Quote:Ian RutheIaIan Rutherford Plimer  is an Australian geologist, professor emeritus of earth sciences at the University of Melbourne, professor of mining geology at the University of Adelaide, and the director of multiple mineral exploration and mining companies.

Quote:He has published 130 scientific papers, six books and edited the Encyclopaedia of Geology.  Sounds pretty learned/credible, don't you think?
 These are his extensive credentials:
 
Born
12 February 1946
Residence
Australia
Nationality
Australian
Fields
Earth Science, Geology,
Mining Engineering
Institutions
University of New England,
University of Newcastle,
University of Melbourne,
University of Adelaide
Alma mater
University of New South Wales,
Macquarie University
Thesis
The pipe deposits of tungsten- Molybdenum-bismuth in eastern Australia  (1976)
Notable awards
Eureka Prize (1995, 2002),
Centenary Medal(2003),
Clarke Medal (2004)
 
Where Does the Carbon Dioxide Really Come From?
 Professor Ian Plimer's book in a brief summary:
 PLIMER : "Okay, here's the bombshell. The volcanic eruption in Iceland.  Since its first spewing of volcanic ash, it has, in just FOUR DAYS, NEGATED EVERY SINGLE EFFORT you have made in the past five years to control CO2 emissions on our planet - all of you.
 Of course, you know about this evil carbon dioxide that we are trying to suppress - it's that vital chemical  compound that every plant requires to live and grow and to synthesize into oxygen for us humans and all animal life.
 I know....it's very disheartening to realize that all of the carbon emission savings you have accomplished while suffering the inconvenience and expense of driving Prius hybrids, buying fabric grocery bags, sitting up till midnight to finish your kids "The Green Revolution" science project, throwing out all of your non-green cleaning supplies, using only two squares of toilet paper, putting a brick in your toilet tank reservoir, selling your SUV and speedboat, vacationing at home instead of abroad, nearly getting hit every day on your bicycle, replacing all of your 50 cent light bulbs with $10.00 light bulbs.....well, all of those things you have done all gone down the tubes in just four days!
 The volcanic ash emitted into the Earth's atmosphere in just four days - yes, FOUR DAYS - by that volcano in Iceland has totally erased every single effort you have made to reduce the evil beast, carbon. And there are around 200 active volcanoes on the planet spewing out this crud at any one time - EVERY DAY.
 I don't really want to rain on your parade too much,  but I should mention that when the volcano Mt Pinatubo erupted in the Philippines in 1991, it spewed out more greenhouse gases into the atmosphere than the entire human race had emitted in all its years on earth.
 Yes, Mt Pinatubo was active for over One year - think about it
 Of course, I shouldn't spoil this 'touchy-feely tree-hugging' moment and mention the effect of natural solar and cosmic activity, and the well-recognized 800-year global heating and cooling cycle, which keeps happening despite our completely insignificant affect sclimate change.
 And I do wish I had a silver lining to this volcanic ash cloud, but the fact of the matter is that the wildfire season across the western USA and Australia this year alone will negate your efforts to reduce carbon in our world for the next two to three years. And it happens every year.
 Hey, isn't it interesting how they don't mention 'Global Warming' anymore, but just 'Climate Change.
 It's because the planet has COOLED by 0.7 degrees in the past century and these global warming advocates got caught with their pants down.
 And, just keep in mind that you might yet have an Emissions Trading Scheme - that whopping new tax - imposed on you by your government, that will achieve absolutely nothing except make you poorer.
 It won't stop any volcanoes from erupting, that's for sure.

Make carbon dioxide great again

(05-28-2023, 05:55 AM)727Sky Wrote:

Quote:Ian RutheIaIan Rutherford Plimer  is an Australian geologist, professor emeritus of earth sciences at the University of Melbourne, professor of mining geology at the University of Adelaide, and the director of multiple mineral exploration and mining companies.

Quote:He has published 130 scientific papers, six books and edited the Encyclopaedia of Geology.  Sounds pretty learned/credible, don't you think?
 These are his extensive credentials:

(05-28-2023, 06:58 AM)Kenzo Wrote: There has been most likely foul play with the thermometers itself ..


What if the airport radar was generating false record-high temperatures through random electrical noise?



And also by having wrong location where the thermometer is can give false readings....I.E too close to something that reflects heat to thermometer etc..like having solar panel too close reflecting sun/heat to sensor

(05-28-2023, 07:29 AM)727Sky Wrote:

(05-28-2023, 06:58 AM)Kenzo Wrote: There has been most likely foul play with the thermometers itself ..


What if the airport radar was generating false record-high temperatures through random electrical noise?



