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Time Laps - Minstrel - 11-26-2022

The Teotihuacan Pyramid
(Photos from the FB page of Archaeological Wonders - https://www.facebook.com/archaeologicalwonders/photos/205457145222533)

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This pair of images flipped a switch in the old memory banks to a find and the loss of that find in 2009.

For starters, I don't recall exactly when I began using Google Earth for entertainment/discovery purposes, but am certain it must have been prior to early 2009.
And, while I don't recall the initial impetus, I am fairly certain it had to do with Peru-sing ( Wink ) the Nazca Lines.

An example from said Nazca Lines...

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As those initial forays broadened, to span much of the globe, some efforts began to focus on Central America, and, more specifically, Guatemala...where I stumbled upon what was referred to, at the time, as El Mirador - a Mayan archaeological site in the northeastern corner (at the time), not far from the border with Belize.

Today, should you search "El Mirador, Guatemala" in Google Earth, you will be taken to the location of a restaurant much farther south.

Anyway - after a good bit of time searching the surrounds...one day, I found myself moving west along that northern border, marking and documenting high points, low points, and other points of interest...then, taking this effort in a northerly direction into Mexico...and, as those efforts developed, one day, said efforts were focused on documenting (in fine detail) a "mountain-top strip" that measured a couple of feet (unvarying) in width, and precisely 300 feet (due north/south) in length, amid a group of mountains somewhere in northeastern Mexico (moving toward the border with Texas).

I say "somewhere" (in NE Mexico) because of what happened, on THIS day (November 26th) in 2009...(or, actually, November 27th - as will be evident shortly)...

We were living in a duplex...and, sometime during Thanksgiving's evening hours, the neighbor's toilet (or, the pipe that sent their-&-our waste to a sewer line in the alley) became stopped, and backed up...causing said waste to back into our domicile.

We were notified of this disgust by the sound of canine paws splashing through the mess...during the cold dark hours of the morning of the 27th.

A great deal of urgent effort went into rescuing all manner of anything residing on the floor (including such things as boxes of old photos)...but - the spiral notebook in which I had logged the "mountain-top strip" sat directly on the floor...and, in effort to get as much of the "shit" out of our dwelling as possible, my wife threw it into a pile outside (to go directly into the dumpster). (At the time, it was nowhere among my concerns.)

A short time later, we had moved into a proper home...and, it was then that I discovered the loss of this 'treasure'.

I have tried numerous times since then to 're-discover' this anomaly in Northeast Mexico, to no avail.

But - the images above sparked the memory...and made me wonder whether I (or anyone) will ever find it, again.

Should you be anyone interested in taking up such an effort, you might note that said location was well north of Mexico City...and thus, the Teotihuacan Pyramid shown above.


RE: Time Laps - EndtheMadnessNow - 11-27-2022

That's quite a memorable story. Laughing 

Dunno if this meets what you have in mind, but came across this location.

17.755053, -89.920243

Update, Project El Mirador, Peten, Guatemala


Archaeology - El Mirador project in Guatemala, 1979

El Mirador, the Lost City of the Maya

Remnant of the Stargate 'Altar' found in Guatemala:

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No, not really but sure is interesting stuff.

The Firestone Emblem


RE: Time Laps - Minstrel - 11-27-2022

(11-27-2022, 03:58 AM)EndtheMadnessNow Wrote: That's quite a memorable story. Laughing 

Dunno if this meets what you have in mind, but came across this location.

17.755053, -89.920243

Update, Project El Mirador, Peten, Guatemala


Archaeology - El Mirador project in Guatemala, 1979

El Mirador, the Lost City of the Maya

Remnant of the Stargate 'Altar' found in Guatemala:

[Image: MMDQia0.jpg]

No, not really but sure is interesting stuff.

The Firestone Emblem

Indeed, that is the location of the "El Mirador" that I had been studying prior to journeying west then north through Mexico.

I believe that - according to the numbers of high & low points marked (someday, I will locate the hard drive that has the saved/stored images of those high & low points) on that westward journey, I believe this to have been another of the massive complexes currently being identified via LIDAR elsewhere throughout Central (and South) America.

I don't know what to believe regarding Edgar Cayce's...stuff.
Some seems too perfect not to be accurate...while some fits too conveniently with narratives that stand in stark contrast to my own beliefs/understandings, for me to take seriously. ... Nevertheless - as you say - "interesting stuff".


RE: Time Laps - EndtheMadnessNow - 12-24-2022

Quote:Archaeologists Discover Huge Lost Civilization in Guatemala (December 21, 2022)

A new survey revealed nearly 1,000 Maya settlements, with pyramids and ballcourts, that date back more than 2,000 years.

Archaeologists have discovered the ruins of a vast ancient Maya civilization that flourished more than 2,000 years ago in northern Guatemala, reports a new study. This long-lost urban web encompassed nearly 1,000 settlements across 650 square miles, linked by an immense causeway system, which was mapped out with airborne laser instruments, known as LiDAR.

The results of the LiDAR survey “unveiled a remarkable density of Maya sites” in Guatemala’s Mirador-Calakmul Karst Basin (MCKB) that “challenges the old notion of sparse early human occupation” in this area during the “Preclassical” period spanning 1,000 BC to 150 AD, according to a study published this month in the journal Cambridge Core.

Scientists led by Richard Hansen, an archaeologist at Idaho State University and the director of the Mirador Basin Project, offer “an introduction to one of the largest, contiguous, regional LiDAR studies published to date in the Maya Lowlands,” a region that covers parts of Mexico, Guatemala, and Belize, according to the study.

“The LiDAR survey revealed an extraordinary density and distribution of Maya sites concentrated in the MCKB, many of them linked directly or indirectly by a vast causeway network” that includes 110 miles of raised roads, the researchers continued, noting that the sprawling civilization hints at “labor investments that defy organizational capabilities of lesser polities and potentially portray the strategies of governance in the Preclassic period.”

LiDAR is a remote-sensing technology that bounces lasers off of surfaces in order to generate detailed maps that are based on the time it takes for the pulses to return to a receiver. This method has revolutionized archaeology, among many other fields, because it can expose signs of past human activity that may be buried under dense vegetation—a very common problem for Maya researchers—or is otherwise undetectable to traditional fieldwork on the ground.

Hansen and his colleagues flew airborne LiDAR devices over the MCKB for years at altitudes of about 2,000 feet to search for hidden traces of ancient settlements. To their delight, the survey uncovered “dense concentrations of new and previously unknown contemporaneous sites” including “massive platform and pyramid constructions” that suggest the presence of a centralized and complex political structure, according to the study.

These constructions include dozens of ballcourts for playing Mesoamerican sports and a complex water management system of canals and reservoirs. The team also probed the remains of the 230-foot-tall pyramid of Danta, located in the Maya metropolis of El Mirador, which served as a major public attraction and the epicenter for several causeways.

“Depending on the natural configurations of the bedrock below the structure, the entire building could have had as much as 6,000,000 to 10,000,000 person-days of labor, exceeding the capacity of polities of lower hierarchical political and economic status, and suggesting a high level of organization as the sociopolitical and economic patron of such prodigious growth,” Hansen and his colleagues said in the study.

The dazzling new discovery sheds light on the people who lived in the bustling cities of this forested basin for more than 1,000 years. Hansen and his team hope that future research will continue to unlock the secrets of this ancient civilization, and perhaps discover new settlements that have remained hidden for many centuries.

“The skeleton of the ancient political and economic structure as a kingdom-state in the Middle and Late Preclassic periods has a tantalizing presence in the Mirador-Calakmul Karst Basin,” the team concluded.