Quote:Smudging, or other rites involving the burning of sacred herbs (e.g., white sage) or resins, is a ceremony practiced by some Indigenous peoples of the Americas. While it bears some resemblance to other ceremonies and rituals involving smoke (e.g., Australian smoking ceremony, some types of saining) from other world cultures, notably those that use smoke for spiritual cleansing or blessing, the purposes and particulars of the ceremonies, and the substances used, can vary widely among tribes, bands, and nations, and even more so among different world cultures. In traditional communities, Elders maintain the protocols around these ceremonies and provide culturally specific guidance.[1] The smudging ceremony, by various names, has been used by others outside of the Indigenous communities as part of New Age or commercial practices, which has also led to the over-harvesting of some of the plants used in ceremonies.[2] Indigenous people in the US and Canada have argued against appropriation and over-harvesting of white sage.

(07-05-2024, 07:11 AM)OmegaLogos Wrote: Explanation: If you find this spirit to be a unwanted hassle then I can recommend something that might help you ok ...

Smudging

Quote:Smudging, or other rites involving the burning of sacred herbs (e.g., white sage) or resins, is a ceremony practiced by some Indigenous peoples of the Americas. While it bears some resemblance to other ceremonies and rituals involving smoke (e.g., Australian smoking ceremony, some types of saining) from other world cultures, notably those that use smoke for spiritual cleansing or blessing, the purposes and particulars of the ceremonies, and the substances used, can vary widely among tribes, bands, and nations, and even more so among different world cultures. In traditional communities, Elders maintain the protocols around these ceremonies and provide culturally specific guidance.[1] The smudging ceremony, by various names, has been used by others outside of the Indigenous communities as part of New Age or commercial practices, which has also led to the over-harvesting of some of the plants used in ceremonies.[2] Indigenous people in the US and Canada have argued against appropriation and over-harvesting of white sage.

Personal Disclosure: I hope this information helps you to find some peace eh?!

(07-05-2024, 10:30 AM)Ninurta Wrote: Generally speaking, white means "good", so I wouldn't worry about her much just yet. The more intriguing thing, to me, is why she's taken a sudden interest in you, and what the expression on her face means. It might also be significant that she fades out as soon as she knows you've seen her.

Have you tried doing any EVP work to ask her some questions? That could possibly yield an answer. There are several other ways to communicate, but most of them require "yes" or "no" answers, so the questions have to be pretty carefully constructed.

There are "ghost box" apps available for phones and computers, but I don't put much stock in most of them. I ran one on my computer once for 18 hours straight, and all it ever came up with was random gibberish,

There are 4 main "smudging" herbs. White sage cleanses. Native tobacco (nicotiana rustica, not regular smoking tobacco, nicotiana tabacum) blocks entry by evil spirits. Sweet grass draws good spirits, and promotes good feelings. Cedar is used for a variety of things, just as native tobacco is. The Indians around here used juniper for the cedar, and they are still called "cedars" around here. They grow by the acre here, all over the place. I grow my own sage and native tobacco (also referred to as sacred tobacco, Indian tobacco, and the Muskogee call it "little tobacco", because it only grows about 3 or 3 1/2 feet tall). I don't know any local source for the sweet grass, but that doesn't mean it isn't here, just that I don't know what I'm looking for.

I haven't smudged anything in 16 or 17 years, because I've not felt any need to. The last thing I smudged was a house, which I sage smudged to get rid of a troublesome spook. Don't trust what New Agers tell you about smudging, because they make crap up as they go along. Go to the source: native American Medicine People. I learned what I know from a kindly old Cherokee Medicine Man in North Carolina.

While I don't really smudge with the tobacco much, I do occasionally sprinkle perimeters with it, and sometimes block window entries with a "hand" (4 or 5 leaves tied in a bunch) of tobacco hung in the window.

According to the Natives, it also make a good "gift" for the Little People, will keep them in good spirits so's they don't whomp on ya, and draw them near your house and cause them to be more likely to be helpful. They also use it as a gift to the spirit of a plant when they harvest any part of the plant, and sometimes will leave a pinch on a rock or stump in the woods as a gift for the Little People.

Smoking it ain't for the faint of heart, though. It's got between 3 and 9 times the nicotine of regular tobacco, and will make you see stuff if you overindulge. It will give you a feeling of "leaving" your body some times, which I suppose is why Medicine People use it to communicate with the Spirit World. Some of the tiny top leaves, near the end of the plant's life, will have up to 20 times the nicotine levels of regular smoking tobacco. Those get set aside for "special" uses.