And also by having wrong location where the thermometer is can give false readings....I.E too close to something that reflects heat to thermometer etc..like having solar panel too close reflecting sun/heat to sensor

All cities are heat sinks. Drive (convertible) from the country to a city at night and you will feel the considerable heat bubble of the city as you approach... Also it does not help that most of the temperatures are taken from that same heat sink of a city. Climate change happens but this bunch of WEF and agenda 2030 idiots are in it for other means; none of which is good for the average citizen IMO..

(05-28-2023, 06:57 AM)727Sky Wrote: Good speech IMO
https://youtu.be/ljUg2D-vBak

Quote:“We can’t get to net zero, we don’t get this job done, unless agriculture is front and center as part of the solution,” Kerry, the special presidential envoy for climate, said

Hopefully Kerry himself will be at "net zero" by 2030 

Quote:The consensus that humans are causing recent global warming is shared by 90%–100% of publishing climate scientists according to six independent studies by co-authors of this paper. Those results are consistent with the 97% consensus reported by Cook et al (Environ. Res. Lett. 8 024024) based on 11 944 abstracts of research papers, of which 4014 took a position on the cause of recent global warming. A survey of authors of those papers(N = 2412 papers) also supported a 97% consensus. Tol (2016 Environ. Res. Lett. 11 048001) comes to a different conclusion using results from surveys of nonexperts such as economic geologists and a self-selected group of those who reject the consensus. We demonstrate that this outcome is not unexpected because the level of consensus correlates with expertise in climate science. At one point, Tol also reduces the apparent consensus by assuming that abstracts that do not explicitly state the cause of global warming (‘no position’)represent nonendorsement, an approach that if applied elsewhere would reject consensus on well-established theories such as plate tectonics. We examine the available studies and conclude that the finding of 97% consensus in published climate research is robust and consistent with other surveys of climate scientists and peer-reviewed studies.

(05-30-2023, 04:46 PM)BIAD Wrote: I watch the weather reports daily and the guy/gal in front of the green-screen offers the same comment
they have since I was a kid. "The weather is about right for this time of the year".

I'm 63 in December, if Ms Thunberg and Mr Gore's climate change was as impactful as they wail
about, those weathermen/women over the years must've been singing from the wrong song sheet!

(05-30-2023, 03:21 PM)F2d5thCav Wrote: Climate change?

When I was a GI in Germany back in the Cold War, I used to freeze my a** off in the cold, forested hills we maneuvered in.

This year, I went back to where I was stationed at that time.  I went up some of those same hills for old times sake.

Guess what?  I froze my a** off, and spring was just around the corner!

Yeah, local weather seems jankier than it used to be.  Nothing convinces me, though, that that effect is down to manmade influence.

Cheers

Chiefsmom--

Did you ever plant a tree for arbor day?  I did that once in school.  For once, it felt like a well spent day at the school.

Cheers

(05-30-2023, 11:47 AM)quintessentone Wrote: Freija invited me here to give opposite opinions and/or facts to equalize the playing field here. Anyway, the consensus on the consenus is that climate change is caused by humans activity.

Quote:The consensus that humans are causing recent global warming is shared by 90%–100% of publishing climate scientists according to six independent studies by co-authors of this paper. Those results are consistent with the 97% consensus reported by Cook et al (Environ. Res. Lett. 8 024024) based on 11 944 abstracts of research papers, of which 4014 took a position on the cause of recent global warming. A survey of authors of those papers(N = 2412 papers) also supported a 97% consensus. Tol (2016 Environ. Res. Lett. 11 048001) comes to a different conclusion using results from surveys of nonexperts such as economic geologists and a self-selected group of those who reject the consensus. We demonstrate that this outcome is not unexpected because the level of consensus correlates with expertise in climate science. At one point, Tol also reduces the apparent consensus by assuming that abstracts that do not explicitly state the cause of global warming (‘no position’)represent nonendorsement, an approach that if applied elsewhere would reject consensus on well-established theories such as plate tectonics. We examine the available studies and conclude that the finding of 97% consensus in published climate research is robust and consistent with other surveys of climate scientists and peer-reviewed studies.

https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/11/4/048002/pdf

So we see that the OPs choice of expert is proported to be a nonexpert in climate science by the consensus on consensus. And if we really think about it rationally what types of scientists are required to make educated claims in this area? I would think many different types of scientists from many different disciplines.

(05-30-2023, 03:06 PM)Chiefsmom Wrote: I never understood why all the fuss.

Why not just do what they taught us in middle school science?


Plant more trees.

They clean the air.

It is literally their job.