Quote:'Why hasn't Nicola Bulley been found in the river and why was her dog's harness removed?
Fifteen vital questions about mother-of-two's disappearance that are leaving police and family baffled

1. Why hasn’t Ms Bulley been found in the river?

The River Wyre empties into the Irish Sea at Fleetwood, 13 miles downstream. It is tidal for several miles,
until the point where a weir is situated, close to where Ms Bulley disappeared. The water is slow-flowing,
so if Ms Bulley fell into the river, it is difficult to understand why she has not been found – or how she could
have got into trouble in the first place.

2. Could she swim?

Ms Bulley is described as a capable swimmer. She is familiar with the route, which she walks most mornings,
and was dressed appropriately for the cold.

3. Why was the dog’s harness removed?

A disturbing puzzle is why Willow’s harness was found on the ground. If Ms Bulley had wanted to let the dog
run free, she could have simply unclipped the lead. But for some reason, Willow’s harness had been removed.

4. Had the dog been in the water, and maybe Ms Bulley went in after her?

Willow appeared distressed but ‘bone dry’, according to the woman who found her. There was no sign of her
having gone in the river.

5. Why would she leave her phone on the bench?

Ms Bulley’s phone was found on the bench, still connected to a conference call. So whatever happened, there
was no time to end the call or to alert others on the call. But it is possible Ms Bulley deliberately chose not to
terminate the call because she believed she would be returning to it once she had dealt with whatever needed
her immediate attention. Detectives have examined the phone, but so far there is nothing to indicate anyone
but Ms Bulley placed it on the bench.

6. Why was she on mute with no video for her business meeting?

The conference call was a team meeting with colleagues from her firm Exclusively Mortgages.
It started at 9.01am and Ms Bulley dialled in from her phone. Ben Pociecha, the firm’s director, said: ‘It seems
as if she was muted and didn’t have her camera on. She was listening in while walking her dog. The police are
investigating the call.’

It was not unusual for Ms Bulley to attend meetings in this manner. The company is based in Keighley, West
Yorkshire, a 90-minute drive, and there was no need for Ms Bulley to attend in person or even take part beyond
listening.

7. Where was her partner while she was out walking their dog?

Paul Ansell, her partner of 12 years, works as an engineer and the couple often took it in turns to perform the school
run and dog-walking duties. The 44-year-old is believed to have been at the family home when the call came through
telling him Ms Bulley’s phone and dog had been found near the river.

8. Did anyone see her dropping off the children?

The car park next to the school is well used, although there are apparently no CCTV cameras. It was Ms Bulley’s
usual practice to drop off her daughters at 8.30am and then walk Willow to the river, leaving the car near the school.
They would have been visible to motorists as they walked along the pavement of the busy A-road, Blackpool Lane,
for about 200 yards, past the village church, before crossing the bridge over the river and turning on to the towpath.

9. Is the towpath isolated?

The towpath starts in the open before entering a copse at a bend in the river. At least four people appear to have seen
Ms Bulley along the path between 8.43am and 9.10am.

10. Why are there no physical signs along the riverbank?

Although locals have warned about the ‘slippery riverbank’, which is muddy and steep in places, Ms Bulley’s family
have questioned why there are no signs of anyone sliding into the river or desperately scrabbling to get out. But
Superintendent Sally Riley, from Lancashire Police, said ‘parts of the riverbank are treacherous’.

11. Could she have been kidnapped?

Ms Bulley’s father Ernest, 73, has wondered if she was snatched. He said: ‘There was no sign of a slip or falling in,
so our thought was, “Has somebody got her?”. He said he had asked a police sergeant, who had all but dismissed
the theory. But he said: ‘How can you know that? It’s such an isolated area, the only way that has happened is if it
was someone who knew her.’ Lancashire Constabulary have said they do not believe there was any third-party
involvement in her disappearance but are keeping an ‘open mind’.

