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RE: Some more UFO stuff - BIAD - 11-26-2023

Symington wasn't a big fan of James Forrestal!


RE: Some more UFO stuff - EndtheMadnessNow - 11-28-2023

They're really pushing this crap hard...

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CIA's secret office has conducted UFO retrieval missions on at least NINE crash sites around the world, whistleblowers reveal

Has to be "NINE" so say the council of Nine.

It appears that a graphics designer who has worked for Space Command and various defense & intelligence focused contractors designed a logo for a 2019 Office of Global Access all-hands meeting.

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Lindsi Bellomo - Graphic Designer


When searching the CIA site on "office of global access" you get zero results. LOL, so typical and of course they already jammed & manipulated the Google algo.


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Science, Technology and the CIA


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Roni Modica

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Doug Wolfe, Beacon Global Strategies

Oh boy, "Jacobs"! Now there is a deep Mil/IC/Aerospace rabbit hole similar to SAIC.



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Retired spooks, generals & admirals, you know this Org operates on multiple covert fronts.

Doug Wolfe is on the TransUnion Government Advisory Board and is now vice president and general manager within Jacobs’ Divergent Solutions operating unit.


TransUnion if you don't already know is an American consumer credit reporting agency. TransUnion collects and aggregates information on over one billion individual consumers in over thirty countries including "200 million files [2017] profiling nearly every credit-active consumer in the United States". Along with Experian and Equifax known as the "Big Three".

"We know who you are, We are everywhere.




Get in boys! We're gonna go rendition some UFOs.

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U.S. Air Force Special Tactics operators


RE: Some more UFO stuff - 727Sky - 11-29-2023

Interesting talk from Richard and the continuing lies



RE: Some more UFO stuff - BIAD - 11-29-2023

Could all this be just the hiding of a 'Baby-Avro'-style of drone...? A reduced version of the Project 1794 experiments?
Shy


RE: Some more UFO stuff - 727Sky - 11-30-2023




RE: Some more UFO stuff - EndtheMadnessNow - 12-01-2023

(11-29-2023, 02:11 PM)BIAD Wrote: Could all this be just the hiding of a 'Baby-Avro'-style of drone...? A reduced version of the Project 1794 experiments?
Shy


The Wiki page alone on the "Avro Canada VZ-9 Avrocar" gets the imagination running full tilt! I'm sure some of that early R&D has gone into various black projects after the project was cancelled.

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https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1729654845806727548

No, the answer is not ominous. It's the same we been hearing for decades.

The 4 Congress people stepped in front of a microphone and did nothing but whine:

"Boo-Hoo, the Deep State won't give us the evidence that we politely asked for."

Jeez, you guys barely figured that out just now?

And we pay you guys HOW MUCH to tell us this?

Lots of lip service and hot air runaround. Meet the IC's controlled opposition team. Lots of talk, lots of GOV-speak, lots of promises. I call it bullshit.


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https://twitter.com/JackSarfatti/status/1730244632993571304

His Amazon book link: The Great Race: Physics, Paranormal, Time Travel, UFOs

Sarfatti included these images:

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Competing UFO camps. I have no doubt Sarfatti is a smart guy, but he did a mountain of LSD back in the 60s. Though in this crazy upside down world I won't hold that against him. For an 84 yr old he has a lot of energy!

"In a mad world, only the mad are sane." - Akira Kurosawa Big Eyes


RE: Some more UFO stuff - 727Sky - 12-01-2023




RE: Some more UFO stuff - 727Sky - 12-02-2023




RE: Some more UFO stuff - EndtheMadnessNow - 12-02-2023

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Quote:At least 8 alleged UFO crash retrievals would be immediately declassified if UAPDA (as written) becomes law, unless explicitly blocked by Biden.

The provision in the UAPDA regarding UAP records older than 25 years operates under a presumption of automatic declassification, but it’s important to clarify the process and the role of the Review Board and the President in this context.

Presumption of Release:
Records older than 25 years are presumed to be declassified automatically. This means that, in principle, once any UAP record reaches the 25-year mark, it will be declassified without requiring a specific approval process by the review board. This means all UAP records before 1998 would carry this presumption on Day 1.

Immediate Action:
The UAPDA mandates that within 180 days of its enactment, certain actions must be initiated. This includes the process of declassifying relevant UAP records and establishing procedures for further disclosures.

Scope:
This deadline applies to a wide array of UAP records, including recent ones. The objective is to start the declassification process promptly, ensuring timely public access to significant UAP information.

The “No Later Than 25 Years” Rule:
This rule states that UAP records are to be automatically declassified no later than 25 years after their creation, unless specifically withheld by the President.