I've got about a half a pound of native tobacco left over from last year's crop if you think you'll need any, and a crap-ton of seeds if you want to try your hand at growing your own for future use. I've got more seeds than I'll ever be able to use. Hundreds of thousands of them. Each plant throws about 800 seeds per pod, and will have up to about 20 seed pods per plant.

I don't have enough sage to distribute, as my plants are still young, only in their second year, but I can get cedar/juniper pretty easily if you need any.

.

(07-05-2024, 11:14 AM)Ninurta Wrote: A couple of months ago, I was sitting here minding my own business, reading a web page, when there was a sudden "streak" of smoke or mist that darted between myself and the computer screen, moving from my right to my left, and hauling ass like it's ass was on fire and it's head was catching.

The motion caught my attention, so I looked to the left to see if I could still see it. Over beside the cabinet that my TV sits on, right next to the corner of the cabinet, there was... something... standing there. It was about 2 1/2 feet tall, and maybe 8" wide. it was black, and it was shimmering is the best way I can describe it. just very rapidly fading out and then back in, almost flashing rapidly. It was there for a good 10 seconds or so, with me staring at it thinking "what the hell?" Then it just popped out of existence, and a faint white wisp rose up from that location and went through the ceiling.

I was kinda stunned, but the impression I got was that whatever the white streak was, it "attacked" the black shimmer, and put it to going.

I just shrugged and muttered "Huh. Imagine that." and went right back to reading.

.

(07-05-2024, 12:01 PM)NightskyeB4Dawn Wrote:

(07-05-2024, 11:14 AM)Ninurta Wrote: A couple of months ago, I was sitting here minding my own business, reading a web page, when there was a sudden "streak" of smoke or mist that darted between myself and the computer screen, moving from my right to my left, and hauling ass like it's ass was on fire and it's head was catching.

The motion caught my attention, so I looked to the left to see if I could still see it. Over beside the cabinet that my TV sits on, right next to the corner of the cabinet, there was... something... standing there. It was about 2 1/2 feet tall, and maybe 8" wide. it was black, and it was shimmering is the best way I can describe it. just very rapidly fading out and then back in, almost flashing rapidly. It was there for a good 10 seconds or so, with me staring at it thinking "what the hell?" Then it just popped out of existence, and a faint white wisp rose up from that location and went through the ceiling.

I was kinda stunned, but the impression I got was that whatever the white streak was, it "attacked" the black shimmer, and put it to going.

I just shrugged and muttered "Huh. Imagine that." and went right back to reading.

.

Interesting.

My brother was doing some work on his computer a while back, this is exactly what he described that he saw.

My mom often speaks of the lady in white that she sees often.

(07-05-2024, 05:13 PM)FlickerOfLight Wrote:

(07-05-2024, 12:01 PM)NightskyeB4Dawn Wrote:

(07-05-2024, 11:14 AM)Ninurta Wrote: A couple of months ago, I was sitting here minding my own business, reading a web page, when there was a sudden "streak" of smoke or mist that darted between myself and the computer screen, moving from my right to my left, and hauling ass like it's ass was on fire and it's head was catching.

The motion caught my attention, so I looked to the left to see if I could still see it. Over beside the cabinet that my TV sits on, right next to the corner of the cabinet, there was... something... standing there. It was about 2 1/2 feet tall, and maybe 8" wide. it was black, and it was shimmering is the best way I can describe it. just very rapidly fading out and then back in, almost flashing rapidly. It was there for a good 10 seconds or so, with me staring at it thinking "what the hell?" Then it just popped out of existence, and a faint white wisp rose up from that location and went through the ceiling.

I was kinda stunned, but the impression I got was that whatever the white streak was, it "attacked" the black shimmer, and put it to going.

I just shrugged and muttered "Huh. Imagine that." and went right back to reading.

.

Interesting.

My brother was doing some work on his computer a while back, this is exactly what he described that he saw.

My mom often speaks of the lady in white that she sees often.

When NightskyeB4Dawn said her mom has seen this I thought maybe there is some truth to this and I'm not actually just going crazy.

So I did a web search of this woman in white.

I had no idea how popular this tale was. Hundreds of sites talking about this woman in white.

I described her exactly as others have. 

The takes vary a little. Some say this is the woman on the side of highways who kills men who are unfaithful or abusive towards women. Some say she has lost a child and steals children trying to replace her own lost child. Some say she has lost her romantic love partner and roams around looking to replace or find him.