12. Could she have staged a disappearance?

On the contrary, Ms Bulley was said to have been ‘very upbeat’ and loving her life and her job as a mortgage broker,
through which she had just won a new client. Only the night before, when she saw her parents, ‘her mind was great’,
her father said.

Her mother, Dot, 72, said Ms Bulley had recently bought tickets to watch her children in choir and gymnastics shows,
and had excitedly been planning a spa day treat with her younger sister Louise.

13. What about the ‘abandoned’ house?

An ‘abandoned house’ opposite the river bank where she disappeared was an intriguing early line of inquiry. But the
manor house turned out not to be abandoned, and the owner ‘had a quick look around and she wasn’t there’, searcher
Kev Camplin said.

14. Why is the search taking so long?

Police divers are performing an ‘arc search’, combing the riverbed by moving in a side-to-side motion from bank to bank
– described as a ‘thorough but long’ process. They have also deployed underwater drones, but visibility in the muddy
waters is poor.

15. What do the family think happened?

Ms Bulley’s sister, Louise Cunningham, said yesterday: ‘Somebody must know something.
People don’t just vanish into thin air. There has got to be somebody who knows something and all we are asking is,
no matter how small or big, if there is anything you remember that doesn’t seem right, then please reach out to the
police. Get in touch and get my sister back.’

(02-07-2023, 02:17 AM)Ninurta Wrote: I would like to take this opportunity to publicly state that I was nowhere near the UK on the date in question.

If she fell into the river, and assuming that the river bed is fairly smooth with no "snags" like dead trees in it to snag a body and hold it under, then nature will take it's course. A dead body swells due to gasses generated by decomposition, and eventually bobs to the surface like a cork due to those gasses. If she's in the river, it should not take long to determine that.

What I want to know at this point is what did the analysis of her Fitbit account show?

Quote:8. Did anyone see her dropping off the children?

The car park next to the school is well used, although there are apparently no CCTV cameras. It was Ms Bulley’s
usual practice to drop off her daughters at 8.30am and then walk Willow to the river, leaving the car near the school.
They would have been visible to motorists as they walked along the pavement of the busy A-road, Blackpool Lane,
for about 200 yards, past the village church, before crossing the bridge over the river and turning on to the towpath.

9. Is the towpath isolated?

The towpath starts in the open before entering a copse at a bend in the river. At least four people appear to have seen
Ms Bulley along the path between 8.43am and 9.10am.

(02-10-2023, 12:21 AM)ABNARTY Wrote: Thanks for the sat picture. It helps me put it into perspective. (My rural American idea of isolated trail and the English version of an isolated trail are two different things I guess.)

Sounds like a missing 411 to me for sure.

My first guess would be the river. But there was no indication of a slide anywhere, no body in the water, and a weir downstream which would catch something. Maybe she is snagged deep, and the divers just missed her?

Second guess is abduction. But there was the dog, it was daylight, she was on the phone during the time she would have been grabbed, and it seemed like people/dwellings were near.  not impossible but those circumstances make it way more difficult to grab somebody.

If she was planning on leaving it all behind, she picked a bad way to do it. Now the whole place is looking for her. Her picture is online worldwide.

Maybe she was grabbed by someone in a boat?  From the Google map, that looks like the nearest quick means of get-away.  A quick trip to that concrete drainage works a few hundred meters to the north east. Then a waiting car on the dirt trail and then to the paved road.   

Where is Peggy Powler when we need her?

Quote:Nicola Bulley's reputation 'destroyed' by police, says ex-detective
'Lancashire Police released a statement saying Ms Bulley had suffered "significant issues" with alcohol brought
on by her "struggles with the menopause" after initially refusing to confirm why she was classed as high risk and
vulnerable...'

Quote:Police are slammed for leaving Nicola Bulley's family in a 'terrible place' with 'deeply troubling'
handling of case by revealing her battle with alcohol issues while struggling with menopause
that saw officers visit her home 17 days before she vanished

Quote:Nicola Bulley dive specialist Peter Faulding explains how search would have changed had
he known about personal issues

'Peter Faulding has changed his views on what could have happened to Nicola since new information was
shared by police yesterday...'

