(06-11-2023, 07:00 PM)Infolurker Wrote:(06-11-2023, 06:55 PM)quintessentone Wrote: The more I listen to and try to understand what the young people and their parents face, the more I believe they need to navigate their lives as they see fit - with health support of course.
Listen to this anti-woke father speak about his child's suffering.
As many of us "continuously" say..... Adults can do as they please. That person transitioning is not 4.
Here's the problem. Just like the State, neither you nor I are that child, that child's parents, or their doctors. We, by rights, have NO right to interfere in decisions made by any of those folks on their own behalf. It's not our call to make, none of our damned business. No more than it is the State's decision, in either direction.
Anything else is just busybody interference in someone else's affairs. It doesn't matter if that interference comes from the Left, or the Right, it's STILL interference all the same. One is no different from the other as far as interference in personal affairs goes. I don't tell other folks how to run their own houses, and they damned well won't tell me how to run mine, and that is the long and the short of the entire contrived argument.
It's much like the argument several years ago regarding gay marriage. Once you ask the State to step in - as licensing of marriages, asking State permission to get married - you open the door for the State to make a mess of things. In the matter of gay marriage, the State, in order to be a proper state, must extend all State sponsored privileges equally to ALL citizens. There are no "under-citizens" or "second class citizens" in a proper State. So if the State is allowed to give permission for a thing, or withhold permission for a thing, then those permissions have to be equally distributed to all of the citizens, regardless of their personal situation.
So, if you don't want the state poking around and interfering in YOUR personal life, then don't ask them to do that to anyone else... because that WILL, eventually, splash back on you, too.
Just as no one else has a right to force us to feed their fantasies by forcing us to play their silly little pronoun games, WE do not have the right to prevent them from having their fantasies, however silly we may think they are. 90% of the world's social ills, maybe more, could be cured in one fell swoop by simply ending the busybody game that everyone is playing to try to force OTHER folks around to their own way of thinking. No one has a right to end someone else's rights - their right to swing their fist ends where the other's nose begins, that sort of thing.
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