Tons of lore on this particular ghost. 

Apparently I've seen one of the most popular ghost stories ever told.

Wow...

Ummmm.....I know how this looks now, but this is all the truth. I have seen the "woman in white." The legend is real.
https://exemplore.com/paranormal/The-Woman-in-White-A-Legend

I did a check if the obituaries from this area of any young women who recently passed. No young women have died around here in quite some time.

Ps. I live right off of a highway. It's s stones throw away from where I'm sitting.

---

I've read up on this story. This particular ghost has been seen all over the world. All similar tales. 

She's considered to be a bad omen. An omen of an upcoming death or tragedy. 

The weirdest part of this is the fact that I've actually had this strange feeling I was going to die soon, or something very tragic was right around the corner. 

Then the woman in white shows up.

Weird.

(07-05-2024, 08:11 PM)Ninurta Wrote:

(07-05-2024, 05:13 PM)FlickerOfLight Wrote:

(07-05-2024, 12:01 PM)NightskyeB4Dawn Wrote:

(07-05-2024, 11:14 AM)Ninurta Wrote: A couple of months ago, I was sitting here minding my own business, reading a web page, when there was a sudden "streak" of smoke or mist that darted between myself and the computer screen, moving from my right to my left, and hauling ass like it's ass was on fire and it's head was catching.

The motion caught my attention, so I looked to the left to see if I could still see it. Over beside the cabinet that my TV sits on, right next to the corner of the cabinet, there was... something... standing there. It was about 2 1/2 feet tall, and maybe 8" wide. it was black, and it was shimmering is the best way I can describe it. just very rapidly fading out and then back in, almost flashing rapidly. It was there for a good 10 seconds or so, with me staring at it thinking "what the hell?" Then it just popped out of existence, and a faint white wisp rose up from that location and went through the ceiling.

I was kinda stunned, but the impression I got was that whatever the white streak was, it "attacked" the black shimmer, and put it to going.

I just shrugged and muttered "Huh. Imagine that." and went right back to reading.

.

Interesting.

My brother was doing some work on his computer a while back, this is exactly what he described that he saw.

My mom often speaks of the lady in white that she sees often.

When NightskyeB4Dawn said her mom has seen this I thought maybe there is some truth to this and I'm not actually just going crazy.

So I did a web search of this woman in white.

I had no idea how popular this tale was. Hundreds of sites talking about this woman in white.

I described her exactly as others have. 

The takes vary a little. Some say this is the woman on the side of highways who kills men who are unfaithful or abusive towards women. Some say she has lost a child and steals children trying to replace her own lost child. Some say she has lost her romantic love partner and roams around looking to replace or find him.


Tons of lore on this particular ghost. 

Apparently I've seen one of the most popular ghost stories ever told.

Wow...

Ummmm.....I know how this looks now, but this is all the truth. I have seen the "woman in white." The legend is real.
https://exemplore.com/paranormal/The-Woman-in-White-A-Legend

I did a check if the obituaries from this area of any young women who recently passed. No young women have died around here in quite some time.

Ps. I live right off of a highway. It's s stones throw away from where I'm sitting.

---

I've read up on this story. This particular ghost has been seen all over the world. All similar tales. 

She's considered to be a bad omen. An omen of an upcoming death or tragedy. 

The weirdest part of this is the fact that I've actually had this strange feeling I was going to die soon, or something very tragic was right around the corner. 

Then the woman in white shows up.

Weird.

NO. That's forbidden. I simply can't allow it. If you did die, we'd never know - it's not like the headline of your obituary would read "FlickerOfLight Sputters Out", so we'd never know.



When Mystic Wanderer died, it was a month before we knew, and then only because a friend she had convinced to join here dropped by to tell us. When Guohua died, it was around 2 months I think before we knew, and then only because I'd gotten tired of giving her her "space", and went looking for her, found her husband instead, who then let us know.




So, no, that is disallowed, because we would never know, and therefore could not light a candle for you in the Lit Candle Hall.




Nope. Nope. Nope.



====================================



Now in my case, if I were to shuffle off this mortal coil, I'm pretty sure Grace would drop in to let y'all know so that you could hold a lottery to raffle off the prez-ship. Same for Kdog and GeauHomeLittleD - if one bit the dust, the other would likely let us know. But most of the membership doesn't have an arrangement that would work like that, so I'm afraid I've had to make a new rule, no one gets to die.



It's just that simple. I have spoken!



.