(02-17-2023, 05:17 PM)ABNARTY Wrote: OK...

So they claim her going through menopause may be a factor in the disappearance. I do not live in England but do women going through menopause frequently disappear over there? A 'middle aged women's graveyard' type of thing where they all go to expire? 

Quote:They claim she drank. Very odd for England if I remember correctly  . People drinking that is.
Again I ask the same line of question; is there a large population of missing people who enjoy beer?
(Or hard cider as was my favorite at the time)

Quote:I am not Jacques Cousteau but that looked like a rather quiet looking creek. No raging torrent's carrying
unsuspecting menopausal beer lovers to their doom. It should be pretty easy to determine if there is a
body in there or not. Why would the local police want to die on that untenable hill?

Quote:High Risk? A middle aged woman walking her dog after dropping off the kids?
That's classified as high risk in Lancashire? Did they have frequent run-ins with her previously?
Was she running drugs and shooting up the streets? Trafficking minors?
Was she a member of the mob? A hit-woman? Seems a little over board if you ask me.

Quote:Of course I am not there. I never met the woman. I never met the police in Lancashire.
I have never been to the park in question. Never swam in the river. But the story sounds flimsy.

Quote:TRAGIC FIND
Police searching for missing Nicola Bulley, 45, find body less than a mile from
where mum-of-two vanished 23 days ago

'Police searching for missing mum Nicola Bulley have found a body less than a mile
from where she vanished 23 days ago. Nicola, 45, was last seen in St Michael's on
Wyre, Lancashire, at around 9.15am on January 27.



Police searching for Nicola today confirmed a body had been found less than a mile
from where she was last seen. hey said no formal identification has been carried out
so are unable to say whether the remains belong to the mum-of-two.

The force said in a statement: "We were called today at 11:36am to reports of a body
in the River Wyre, close to Rawcliffe Road. "An underwater search team and specialist
officers have subsequently attended the scene, entered the water and have sadly
recovered a body. "No formal identification has yet been carried out, so we are unable
to say whether this is Nicola Bulley at this time...'

(02-19-2023, 09:07 PM)ABNARTY Wrote: OK...

So the police cannot say it's her but how many people have gone missing there recently? 
I thought everyone and their brother-in-law had searched the river from top to bottom? 

Quote:Will the media now apply the same level of hype to every missing persons case in the UK?
Or just well-to-do white women? Reminds me of that case from the Bahamas a few years back.
Wonder what the link is?

Quote:(...adjusts tin foil hat...)

How 'bout this: She was abducted and murdered in some sinister fashion.
As everyone searched the river, baddies bided their time. After a while, when the media storm
was big enough, they slipped the body into the river conveniently right where all the searches
had taken place.
The body is now "found" in the river by a traumatized by-stander and the entire UK is caught up
in finger pointing. The baddies make their escape.

(02-20-2023, 09:56 AM)BIAD Wrote: "...On Sunday, Lancashire Police said they "sadly recovered a body" from the water after
being called to the River Wyre..." -BBC
"...It was spotted by dog walkers a mile from where Nicola was last seen..." -The Sun


                                                                            Ms Nicola Bulley & Partner Paul Ansell.  Peter Faulding.

The foliage along the riverbank in the Google images is grass, there is no 'reed-bed'. It may possibly
come out later that the body became 'snagged' in the bush shown in the third image.

(02-20-2023, 02:45 PM)Ninurta Wrote: I'm not familiar with the geography of the River Wyre. Am I correct to assume that the river flows from right towards left in the maps above? From what I assume is east towards the west? If so, once the body became a "floater", it's natural to assume that it caught at the north bank or upper bank in the image, in the river bend shown. The difference in locations specified is only about 200 feet, so not a real biggie for a "journalist" who can't be assed to get off their behinds and go take a look at the find site - we're lucky they somehow managed to find the river on an image!

