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RE: Some more UFO stuff - 727Sky - 07-14-2023




RE: Some more UFO stuff - F2d5thCav - 07-14-2023

Discussion of UFOs is filled with misplaced assumptions.

Take the skeptic's favorite question,

Quote:If they can cross the distance between the stars, why do they crash when they get here?

Two assumptions therein.  One is the assumption that they're from other star systems (we don't know that); and two, the assumption that they were in control of their ship when it crashed (we don't know that).

Maybe those ships are out of control when they emerge into our universe.  Maybe the technologies they use are unstable or randomly exhibit unpredictable effects.

We don't know that.  We just don't know, except that there are a lot of reports of high strangeness.

Cheers


RE: Some more UFO stuff - BIAD - 07-15-2023

(07-14-2023, 02:28 PM)F2d5thCav Wrote: If they can cross the distance between the stars, why do they crash when they get here?...

Memphis may be a difficult place to get to?
Surprised

Another example of how the media really perceive the idea of life from other worlds.



Quote:Elvis ‘received telepathic visions from aliens who predicted his stardom’ claims close pal

Elvis Presley's future stardom was shared with him by aliens, according to The King's spiritual advisor
Larry Geller. Elvis Presley was fascinated by spirituality and the paranormal, reading stacks upon stacks
of books on the subjects for hours on end upstairs in his Graceland bedroom.

Always searching for the transcendent beyond the emptiness of his fame and fortune, the star also
believed in UFOs and aliens according to Memphis Mafia members. His cousin Billy Smith, who knew
Elvis before he was famous, said recently on his YouTube channel Elvis Fans Matter: “I think he did
[believe in aliens]. He was really interested in them.

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Elvis showing how he looked during alien probing?

"He talked about them a lot, how big the universe is and the fact that we could be the only ones that
God created. God is not limited.” Meanwhile, Elvis’ spiritual advisor and hairstylist Larry Geller has
previously shared The King’s alleged experiences with UFOs. According to the BBC, the singer shared
telepathic visions he experienced with aliens, when he was just 8 years old.

One of them included a future Elvis in his white jumpsuit, but he didn’t know what this meant at the
time. On another occasion, Geller said he and Elvis saw bright objects in the sky when driving in the
desert that then hovered above Graceland at a later date...'
Express Article:

But wait... there's more.



Quote:All shook up? UFO hunter 'finds' ELVIS on Mars...but doesn't even realise

COULD he have been left "all shook up?" by the discovery of water on Mars?
While Nasa was busy making history with its announcement of water being found on the surface of the
Red Planet, a notorious alien hunter 'found' Elvis Presley performing on Mars, but thought it was just a
bog standard alien.

US alien investigator Scott C Waring, editor of UFO Sightings Daily, who regularly scours photographs
beamed back from Mars by the Nasa Curiosity Rover, was looking for evidence of alien life. He proudly
posted on his website he had discovered an "alien figure watching (the rover) from a hillside"…but failed
to point out it was the spitting image of the King. Mr Waring said excitedly: "Guys, I found this figure in
a Curiosity Rover photo.

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Wasn't red his favourite colour?

"I was at one of the two blogs that NASA has for the rover and caught sight of something standing upright
on two legs. "When I made the photo five times bigger, I found that the figure seemed human-like." Mr
Waring said it was the tenth figure he had found in the last three years, but complained Nasa had ignored
all of them. But, coming from the US of A, Mr Waring should have seen that this was not just another
figure…what he found was a dead ringer for the King himself - Elvis Aaron Presley, complete with quiff,
and flared jumpsuit.

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It's like looking at the same pictures.

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Mr Wainwaring.

It seems Elvis has taken to wearing a black jumpsuit now, but once Mr Waring highlighted the figure to
"bring him out" as he does with all his discoveries, he was back to his good old-fashioned white one.
Conspiracy theorists have long claimed that Elvis did not die in 1977 and went onto lead a secret life
away from the fame amassed during his glittering career.
Nobody ever thought he travelled this far and wide though...'
Another Express Article:


RE: Some more UFO stuff - F2d5thCav - 07-15-2023

BIAD--

Another (kind of surprising) interesting source are reports that describe the original statements of the children of Fatima in 1917.

Before the "lady" appeared, the weather suddenly changed, as in the wind picked up a lot.