(07-05-2024, 10:49 PM)NightskyeB4Dawn Wrote: The power of the mind is amazing. You would be surprised at what you can manifest.

There is a reason that, "Do not be afraid", is in the Bible 365 times.

My mother will be 90 years old come November, and she has been seeing the lady in white for years.

I don't think she is a harbinger. If anything, she may be trail marker, warning you that you are about to go off track.

(07-06-2024, 01:28 AM)Ninurta Wrote: The preacher that baptized me nearly 40 years ago was named Jack Hamilton. He's since gone on to his reward, and I'm convinced he's playing golf in Heaven. How do I know? Because Jack told me there would be golf courses in Heaven. I laughed, and he said, serious as a heart attack, "of course there are golf courses there! It wouldn't be Heaven without golf courses!"

Old Jack REALLY liked his golf, you see.

Something else Old Jack always told us was to never, EVER, pray for patience. According to Jack, the Bible says "tribulation worketh patience", and so, if you pray for patience, what you are actually praying for is trouble, because that is what teaches us patience.

I wonder what the Bible says about cutting a deal with God to express more gratitude?

.

(07-05-2024, 05:45 AM)FlickerOfLight Wrote: I am a social butterfly. Or at least not the type to stay cooped up inside constantly.

(07-05-2024, 05:45 AM)FlickerOfLight Wrote: I'm not sure I want to run this one off just yet... My issue is, I don't think a cleansing will work. At least not for too long. I've tried.

(07-05-2024, 05:45 AM)FlickerOfLight Wrote: She's considered to be a bad omen. An omen of an upcoming death or tragedy.

(07-05-2024, 05:45 AM)FlickerOfLight Wrote: I turn and lock eyes with this woman in white....staring dead at me. Looking frantic.

(07-05-2024, 05:45 AM)FlickerOfLight Wrote: She's got long dark hair,

(07-05-2024, 05:45 AM)FlickerOfLight Wrote: I had not even thought about addressing her yet. I'll wait and see if I see her again and then maybe try and communicate verbally first and see what response I get, if any.

(07-05-2024, 10:49 PM)NightskyeB4Dawn Wrote: My mother will be 90 years old come November, and she has been seeing the lady in white for years.

I don't think she is a harbinger. If anything, she may be trail marker, warning you that you are about to go off track.

(07-05-2024, 05:45 AM)FlickerOfLight Wrote: I have been battling fear. An unknown fear, or fear of the unknown.

(07-06-2024, 07:20 PM)MrJesterium Wrote:

(07-05-2024, 05:45 AM)FlickerOfLight Wrote: I am a social butterfly. Or at least not the type to stay cooped up inside constantly.

I am the exact opposite, I didn't leave my apartment until 2021.

(07-05-2024, 05:45 AM)FlickerOfLight Wrote: I'm not sure I want to run this one off just yet... My issue is, I don't think a cleansing will work. At least not for too long. I've tried.

Afaik DIY saging can worsen a situation if performed improperly.
Can you get yourself a Himalayan salt lamp? My clairvoyant friend Kate claims it works really well for her, but she wasn't sure whether it affected all ghosts or only bad spirits.

She told me: When you have abilties you often are met by many ghosts, so I would just ask these “strangers” how it felt to be near the lamp, if they are able to turn it off. So far it seems to be like two magnets pushing away from each other instead of pulling towards each other - is the feeling one of them said it had felt like.

(07-05-2024, 05:45 AM)FlickerOfLight Wrote: She's considered to be a bad omen. An omen of an upcoming death or tragedy.

This legend is unfounded,
a lot of female ghosts wear white clothes.

In my reading of Justinus Kerner's Seeress of Prevorst, especially his account of Friederike Hauffe's last days, my attention was drawn to this passage:

"Three weeks before her decease, she had three times a second-sight, which also indicated the approaching catastrophe. There appeared to her a benign female figure, taller than herself, enveloped in black; she saw only the bust; the rest of the form was also wrapt in black, and stood in an open coffin, beside it was a white cross. The apparition beckoned to her, and she felt its cold breath. She said it was not a spirit, but a portentous second-sight; and well she knew what it foreboded."

I found a similar story in Cheiro's True Ghost Stories, Chapter VI:

"In another family that I have known for many years, the warning appears in the form of a sinister-looking figure of a white-haired woman who appears in the dead of night by the bedside of each member of the family in rotation. The one who does not have the visitation is the one who is to die... The ghostly white-haired visitor appears at the bedside with a lighted candle in her left hand. With the index finger of her right, she touches the sleeper’s face and forces the person to wake up and look at her."