Quote:...It's 3-weeks-later sudden appearance could be explained if the body had initially sunk to the bottom of the river, and only floated back to the surface after enough decomposition gasses had built up in it to cause it to become a "floater". Of more interest is how searches could scour a river bed for any length of time and miss a body lying in it, floater or not.

Less explainable is the statement that it was found snagged in a reed bed where no reed bed exists.

Quote:...Also less explainable is a body being found in a river where no sign of a slip into the river was found. Slippery banks where one may accidentally slide into a river always leave a telltale "slide" mark into the river at the point of entry, if one knows what to look for, and I must assume "experts" do know what to look for.

Now, if that river flows from left to right in the images, or west to east, then none of it makes any sense. Bodies do not float upriver of their own accord, and they do not snag in river bends BEFORE they get into the curve.

Quote:Nicola Bulley cops say they need more time to identify body pulled from river
-meaning agonising wait for answers continues for missing mother's family

'A body was discovered in the reeds of the Wyre by two walkers yesterday - less than a mile from where
she disappeared three weeks ago. The woman has not yet been formally identified.
The discovery raises yet more questions about the quality of Lancashire Police's investigation...'

(02-20-2023, 03:09 PM)ABNARTY Wrote: Thanks for the update BIAD. My thoughts...

- That is a very shallow, narrow river. There is no way teams of divers and sonar equipment scanning that place for days missed anything, much less a body. I could be wrong. But just people walking along the edge poking the water with poles would cover 100% of the river and find stuff. 

- Was there any recent flooding? Or just normal river level? 

- There are no reeds. Shoot, there's just some grass and maybe that one little bush. And this time of year? All the vegetation would be at it's least bushiness of the year. 

- There are at least a dozen more acute curves in the river between the spot where she was last seen and where her body was found. If she was going to get hung up...

- If that is where the body was found, it is right next to the road. A few feet away. I stick by my tin foil hat theory. Someone with a body in the car could easily drive by, stop, chuck the body in the water, and be gone in seconds. With no one around to see.

Quote:GRIM FIND
‘Psychic’ Jason Rothwell claims he found body during Nicola Bulley search before helping cops to recover
tragic find



Jason Rothwell, 33, claims he helped police recover the remains from the river Wyre less than a mile away from where
the missing mum was last seen. He was pictured on Sunday pointing towards the reeds where he made the discovery,
Mail Online reports.


Jason Rothwell... He Knows What You're Thinking.

The spiritual medium said: “As has obviously become apparent, yes it is myself in the images in the media currently
circulating relating to the case of Nicola Bulley and yes yesterday morning it was myself and a friend who reported and
assisted the police in the recovery of a body from the river Wyre.

“Such as it is it would be inappropriate of me to discuss in any further detail anything we may know about that body at
this time, considering a formal identification of that body has yet to be confirmed. “I would also like to just say a huge
thank you to Lancashire police for their help, support and the open mindedness with which they dealt with us, following
our call, spiritualists or mediums are obviously not something the police come across every day and I appreciate the
respect given to us both.

“It is also important to mention, I was not asked by the police or Nicola’s family to become involved in this case, but
having seen the wild speculation and hurtful commentary that has been ongoing, and having previously assisted in
the recovery of Michael Brooks, I decided to use what ever “gift” it is we mediums possess to try and locate Nicola Bulley.

"I Would however stress again, I can not confirm that body we traced yesterday is that off the lady in question.
“My thoughts and prayers are with her family, friend and loved ones at this time and I do hope, that if it is indeed Nicola,
they can find some peace with this. "If it is not, I would send my prayers to the family off whomsoever it may be...'

Quote:'...“I would add as a final note, I will not be giving any further information or commentary at this time regarding the
work involved in finding this person nor is it my place to engage in any discussion on how that body came to
originally be in the water.”