Misconception Clarified: It's important to note that this rule does not imply that new UAP records will be kept secret for 25 years. Rather, it sets a maximum limit on the secrecy of records. The intent is to prevent indefinite classification and ensure that all records are eventually reviewed for potential declassification.

Immediate vs. Long-Term Declassification:
While the 180-day deadline kickstarts the process of making UAP information available as soon as possible, the 25-year rule acts as a long-term safeguard, ensuring that no record remains classified indefinitely.

For advocates who still think that is too long, all that needs to change is to simply make that deadline earlier.

Continuous Process:
The process of declassifying UAP records is ongoing. New records created post-enactment of the UAPDA will be subject to review and potential declassification well before the 25-year mark, in line with the act's provisions and the discretion of the independent review board.

Role of the Review Board:
The independent review board established by the UAPDA primarily oversees the declassification process for newer records and ensures compliance with the act's mandates. For records older than 25 years, the board's role would involve ensuring these records are identified and processed into the National Archives according to the automatic declassification rule.

Presidential Exception Clause:
The President retains the authority to prevent the declassification of specific records, even if they are older than 25 years. (This is how executive authority related to declassification already operates in the current paradigm so this is not a UAPDA-specific issue. The Classification Reform Act which is also a part of this year's NDAA attempts to address this.)

Process:
If the President determines that the release of a specific UAP record older than 25 years would compromise national security, they can certify that this record should remain classified, thereby overriding the automatic declassification rule.

In summary, the UAPDA sets a framework for UAP records older than 25 years to be automatically declassified on Day 1, this process is subject to a significant exception: the President's authority to withhold declassification on grounds of national security. The review board’s primary function is the oversight of ongoing declassification processes and ensuring compliance with the act, rather than approving the release of these older records, which are presumed to be released unless specifically withheld by the President.


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https://twitter.com/uapcaucus/status/1730348705994453429

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The UAP mil/intel/political shenanigans coupled to UFOtwitter carnival is like an eternal rollercoaster, no love, but it's a helluva ride! You jump off, spin around and puke all over yourself, only to later jump right back on.  Laughing




RE: Some more UFO stuff - 727Sky - 12-05-2023

https://nypost.com/2023/12/01/news/dna-from-non-human-alien-corpses-is-from-unknown-species/amp/

Quote:DNA from ‘non-human’ alien corpses is from ‘unknown species,’ analysts claim

The mystery of the “non-human” mummified remains found in Peru deepened this week when an analyst claimed that 30% of its DNA is not human — but is rather from an “unknown species.”
Controversial journalist and UFO enthusiast José Jaime Maussan ushered in a team of scientists who performed a DNA analysis of the remains that found 30% of its genetic material is “not from any known species.”
Mexican researchers who appeared beside him as he testified before the nation’s Congress also claimed the figures were “authentic,” comprising of just a single skeleton, according to UK’s Daily Star.
While it remains unclear what the other 70% of the so-called aliens’ DNA matched up with, Maussan argued that the DNA analysis confirms the mummies are “definitely not human.”
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“This is the first time extraterrestrial life has been presented in this manner,” he said in a transcript of the hearing, obtained by the Daily Star.
“We have a clear example of non-human specimens unrelated to any known specimens on our planet.”
“These specimens do not belong to our terrestrial evolution,” he continued. “They were not creatures discovered by a UFO crash. Instead, they were found in diatom mines and later transformed into fossilized mummies.”
Maussan went on to argue that “the public has the right to know about non-human technology and beings.
“This reality unites humanity rather than dividing us,” he said. “We are not alone in this universe; we should embrace this truth.”
The alien enthusiast had earlier presented the Mexican Congress’ lower chamber with photographs and X-rays he and Dr. Daniel Mendoza said prove that the specimens do not have lungs or ribs.
“They’re real,” anthropologist Roger Zuniga of San Luis Gonzaga National University in Ica Peru said of the specimens in his testimony last month.
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Controversial journalist and UFO enthusiast José Jaime Maussan argued that the DNA analysis confirms the mummies are “definitely not human.” Anadolu Agency via Getty Images
“There was absolutely no human intervention in the physical and biological formation of these beings,” he added, saying he didn’t know the origin of the beings.”
Zuniga also presented a letter signed by 11 researchers from the university testifying to the same conclusion – though they clarified that they were not implying the bodies were definitely aliens.
Maussan presented similar claims in Peru in 2017 – but a report by the country’s prosecutor’s office found that the alien corpses were actually “recently manufactured dolls, which have been covered with a mixture of paper and synthetic glue to simulate the presence of skin.”
Yet many have expressed skepticism about the veracity of the origins of the mummified figures due to their uncanny resemblance to Steven Spielberg’s “ET,” an alien also with three fingers.
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RE: Some more UFO stuff - A51Watcher2 - 12-05-2023




RE: Some more UFO stuff - 727Sky - 12-05-2023






RE: Some more UFO stuff - A51Watcher2 - 12-12-2023




RE: Some more UFO stuff - Snarl - 12-12-2023

What should I know before watching that video?

