the founder of LinkedIn, whose net worth is reportedly $2.5 billion, joked at last week’s billionaire confab in Sun Valley that he wished he had made Trump “an actual martyr.” Sunday, he said on X that he was referring to “accountability to the rule of law” and that he’s “horrified and saddened” by the attack.

The scale of Hoffman’s political donations isn’t public but the political adviser, Dmitri Mehlhorn, said on a recent private conference call that “Reed and I have invested nine figures of our own money to prevent Trump from getting back into office.” (The money appears to be largely Hoffman’s.)

In an email Saturday at 7:34 pm that appeared to be addressed to sympathetic journalists, and which was also sent to Semafor, Mehlhorn wrote that one “possibility -- which feels horrific and alien and absurd in America, but is quite common globally -- is that this ‘shooting’ was encouraged and maybe even staged so Trump could get the photos and benefit from the backlash. This is a classic Russian tactic, such as when Putin killed 300 civilians in 1999 and blamed it on terrorists to ride the backlash to winning power. Others who have embraced this tactic of committing raw evil and then benefitting from the backlash include Hamas on October 7. If any Trump officials encouraged or knew of this attack, that is morally horrific, and Republicans of decency must demand that Trump step down as unfit.”

The other possibility, Mehlhorn wrote, “is that some crazy anti-Trumper in this chaotic moment decided to assassinate the former President.”

Mehlhorn, who co-founded a fund called “Investing in US” with Hoffman, made clear his impulse was toward the false flag theory. “I know I am prone to bias on this, but this is a classic Putin play and given the facts seems more plausible. Look at the actual shot. Look at the staging. Look at how ready Trump is to rally; this pampered baby shit his pants when an eagle lunged at his food. Look at how quickly Trump protects himself at the expense of others, but showed few of those lifelong instincts in this moment. And consider how often Putin and his allies run this play.”

Top Democratic strategist pushed reporters to consider ‘staged’ shooting

(07-14-2024, 06:59 PM)BIAD Wrote: Merely a thought-provoking banner.

(07-14-2024, 06:54 PM)Ninurta Wrote: I personally think it was just the luck of the draw for Mr. Trump. Life does that to us some times, although some folks do seem to lead a more charmed life than others. Still, taking it to the level of Divine Intervention seemsi have had to lock myself 8. to be something of an over-reach to me.

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(07-14-2024, 07:36 PM)Ninurta Wrote:

(07-14-2024, 06:59 PM)BIAD Wrote: Merely a thought-provoking banner.

I like the way BIAD worked the ghost of Teddy Roosevelt in there! Roosevelt was a bastard, too, but he was a tough bastard, and OUR bastard. I saw, out in the wilds of the internet, where someone else compared Trump to Roosevelt after he came back up defiant immediately after being shot.

I gotta tell ya true - I'd have likely been too busy pissin' all over myself to have demonstrated that sort of defiance. I like to THINK not, but am all too aware of my limitations!

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(07-14-2024, 08:11 PM)NightskyeB4Dawn Wrote:

(07-14-2024, 06:54 PM)Ninurta Wrote: I personally think it was just the luck of the draw for Mr. Trump. Life does that to us some times, although some folks do seem to lead a more charmed life than others. Still, taking it to the level of Divine Intervention seemsi have had to lock myself 8.  to be something of an over-reach to me.

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I have had to lock my door, draw my curtains, and hide in my bedroom, from some of my dear religious friends and family.

They are so enamored with Trump, that they idolize him. One of the things I think the Bible commands against. I will not be surprised to see the roaring lions pics, with fist raised and bloodied face, get replaced with those of him walking on water.

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