Since reading that, I've thought something emerging into our space-time, universe, etc. would of necessity suddenly displace the air that had been in the place where it emerged = sudden wind as the air is displaced.

BTW, not the only anomaly report that mentions a sudden wind before high strangeness gets into gear.

Shy

Cheers


RE: Some more UFO stuff - EndtheMadnessNow - 07-17-2023

"Cultural Effects"?

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My tinfoil bet is that Vallée figured it out and he is sitting on it. It will only be released once he has left Earth per his request...

Quote:Jacques Vallee UFO and paranormal phenomena papers -- under embargo until 2028.

    Background files include relevant topics, general cases, social trends, cults, related phenomena, scientific topics relevant to ufology, assembled by Vallee in support of his research over the years. Also contains field notes and press documents about related topics such as cattle mutilations, and face-to-face meetings of NIDS and BAASS, as well as various research proposals. Correspondence includes letters exchanged with Aime Michel, Dr. Hynek, Dr. Guerin, and many leading researchers and investigators, starting in the late 1950s to the mid 2010s. Analysis files include research studies, often field investigations or document research about specific UFO topics.

This material is restricted by request of the donor for ten years from the date of the gift. The opening date for Series I and II will be Jan. 24, 2028. For Series III: Case Files, the date will be Jan. 1, 2031.


Jacques Vallee oral history interview


RE: Some more UFO stuff - A51Watcher2 - 07-17-2023

Somewhere in the skies - UFO Congressional hearing set

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4IdZ4Hr2dQ&t=3216s


My teams first enhancement of Skinwalker Ranch UFO -




RE: Some more UFO stuff - F2d5thCav - 07-17-2023

ETMN--

Why the drama from Vallée ?

These guys should just speak up ... or get off the pot.

Cheers


RE: Some more UFO stuff - Snarl - 07-17-2023

(07-17-2023, 07:42 AM)A51Watcher2 Wrote: My teams first enhancement of Skinwalker Ranch UFO -


Wink Laughing
Gotta say thanks for that!!


RE: Some more UFO stuff - 727Sky - 07-18-2023

Quote:Senate majority leader Chuck Schumer shocked his colleagues - and the world - by unveiling proposed legislation that would force the release of long-secret UFO files stashed in the bowels of government agencies. The legislation specifically targets defense contractors and private individuals who might be hiding nonhuman technology, crashed saucers, exotic materials of unknown origin… even alien bodies. Schumer gave a nod to his friend and mentor Sen. Harry Reid, whose support for UAP-related investigations is largely responsible for the dramatic events unfolding right now. British journalist Chris Sharp joins Jeremy and George to discuss the potential impact of Schumer's proposal and the importance of the upcoming public UFO hearing to be conducted by house members days from now. Which witnesses might testify?






RE: Some more UFO stuff - F2d5thCav - 07-18-2023

Schum will Pelosi right on it.  Sure

Cheers


RE: Some more UFO stuff - A51Watcher2 - 07-20-2023

(07-18-2023, 11:23 AM)727Sky Wrote:
Quote:Senate majority leader Chuck Schumer shocked his colleagues - and the world - by unveiling proposed legislation that would force the release of long-secret UFO files stashed in the bowels of government agencies. The legislation specifically targets defense contractors and private individuals who might be hiding nonhuman technology, crashed saucers, exotic materials of unknown origin… even alien bodies. Schumer gave a nod to his friend and mentor Sen. Harry Reid, whose support for UAP-related investigations is largely responsible for the dramatic events unfolding right now. British journalist Chris Sharp joins Jeremy and George to discuss the potential impact of Schumer's proposal and the importance of the upcoming public UFO hearing to be conducted by house members days from now. Which witnesses might testify?




Wow! This one is a must see episode on what is to come!!


RE: Some more UFO stuff - EndtheMadnessNow - 07-21-2023

J. Allen Hynek and Air Force Secretary Harold Brown (who later became Defense Secretary under Pres Carter) give statements following the 1966 Congressional UFO hearing and news coverage. Listen from 6:19 to 7:00. Sound familiar?



Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick today...



Quote:"We've interviewed almost 30 individuals who have come in to provide their testimony. And out of all of those, none of it has yet led to any verifiable information that substantiates the claim that the U.S. government has those ships or has a reverse engineering program either in the past or currently," Kirkpatrick said when asked about the allegations.