I looked at it for 3 minutes and it was a couple of guys who like to talk.

Where can I fast forward to to get to the meat of it?


RE: Some more UFO stuff - A51Watcher2 - 12-12-2023

(12-12-2023, 10:46 AM)Snarl Wrote: What should I know before watching that video?

I looked at it for 3 minutes and it was a couple of guys who like to talk.

Where can I fast forward to to get to the meat of it?

2:00

and 11:40

really are the meat of this one.


RE: Some more UFO stuff - A51Watcher2 - 12-13-2023

Here's where push come to shove -




RE: Some more UFO stuff - 727Sky - 12-13-2023

Quote:In this video, retired Air Force pilot and YouTube creator Chris Lehto analyzes an article by Christopher Sharp about lawyer Daniel Sheehan's claim that 5 Republican politicians are blocking the UFO Disclosure Act. Lehto explores the connections between these politicians and defense contractors like Lockheed Martin and Radiance Technologies that could influence their opposition to the Act. He also analyzes the Citizens United Supreme Court case that gave corporations and other entities First Amendment rights and how that has impacted campaign finance laws. Lehto argues we now have the tools for decentralized media and communication to apply pressure and get to the truth behind what's happening with this important legislation.






RE: Some more UFO stuff - BIAD - 12-13-2023

LMAO LMAO
When your a dying medium, anything will do!



Quote:The US government should tell the public what it knows about UFOs

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Chuck... a suggestion more than a name.

'It doesn’t matter the topic, there always seems to be a group of lawmakers who will stop at nothing to thwart
government transparency – even when it’s a subject that could not be more bipartisan or in an obvious need
for sunlight.

This time, a small cadre of powerful Republicans have reportedly killed a provision in this year’s defense
authorization that would finally bring some transparency to the US government’s knowledge around UFOs
(now also known by the updated parlance of “unidentified aerial phenomena”, or UAPs).

Over the summer, the Senate majority leader, Chuck Schumer, introduced a UFO transparency bill on the
heels of testimony given to Congress b the retired air force officer David Grusch, who made several
shocking claims about the US being in possession of alien spacecraft for decades.

As Schumer described his bill “the measure would create a board just like with the JFK assassination
records to work through the declassification of the many government records on UAPs … This model
has been a terrific success for decades and should be used with UAPs”.

Some took Grusch’s testimony very seriously, others viewed him as a crackpot, still others in between.
Since it would take a lot more words than this column to litigate his myriad extraordinary claims, let’s
forget about him for a moment and focus on what we do know for a fact about the general subject of
unidentified flying objects.

For decades, both military and commercial pilots have logged countless sightings of UFOs while flying
that defy conventional or scientific explanation. The US government has studied the UFO phenomenon
on and off since the 1950s and has kept at least some of what it knows secret.

(Read journalist and author Garrett Graff’s meticulously researched and very fact-based new book on the
subject.) Recently the US government itself has released several videos of these incidents, which has
further fueled public interest and speculation about whether the incidents were extraterrestrial.

Then, it was only nine months ago, shortly after a Chinese spy balloon floated over American airspace,
that UFOs became front page news across the country. After the balloon was taken down, and with the
air force on high alert and its radar systems tweaked to extra sensitivity, a series of UFOs were tracked
and some even shot with US military Sidewinder missiles over both the United States and Canada.

For a few days there was wall-to-wall coverage of these incidents, and the White House was holding
press conferences to specifically address it. Members of the military were telling reporters that the
objects were not balloons like the one China had lost control of, some reported at least one of the
objects “interfered with [pilot’s] sensors” and had no visible propulsion 40,000ft in the air. The military
spent millions of dollars to shoot them down, and closed a huge swath of airspace when they thought
they spotted more. No one had a definitive explanation of what they were.

And then poof! Everyone seemed to forget about it. The government never released video or photos of
the objects it tracked (even though they obviously must have had some footage). They initially claimed
they couldn’t recover any wreckage. When reporters and other concerned citizens attempted to Foia
the evidence they were stonewalled completely, with the Pentagon claiming it was all classified.
By then, the press had moved on and the Biden administration or the Pentagon hasn’t faced an
ounce of scrutiny on the issue from mainstream publications since.

