Quote:"The only reason that a student will be stopped is if the machine beeps — that is independent of what the student looks like, who they are, what gender, what race or ethnicity. In terms of students being targeted more from a particular demographic over another, that won't happen because it's an objective beep machine that'll be the cause for a stop of any student," she said.

Quote:A number of school safety experts warn that security measures like metal detectors are not a safety guarantee and instead can be detrimental to students — especially those from communities of color.

"The goal is to make sure that we're using every tool in our arsenal to keep students safe, but can't come at the cost of making them feel unsafe in other ways, of course. So we're we're taking that into account."

"Our students are already under so much stress," Baayd said. "Walking through a weapon detector is emotionally exhausting. I am speaking from my own experiences. I walk through TSA and I have to prepare myself two days in advance and worry if that weapon detector or that scanner goes off. ... And also I'm thinking about the minority kids who come from the refugee world, from places of war and then they would have to walk in through this and if it beeps, it's a nightmare. I don't know how to explain it to you."
Other board members said while they understand and appreciate Anderson's and Baayd's concerns, parents from a variety of backgrounds have pleaded with board members for the machines. KSL-TV also reported that parents are divided over the measure.
"I know that we need to recognize that it's challenging for individuals, but then we also need to consider that there are other individuals and many parents that this is giving them some peace of mind," board member Bryan Jensen said.

Odis Johnson, the executive director of the Johns Hopkins Center for Safe & Healthy Schools, says the center's research has linked different forms of school surveillance — ranging from metal detectors to book bag searches — to poorer educational outcomes, such as lower math scores and lower likelihood of college enrollment as well as a higher likelihood of being suspended.
A number of studies have also found that school surveillance methods are more likely to be used at schools with a more diverse student body. Johnson, for example, said his center found African American students were four times more likely to be enrolled in such schools.
The Salt Lake City School District has opted to roll out the measure at all high schools but Innovations Early College High School. But Johnson said there is still cause for concern since the measure is being adopted in a diverse, urban school district and not across the state. In fact, Salt Lake City School District is one of the most racially and ethnically diverse districts in the state with a minority student population of 59%.
"It ends up exacerbating those disparities that are really the story nationwide, and that's a concern," he said. "While the technology may be implemented in every school ... we've got to keep in mind that children don't respond equally to similar technology because they come from communities, they come from experiences with not only the technology and teachers but the justice system, which tends to entangle kids from minoritized backgrounds, historically, at higher rates than any other population. So it's not just equal opportunity in terms of the technology; it's unequal opportunity in how kids respond to the same technology."

Quote:"Rep. Jamaal Bowman (D-NY) was caught on camera pulling the Cannon fire alarm ahead of this motion to adjourn vote as Dems tried to delay the CR vote, multiple sources tell me," she said on Saturday. "We have reached out to him for comment - we haven't viewed footage ourselves."

Beavers then added, "There was an alert to Capitol police officers to locate him, I'm told."


"Rep. Jamaal Bowman (D-NY) was caught on camera pulling the Cannon fire alarm ahead of this motion to adjourn vote as Dems tried to delay the CR vote, multiple sources tell me," she said on Saturday. "We have reached out to him for comment - we haven't viewed footage ourselves."

Beavers then added, "There was an alert to Capitol police officers to locate him, I'm told."

(10-02-2023, 07:48 PM)Infolurker Wrote: This logic should be the end of it but somehow it is not.

Either put them in or don't. 

Don't bring guns and knives to class and you won't get stopped... pretty damned easy.

Don't get suspended and have a better freeking educational outcome... who would have thought?

rant over.

1. Ya don't pass first grade? Repeat first grade.
   
2. Too big to be in first grade? Go find work as an apprentice somewhere.
   
3. Cause a commotion? Get suspended. This ain't the breakfast club.
   
4. Keep it up? Get expelled and see the answer to #2 above.
   
5. Hurt somebody? Get expelled and see the answer to #2 above.
   
6. Teacher can't run the class? Fire her and no more work with kids
   
7. Principal can't run the school? Fire him and no more work with kids.
   

(10-04-2023, 12:16 PM)ancientlight Wrote: Hopefully the pendulum swings back to the sane side soon, I'm very tired of this clown world.

(10-04-2023, 03:48 PM)F2d5thCav Wrote: Let's go CT with this.

What are those machines really doing to those kids ?



Cheers

ETA: The tune above was banned in Korea while I was stationed there. 

(10-04-2023, 04:03 PM)Snarl Wrote:

(10-04-2023, 03:48 PM)F2d5thCav Wrote: Let's go CT with this.

What are those machines really doing to those kids ?



Cheers

Normalizing.

Ya know I was looking back over my shoulder thinking, "I've seen this before. Where did I 'see' it?"

And then I remembered: I saw this on a trip into Poland. I saw it on a trip into Czechoslovakia.

It's hordes of people doing because 'or else!!' Not doing because 'or else!!' Or dashing about like sheep dogs.

_This_ is what those machines are doing to the kids.

ETA: The tune above was banned in Korea while I was stationed there.