The 45-year-old disappeared in St Michael's on Wyre, Lancashire, at around 9.15am on January 27.
And the body was found at around 11am yesterday, near Rawcliffe Road.
It was said to have been on the edge of the river, in undergrowth, when first seen by members of the public.
Police said yesterday the death was being treated as "unexplained"...'

(02-21-2023, 02:38 PM)BIAD Wrote: As the legacy media flail around in attempts to blame the public, the police and any rival news-outlets for the dark
cloud over the tragic death of Nicola Bulley, it was only a matter of time before the crazies swoop in to have their
time in the limelight.

Don't get me wrong, if this article is true, I admire the person's vigilance for discovering the body. But if it comes
to light via the dying Press that he used his psychic powers to locate the place in the river, the young man will
take it as free advertising and the media will be laughing behind his back at the expense of its readers.
It seems we're using the word 'circus' far-too frequently, these days.

Quote:GRIM FIND
‘Psychic’ Jason Rothwell claims he found body during Nicola Bulley search before helping cops to recover
tragic find



...


Jason Rothwell... He Knows What You're Thinking.

The spiritual medium said: “As has obviously become apparent, yes it is myself in the images in the media currently circulating relating to the case of Nicola Bulley and yes yesterday morning it was myself and a friend who reported and assisted the police in the recovery of a body from the river Wyre.

“Such as it is it would be inappropriate of me to discuss in any further detail anything we may know about that body at this time, considering a formal identification of that body has yet to be confirmed. “I would also like to just say a huge thank you to Lancashire police for their help, support and the open mindedness with which they dealt with us, following our call, spiritualists or mediums are obviously not something the police come across every day and I appreciate the respect given to us both.

“It is also important to mention, I was not asked by the police or Nicola’s family to become involved in this case, but having seen the wild speculation and hurtful commentary that has been ongoing, and having previously assisted in the recovery of Michael Brooks, I decided to use what ever “gift” it is we mediums possess to try and locate Nicola Bulley.

...

You'd think his contacts from beyond would tell him who the body belongs to, wouldn't you?

Quote:'...“I would add as a final note, I will not be giving any further information or commentary at this time regarding the work involved in finding this person nor is it my place to engage in any discussion on how that body came to originally be in the water.”

...

The Sun:

(02-22-2023, 12:37 AM)Ninurta Wrote: DINGDINGDING! I think we have a suspect...

He thanks THE POLICE for helping HIM?
He knows where the body is, a body that has eluded professional searchers for 3 weeks?
He insinuates that he knows much more about "the case" than he is going to tell?

I really don't believe the fay folk told him where to find the body, or what happened to it to get it there, for his own aggrandizement. Yet here he is, blowing his own trumpet and getting loads of free publicity. It's almost as if it were engineered to put him in the limelight... a limelight he is taking full advantage of.

If I were Lancashire Police, I'd be looking into his whereabouts at the time of the disappearance, and building a profile on the "friends" he hangs out with for other potential suspects.

Quote:'Psychic' who found Nicola Bulley's body says he also found remains of missing teenager

Jason Dean Rothwell and a friend were the members of the public who found the body on Sunday,
which was later confirmed to belong to Nicola Bulley

The self-proclaimed medium who found Nicola Bulley 's body has claimed he helped find a missing teen.
Jason Dean Rothwell and a friend were the members of the public who found the body on Sunday, which
was later confirmed to belong to the mortgage adviser. The body was seen just a mile from where her
phone was found on a bench in the close-knit village of St Michael's in Wyre, Lancashire.

Jason said he wasn't asked by the police or Nicola's family to help but that it was his "gift" that compelled
him to try and help. In a statement, he also added that he had previously helped with the recovery of Michael
Brooks - a 19-year-old who was found in a river in Lancashire after a three-week search in February 2018.


The vicinity of the similar deaths and Michael Brooks. (Red -The Brooks incident. Yellow -The Bulley incident)

The Preston College student was last seen on January 13, 2018, by a friend after they went into a local park
on hallucinogenic drugs to look at the stars, the inquest heard. Michael's body was found on February 6 after
a massive search was launched by family, friends and authorities.