It’s clearly in the public interest to get to the bottom of incidents like these, whether you believe these
objects are of extraterrestrial origin or not. As Schumer himself said, “Unidentified aerial phenomena
has generated intense curiosity from many Americans, and the risk for confusion and misinformation
is high if the government is not willing to be transparent.” It also couldn’t be further from a partisan
issue, as the bill had several Republicans in support of it. So why did this small group of Republicans
– including the House speaker, head of the House intelligence committee and the Senate minority
leader – kill this thing?

One explanation is that these specific congressmen are in on a decades-long cover-up, yet somehow
the long-serving Senate majority leader isn’t. I have a different theory: these congressmen also don’t
necessarily know what is going on, but they are so addicted to government secrecy that they will
reflexively fight for it, even when they have no rational reason. They fear creating a framework for
more transparency, knowing if it’s a success it could possibly spur more legislative action in a
similar vein.

The JFK Records Act, which Schumer referenced as his inspiration, is an aberration in our modern
history; it passed more than 30 years ago and there’s been nothing like it since. On most subjects,
it’s impossible to get the government to quickly declassify documents – even when it’s of vital
public interest. If this new provision would become law, we would then have an updated model
for other areas of the government that Congress could target for declassification if they so choose.

Say, for example, a commission on price gouging in the Pentagon that could expose tens of billions
in fraud, or commissions who could more quickly declassify the various spying powers that are
constantly abused by the NSA and FBI. The House intelligence committee, which seemingly exists
to protect our intelligence agencies from scrutiny, is going to do everything in its power to stop that.

The truth may be out there. But believers and skeptics alike should be able to unite on one thing:
force the government to reveal what it knows and what it doesn’t know. We will all be better off...'
Archived Guardian Opinion Piece:


RE: Some more UFO stuff - 727Sky - 12-15-2023

https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1735083523050975277?ref_twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1735083523050975277%7Ctwgr%5Ec05270c893dafc563a03e9b57b3172bae6e99a74%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fgreatawakening.win%2Fp%2F17rmXXN21w%2Ftucker-episode-51-with-ufo-whist%2Fc%2F

Tucker and Grusch interview which fills in some of the blanks IMO.


RE: Some more UFO stuff - EndtheMadnessNow - 12-18-2023

The motherlode of high strangeness reports is surely Albert Rosales Humanoid Sightings Database.

Center For UFO Studies (CUFOS): Humanoid Catalog (HUMCAT) #54-02

Psychological realism novelist John Fante wrote a letter to the LA Times to report an out of this world UFO sighting/close encounter he claimed to have had near his home in the Palisades on the morning of Feb. 8, 1954.

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1954 HUMANOID REPORTS

Quote:TYPES OF CE (Close Encounter) CLASSIFICATIONS:

    Type A: When an entity or humanoid is seen inside or on top of an object or unidentified aircraft.
    Type B: When an entity or humanoid is seen entering or exiting a UFO.
    Type C: When an entity or humanoid is seen in the immediate vicinity of a UFO.
    Type D: When an entity or humanoid is seen in the same area where UFOs or unknown objects have been reported.
    Type E: When an entity or humanoid is seen alone, without related UFO activity (Example: bedroom visitation).
    Type F: When there is a "psychic" contact between entities or humanoids, but an entity or humanoid is not necessarily seen.
    Type G: When there is direct contact or interaction between a witness or witnesses and a humanoid or entity; either involuntary, as a result of a forced abduction, or as a voluntary contact.
    Type H: When there is a report of an alleged crash or forced landing of a UFO with recovery of its occupants, or when an anomalous entity is captured or killed either by a witness or military personnel.

John Fante (April 8, 1909 – May 8, 1983) was an American novelist, short story writer, and screenwriter. He is best known for his semi-autobiographical novel Ask the Dust (1939) about the life of Arturo Bandini, a struggling writer in Depression-era Los Angeles. It is widely considered the great Los Angeles novel, and is one in a series of four, published between 1938 and 1985, that are now collectively called "The Bandini Quartet". Ask the Dust was adapted into a 2006 film starring Colin Farrell and Salma Hayek. Tom Cruise (with Paula Wagner and Cruise/Wagner Productions) served as one of the film's producers.

The legendary writer is often referred to as "the quintessential L.A. novelist." He has also been cited as a precursor to Beat writers/Beat Generation, a literary subculture movement started by a group of authors whose work explored and influenced American culture and politics in the post-World War II era. The bulk of their work was published and popularized by Silent Generationers in the 1950s, better known as Beatniks.

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Over in recent news, here's a very interesting clip on the David Grusch call.

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https://twitter.com/cyberpcia/status/1735911959529415102


Clip taken from X-SERIES EPISODE 162: Secret NASA Missions in the HotZone: Atlantis TUAOI in the Caribbean!