He downplayed the possible existence of a secret program that he is not privy to, saying, "Nothing has been denied us."

"A number of these [whistleblowers] believe and have stated -- and we believe them now -- that they have seen something. And we are investigating," he said.


Extraterrestrial 'technical supremacy' is a top concern, Pentagon UFO investigator says (July 20, 2023)

John Warner IV UFO File Deep Events & Black Projects!



Regarding deep space comms mentioned from Warner on spooky intel projects in Antarctica see this Eric J Hecker's channel: DecipheringMyExperience


RE: Some more UFO stuff - 727Sky - 07-22-2023

Quote:Former Sr. Intelligence official and new whistleblower David Charles Grusch, 36, released Monday, June 5, 2023, classified information about “deeply covert programs that possess retrieved intact and partially intact craft of unknown non-human origin.” Why wasn’t Congress in this major intell loop and why wasn’t this front page NYT news? Speakers (L to R): 1) Sarah Sheehan; 2) Danny Sheehan, Atty. for UAP Investigator Luis Elizondo; 3) Linda Moulton Howe, Reporter and Editor, Earthfiles YouTube Channel; 4) Richard Dolan, UFO historian and author; 5) Steve Bassett, Founder, Paradigm Research Group for UFO disclosure; 6) Alan Steinfeld, Producer, New Realities podcast; 7 and 8) J. J. and Desiree Hurtak, Ph.D.s, authors and founders of Academy For Future Science.








RE: Some more UFO stuff - Infolurker - 07-22-2023

(07-22-2023, 12:51 PM)727Sky Wrote:
Quote:Former Sr. Intelligence official and new whistleblower David Charles Grusch, 36, released Monday, June 5, 2023, classified information about “deeply covert programs that possess retrieved intact and partially intact craft of unknown non-human origin.” Why wasn’t Congress in this major intell loop and why wasn’t this front page NYT news? Speakers (L to R): 1) Sarah Sheehan; 2) Danny Sheehan, Atty. for UAP Investigator Luis Elizondo; 3) Linda Moulton Howe, Reporter and Editor, Earthfiles YouTube Channel; 4) Richard Dolan, UFO historian and author; 5) Steve Bassett, Founder, Paradigm Research Group for UFO disclosure; 6) Alan Steinfeld, Producer, New Realities podcast; 7 and 8) J. J. and Desiree Hurtak, Ph.D.s, authors and founders of Academy For Future Science.






yeah, I am the skeptic about all this. Controlled release of "information" by DoD cleared "whistleblowers".

Sure.... 

When do our fake aliens show up to tell us we need a one world government and a chip / mark in our hand or forehead?


RE: Some more UFO stuff - EndtheMadnessNow - 07-23-2023

Retro UFO docu that still ranks near the top.




Quote:1974 documentary film that examines several prominent UFO sightings from the post-war to contemporary era. It was re-released in 1976 and 1979 under the title UFOs: It Has Begun to coincide with renewed interest in the subject due to the release of Steven Spielberg's Close Encounters of the Third Kind. It is based on the book UFOs: Past, Present, and Future by Robert Emenegger.

The film is narrated by Rod Serling, Burgess Meredith, and José Ferrer. Serling and Meredith had previously worked together on The Twilight Zone. The 1979 re-release features commentary by noted UFOlogist and astronomer Dr. Jacques Vallée. The film uses dramatizations, interviews with government officials and scientists, and selected footage to provide context for UFO sightings, both ancient and contemporary.

This film opens with:

"What you are witnessing is based on fact. Some will find it fascinating, some will find it frightening: but it is all true."
UFOs: It Has Begun IMDB (1979)


RE: Some more UFO stuff - EndtheMadnessNow - 07-24-2023

Area 51 was mentioned in the papers at least as early as 1967.

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San Bernardino Sun (page 22)

Quote:July 23, 1947 – A group of survey workers working northeast of Pitanga,
Parana State, Brazil ran away when they heard a hissing noise and
saw a disc-shaped object land only 50 meters away from them. Jose C.
Higgins saw two figures through a window inside the craft. Later three
beings in shiny clothes and translucent suits, with oversized baldheads,
huge round eyes, no eyelashes or eyebrows, and a metal box on their back,
emerged from the craft. They were over two meters (6.6 feet) tall. They
drew a sketch of the solar system and pointed to Uranus as if to suggest
that was their point of origin. (Sources: Flying Saucer Review,
November-December 1961; Jacques Vallee, Passport to Magonia: A Century
of Landings, p. 191; Jader U. Pereira, Les Extra-Terrestres,
citing O Cruzeiro, November 13, 1954).