In a statement, his mum Joanne described Michael as "happy-go-lucky" and someone who "often stood out
from the crowd". The statement, which was published in the blogpreston.co.uk, read: "I know nothing that
happens today (at the inquest) will change the outcome"...'


'...'...A man and a woman had said they heard splashing but when they looked in the water they couldn't
see anything, it was reported. Bizarrely, a man, who was referred to as 'Y' in court, confessed to killing
him but investigations revealed he was in a care home at the time Michael died...'

Quote:'...The family of a teenager who disappeared in Avenham Park may never know how he ended up in the River
Ribble. Michael Brooks’ family have urged anyone with any information about the night he disappeared to contact
police after a coroner recorded an open verdict into his death.

Preston College student Michael, 19, was found in the river in Penwortham, after a three week search by mountain
rescue, fire and rescue services and friends and family in February 2018.

The last man to see him alive, Connor Rishton, told an inquest how Michael ‘disappeared into the night’ after
the pair went to watch stars in Avenham Park, high on hallucinogenic drugs at around 1.20am on January 13.
A man and woman who were drinking whisky on the banks of the river said they head splashing and saw a
silhouette in the water at around 1.30pm.

But when they went to investigate, using the torches on their mobile phones, they could not see anyone,
The woman said: “I didn’t understand how someone could just vanish into thin air.”

Another witness to the inquest gave statements claiming Michael was thrown from the Old Tram Bridge by two
unnamed men at knifepoint, to settle an outstanding drugs debt.

In September 2018 she told police a man – referred to in court only as ‘Y’ – had confessed to killing Michael, but
investigations revealed records showing he was staying at a care home in East Lancashire on the night Michael
disappeared. Area Coroner James Newman recorded an open verdict, stating: “There are two very polar opposite
accounts of how Michael has gone into the river...'

Quote:'...'An expert diver involved with the search for missing mum Nicola Bulley says he is "baffled" by the
location of where her body was found. Yesterday, Lancashire Police confirmed a body found in the
river in St Michael's near where Nicola went missing on January 27 belonged to the mortgage adviser.


Peter Faulding.

Forensic dive expert Peter Faulding had previously said that Nicola was not in the River Wyre after he
searched for her there. He said: "If Nicola was in that river, I would have found her. She’s not there."
Mr Faulding was drafted in 10 days after the mortgage adviser's disappearance and spent three days
searching the River Wyre...'

'...Mr Faulding, CEO of Search Group International (SGI), told Express.co.uk: "This is a baffling case.
The most baffling aspect is at the bottom of the bank there was only two feet of water on the day
Nicola went missing. "She would have landed on rocks if she had slipped in. The current was not
heavy enough to take her over the weir. A lot of people agree on that."...'

Quote:'Student Roger Jones was thrown into a fast-flowing brook that fed into the River Wyre in St Michael's on
Wyre, Lancashire, back in 1978 following a motorcycle crash. Roger's brother Don Jones, who now lives in Caton,
Lancashire, said: "We feel so much for Nicola's family and friends. We know just what they must be going through”

Roger was a pupil at the former Fulwood High School, where he was working to go to Myerscough College to study
agriculture and follow his dream of becoming a farmer. The 16-year-old had been returning home one night as a
passenger on a friend's motorbike when they crashed into a car on a narrow bridge in Woodplumpton, near Preston.

The bike rider was badly injured and unconscious when emergency services arrived, and was unable to tell them he
had a passenger. It was 3am before police were alerted that someone was missing and returned to the bridge.
While a massive police search was launched, that included dog patrols, divers, and mounted police , Roger’s body
was not discovered until two months later, when it washed up on a sandbank at low tide seven miles from St Michael's,
the town where Nicola was last seen.

Don, a journalist for Granada TV, said that his family were “exhausted” by the time his younger brother’s body was
found, adding: “It was just a case of waiting for what seemed inevitable”...'