Kerner shared another anecdote from his patient:

"Three successive days before the death of her father, at a time that the news of his illness had not reached her, she saw, when she was awake, a coffin standing by her bed, which was covered by a mort-cloth, on which lay a white cross. She was very much alarmed, and said she feared her father was dead, or sick...
Three times when awake she saw her mother-in-law looking into a coffin: seven days afterwards this lady fell ill, but she recovered. When Mrs. Hauffe saw the image of a person lying dead in a coffin, it predicted their approaching death,—if alive, a severe illness."

So just because a woman in white appears doesn't automatically mean she's an omen of death, it's more nuanced than that. There are accompanying signs, conditions, etc. which come with such appearances.

(07-05-2024, 05:45 AM)FlickerOfLight Wrote: I turn and lock eyes with this woman in white....staring dead at me. Looking frantic.

She's frantic because she's concerned about your life spiralling out of control.

Similar case: https://old.reddit.com/r/Thetruthishere/comments/kku5ve/a_weird_stranger_that_looked_dead_scared_about/

Her eyes were wide open, as if she was looking through me, but the way she was looking at me was as if she was very scared about something. She told me with a shivering voice: "Run", I was very weirded out and was like: "What?!", she repeated herself as she was holding my arms, with the shiver in her voice I could hear the fear in her voice and see the fear in her eyes, she looked very worried about me, and kept repeating: "Run, you're in danger, Run, be careful out there."

There have actually been a lot of stories where strangers look people in the eye and warn them. I think they were either clairs, ghosts, or angels. https://pixeldrain.com/u/RWfc1Snj

(07-05-2024, 05:45 AM)FlickerOfLight Wrote: She's got long dark hair,

Was she wearing a veil over her head, a head-covering? Hauffe said all female spirits without exception wore one in her days.

(07-05-2024, 05:45 AM)FlickerOfLight Wrote: I had not even thought about addressing her yet. I'll wait and see if I see her again and then maybe try and communicate verbally first and see what response I get, if any.

Make sure to ask her about what happens to us after death. See the attached screencap.

Hauffe says, "I observe that the happy spirits have the same difficulty in answering questions regarding earthly matters, as the evil ones have in doing it with respect to heavenly ones; the first belong not to earth, nor the last to heaven." She added, "How the soul is to exist after death?, is assuredly a question worth asking!"

(07-05-2024, 10:49 PM)NightskyeB4Dawn Wrote: My mother will be 90 years old come November, and she has been seeing the lady in white for years.

I don't think she is a harbinger. If anything, she may be trail marker, warning you that you are about to go off track.

This is a very intuitive answer!  Incidentally, Tom Brown, Jr. wrote about this in The Tracker:

"An omen is an insight that changes your way of seeing the world. It is a landmark against which everything that follows or preceded it comes to be measured... An omen is an experience that interprets all events that follow it and reinterprets everything that went before... Omens change our understanding of our relationship to the world. Nothing is ever exactly the same once you have experienced an omen."

My grandma is 99yo, she used to talk to empty space in her sleep and while awake, and she claimed to see a little boy come to her, but my mother dismissed it as hallucinations.

(07-05-2024, 05:45 AM)FlickerOfLight Wrote: I have been battling fear. An unknown fear, or fear of the unknown.

You can't fight fear, that strengthens it, stop giving it any attention. Isn't there any subject you've been curious to learn about?

(07-06-2024, 08:12 PM)FlickerOfLight Wrote: As I sit here now, calm and sober minded, I am looking for my next learning experience. I've spent far too long on this crap because I kept getting lied to. Unweaving a web of manipulation is tike consuming. This is the end of a year+ long journey of figuring out "who am i?".

.

Quote:Many people who have experienced a paranormal occurrence have reported seeing ghostly things from out of the corner of their eyes. People will catch fleeting glimpses of things moving in their peripheral vision only to have them disappear when viewed directly. These "corner of the eye" type of visions are most often the case under lighted conditions, however, such stories claim that at night, inside of a darkened room, illuminated specters and darkened shades become directly visible.

Some might say that such is the flight of fancy of our minds when faced with the diminished information obtained from the extreme limits of our vision. Others, like myself, would entertain the idea that perhaps the human eye has the ability to sense things outside of the range of what is considered normal vision. There is a whole universe of things we can't see directly, but perhaps under the right conditions we can see the unseen.