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YouTube Parenting For Prospective Fiends. - BIAD - 09-03-2023

The Daemons are among us.
Sure

Quote:Ruby Franke: '8 Passengers' parenting mum arrested on child abuse suspicion

[Image: _130931142_hildebrandt-franke-1.jpg.webp]
Ruby Franke (right) and Jodi Nan Hildebrandt.

'A Utah woman who ran a popular parenting advice YouTube channel is facing child abuse charges after
her malnourished son escaped from home, officials said. Ruby Franke and her business partner Jodi Nan
Hildebrandt were arrested in Ivins, Utah this week.

Officials also found Ms Franke's 10-year-old daughter in a malnourished condition at her partner's house.
Both women were charged with six counts of child abuse on Friday. The BBC has contacted Ms Franke
and Ms Hildebrandt for comment. Police say Ms Franke's 12-year-old son climbed out of the window and
ran to a neighbour's house to ask for food and water.

"The calling party [the neighbour] stated the juvenile appeared to be emaciated and malnourished, with
open wounds and duct tape around the extremities," according to a statement from the Santa-Clara Ivins
Public Safety Department.

"Upon arrival, law enforcement observed the wounds and the malnourishment of [the boy] to be severe,"
the department said. The boy had to be taken to the hospital "due to his deep lacerations from being tied
up with rope and from his malnourishment". Ms Franke's 10-year-old daughter was also taken to the hospital.

Officials later obtained a search warrant in connection with the incident, and in total, four children were taken
into the care of family and child services, according to the statement. On Friday, Washington County officials
in Utah formally charged Ms Franke and Ms Hildebrandt.

The charges stem from the alleged abuse of two children in three different ways: physical abuse, malnutrition
and severe emotional harm. Each count carries a prison sentence of up to 10 years and a fine of up to $10,000
(£7,940), Washington County officials said.

Ms Franke, 41, became YouTube famous in 2015 for her channel called 8 Passengers that discussed parenting
of her six children. The channel gained over 2 million subscribers before it was deactivated earlier this year.
The vlogger has faced a backlash in the past for her strict parenting measures described on the channel, including
her son claiming he slept on a bean bag for several months as punishment and Ms Franke describing withholding
meals as another disciplinary measure.

The bean bag incident led some viewers to call local child protective services, though Ms Franke claimed to Insider
the incident had been taken out of context. She has also appeared in YouTube videos posted by Ms Hildebrandt
- a counsellor and life coach - on her site, ConneXions Classroom.

In one such video posted on 10 May 2022, Ms Franke described herself as Ms Hildebrandt's "side-kick" and
questioned why so many children were suffering from depression. "I never expected my second-grader to come
home and say so-and-so has anxiety and so-and-so has depression," she said. "Something is off. This isn't right."
In a second video - entitled "guiding children to truth" - Ms Hildebrandt called on mothers "to understand that
principles are necessary" for children to have a "calm and peaceful" life.

According to a report in the Salt Lake Tribune, Ms Hildebrandt was put on probation for 18 months and nearly lost
her licence to be a pornography-addiction therapist after publicly discussing a patient without his permission.

Ms Franke's eldest daughter Shari Franke shared a post on Instagram after her mother's arrest, saying that she
and her family "are so glad justice is being served", US media reported. "We've been trying to tell the police and
CPS for years about this, and so glad they finally decided to step up," she reportedly said.

Ms Franke has requested an attorney and did not speak to officers, according to the Associated Press. That
attorney had not publicly been identified on Thursday...'
Archived BBC Article:

Huh


RE: YouTube Parenting For Prospective Fiends. - 727Sky - 09-03-2023

For those of us that had good moms and dads we should think every now and then just how lucky we were.


RE: YouTube Parenting For Prospective Fiends. - quintessentone - 09-03-2023

I mean it is said everyone comes from some sort of a dysfunctional family dynamic, whether one researched parenting advice or the stages of child development - or not. 

One of my friend's mother would put out a glass of milk with dinner but forbade anyone from drinking the milk until all food was eaten, I did not know what to make of that. I was never forced to eat every morsel from my plate, nor were meals withheld. That is toxic parenting, plain and simple.

Another mother would let her teenage son look at playboy magazines in front or her and in front of us young girls.

But that was long, long ago in a far away place that I hope no longer exists.

Today's parenting has many challenges and it is easy to see how some people can swing too far to the protective and/or strict side, but punishment is not the same as discipline. IMO


RE: YouTube Parenting For Prospective Fiends. - DuckforcoveR - 09-03-2023

This is well beyond terrifying. How many cases slip through the cracks  Sad


RE: YouTube Parenting For Prospective Fiends. - NightskyeB4Dawn - 09-03-2023

(09-03-2023, 09:52 AM)727Sky Wrote: For those of us that had good moms and dads we should think every now and then just how lucky we were.

There are good parents out there. 

I just congratulated a young parent for the actions of his child. 

I was watching the drinks so I could refill them because there were a lot of children in line, and the drinks were going fast.

I saw an elderly woman of color waiting her turn after the children. One of the children was about 11 years old, when his turn came to get his drink, he asked the lady to come and take his position in line, so she could get her drink before it was all gone.

I stepped in and told everyone that there was plenty to go around, as I refilled the canisters.

I gave the young man and the lady their drinks, and told the young boy how pleased I was of his act of generosity and his gentlemanly behavior.

I know the young man's father. The father is drop dead gorgeous and would be labeled pure toxic masculinity. So I told him what I had witnessed. Two of his other sons were with him when I told him about their brother. 

All of them were beaming, when I walked away, I heard one of his sons say to him. "Now I know why you always tell us the women come first." "It is a good thing to be a gentleman."

I laughed to myself. And it reminded me that there is still a lot of hope left for our children if we stop screwing up. We have done a piss poor job of preparing them.


RE: YouTube Parenting For Prospective Fiends. - EndtheMadnessNow - 09-04-2023

I would enjoy taking these two out to the desert. Not to kill them but teach them a very hard lesson they'll never forget.


RE: YouTube Parenting For Prospective Fiends. - Infolurker - 09-04-2023

This gives me memories of Mommie Dearest

Wire Hangers!!!!!!