Encounters with Aliens on this Day

Today in Lost UFO History...


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Official UFO July 1977


Jim Moseley presents The LOST CREEK West Virginia SAUCER:



Quote:
The Lost Creek Saucer: Confessions of a Grave-Robbing Ufologist


On July 3, 1966, John Sheets, a house painter, accompanied his employer who had taken movies of a Little League game in Weston. They left Route 19 near Lost Creek for a short cut to Clarksburg on their way home. Sheets, looking out the car window for deer that abounded in the wild rural area, was puzzled and startled when he spotted a dish-shaped flying object surmounted by a dome with portholes, following them. He shouted for the driver to stop as the object disappeared behind a hill. His employer, remembering he had unexposed footage left in his 16mm Bolex movie camera, reached for it on the back seat. As he did so the object returned and swooped down toward them, then retreated and repeated the maneuver. Despite his excitement and fright, the amateur photographer managed to shoot several feet of film, with many sharp frames, some of which when enlarged display a recognizable antenna, and ball-like “landing gear,” similar to many still photographs taken by other witnesses.



RE: Some more UFO stuff - 727Sky - 07-24-2023

Up coming hearing



RE: Some more UFO stuff - 727Sky - 07-25-2023


Cover up after cover up by the Airforce



RE: Some more UFO stuff - EndtheMadnessNow - 07-25-2023

Christopher Mellon on NewsNation July 25, 2023:
"I've been told that is the case by several defense Department officials that it's not from this Earth or they don't know from where it's from on this Earth. I've been told that we have recovered technology that did not originate on this Earth by officials in the Department of Defense and by former intelligence officials."



And here's an interview snip of what Mellon said in May 2016:

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Source: Is There a UFO Cover-up? A Government Insider Speaks Out


UFO promoter Ross Coulthart recently brought up Rudolph Stone as someone who has answers to the UFO mystery. He comes up in Lue's emails from FOIA in regards to this UFO conference Zondo did with Roberto Pinotti (promoter of the 1933 Italy UFO crash hoax).

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Bio link

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"This responds to your Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request for all emails (including all attachments) sent to/from (bcc’d or cc’d) eight specified DoD OIG officials which contain the keyword “Elizondo”, from October 1, 2017, through the date of processing your request."


From a FOIA PDF (from the BlackVault guy)

Lue was also in this episode titled "The Revelation" of "Unidentified: Inside America's UFO Investigation" TV series with Pinotti.


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ABC news

Ha, I seriously doubt the "official US Gov" has it or anything. It (whatever it may be) is hidden away in the MIC aerospace bunkers. And thus the rationale for the NDAA...

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Amendment to NDAA 2024

Which politicians will get nothing.


June 2010–January 2012, Deputy Chief of Strategic Engagement, Air Force/A8XS, the Pentagon, Arlington, Va.
2011 Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) Service Chiefs' Fellow, Arlington, Va.
2014–2015, Commander, 412th Operations Support Squadron, @EdwardsAFB
2015–2016, Secretary of Defense Corporate Fellow, @SpaceX
2016–2019, Commander, 645th Aeronautical Systems Group, @WrightPattAFB
2019–2022, Commander, Arnold Engineering Development Complex, Arnold AFB (Tenn.)
June 2022, Commander, 96th Test Wing, Eglin AFB (@TeamEglin)

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Brig. Gen. Jeffrey T. Geraghty

It's all about the technology.


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Office of the Secretary of Defense (Policy) Defense Technology Innovation Program

The premise is (imho), don't under estimate super intelligent humans in the private aerospace business.

Congressional Hearing About UFOs Kicks Off This Week: “We're Done With The Cover-Up" - They’re going to hold their press conference for disclosure and the top secret alien tech will be CBDCs.


RE: Some more UFO stuff - EndtheMadnessNow - 07-26-2023

I don't share his views on everything, but think much of what he has to say is over target.

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