Quote:Congress held a hearing on UFOs on Wednesday (26 July) after whistleblowers claimed that the US government has kept information about aliens secret for years. Lawmakers appeared on Capitol Hill where several Pentagon whistleblowers will present testimony about the existence of extraterrestrial life. The three witnesses, who previously served in the US military, have already come forward with claims that the government has kept information about UFOs secret for years. They testified about what they know about alien life. Witnesses included David Grusch, former US Air Force intelligence officer, former US Navy commander David Fravor, and former US Navy pilot Ryan Graves. The hearing titled “Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency" explored "firsthand accounts of unidentified anomalous phenomena (UAP) and assess the federal government’s transparency and accountability regarding UAPs’ possible threats to US national security," the House Oversight Committee said.

(07-27-2023, 05:06 AM)727Sky Wrote: I was impressed with both the witnesses and the selected panel members as for once they seemed to know what they were talking about. They are trying to get a reporting procedure for both civilian and government witnesses. Mr. G was very impressive and come to find out he has a physics degree; in other words not just another pretty face..

Quote:Congress held a hearing on UFOs on Wednesday (26 July) after whistleblowers claimed that the US government has kept information about aliens secret for years. Lawmakers appeared on Capitol Hill where several Pentagon whistleblowers will present testimony about the existence of extraterrestrial life. The three witnesses, who previously served in the US military, have already come forward with claims that the government has kept information about UFOs secret for years. They testified about what they know about alien life. Witnesses included David Grusch, former US Air Force intelligence officer, former US Navy commander David Fravor, and former US Navy pilot Ryan Graves. The hearing titled “Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency" explored "firsthand accounts of unidentified anomalous phenomena (UAP) and assess the federal government’s transparency and accountability regarding UAPs’ possible threats to US national security," the House Oversight Committee said.

(07-27-2023, 08:09 AM)A51Watcher2 Wrote: Yep. Just like the last hearing.

And when they hold the closed hearing they will say "Ok gentlemen, those of you with a Q clearance please step into the conference room behind me, the rest of you are sequestered until this briefing is concluded."

(07-27-2023, 05:06 AM)727Sky Wrote: I was impressed with both the witnesses and the selected panel members 

(07-27-2023, 07:34 AM)Bally002 Wrote: I thought it was just a wet blanket.  There was nothing new.  I'm going WTF?  Tell the people instead of saying.  "That's classified. can't answer that question."  The witnesses relayed info that's been in the public forum for years.

Sadly, the witnesses said they would only divulge classified material to a closed congress.

(07-27-2023, 09:11 AM)A51Watcher2 Wrote: President Eisenhower said:

We called the people in from MJ-12, from Area 51 and S-4, but they told us that the government had no jurisdiction over what they were doing…. I want you and your boss to fly out there. I want you to give them a personal message…. I want you to tell them, whoever is in charge, I want you to tell them that they have this coming week to get into Washington and to report to me. And if they don’t, I’m going to get the First Army from Colorado. we are going to go over and take the base over. I don’t care what kind of classified material you got. We are going to rip this thing apart.”

(07-27-2023, 12:11 PM)BIAD Wrote: It's nice to see these well-funded areas of our military have access to the best in photographic
technology money can buy.

Quote:The UFO congressional hearing was ‘insulting’ to US employees, a top Pentagon official says



By NOMAAN MERCHANT and TARA COPP
Updated 9:57 AM GMT+7, July 29, 2023


WASHINGTON (AP) — A top Pentagon official has attacked this week’s widely watched congressional hearing on UFOs, calling the claims “insulting” to employees who are investigating sightings and accusing a key witness of not cooperating with the official U.S. government investigation.
Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick’s letter, published on his personal LinkedIn page and circulated Friday across social media, criticizes much of the testimony from a retired Air Force intelligence officer that energized believers in extraterrestrial life and produced headlines around the world.
Retired Air Force Maj. David Grusch testified Wednesday that the U.S. has concealed what he called a “multi-decade” program to collect and reverse-engineer “UAPs,” or unidentified aerial phenomena, the official government term for UFOs.
Part of what the U.S. has recovered, Grusch testified, were non-human “biologics,” which he said he had not seen but had learned about from “people with direct knowledge of the program.”

A career intelligence officer, Kirkpatrick was named a year ago to lead the Pentagon’s All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office, or AARO, which was intended to centralize investigations into UAPs. The Pentagon and U.S. intelligence agencies have been pushed by Congress in recent years to better investigate reports of devices flying at unusual speeds or trajectories as a national security concern.

Kirkpatrick wrote the letter Thursday and the Defense Department confirmed Friday that he posted it in a personal capacity. Kirkpatrick declined to comment on the letter Friday.
He writes in part, “I cannot let yesterday’s hearing pass without sharing how insulting it was to the officers of the Department of Defense and Intelligence Community who chose to join AARO, many with not unreasonable anxieties about the career risks this would entail.”
“They are truth-seekers, as am I,” Kirkpatrick said. “But you certainly would not get that impression from yesterday’s hearing.”
In a separate statement, Pentagon spokeswoman Sue Gough denied other allegations made by Grusch and other witnesses before a House Oversight subcommittee.
The Pentagon “has no information that any individual has been harmed or killed as a result of providing information” about UFO objects, Gough said. Nor has the Pentagon discovered “any verifiable information to substantiate claims that any programs regarding the possession or reverse-engineering of extraterrestrial materials have existed in the past or exist currently.”
Kirkpatrick wrote, “AARO has yet to find any credible evidence to support the allegations of any reverse engineering program for non-human technology.”
He had briefed reporters in December that the Pentagon was investigating “several hundreds” of new reports following a push to have pilots and others come forward with any sightings.
Kirkpatrick wrote in his letter that allegations of “retaliation, to include physical assault and hints of murder, are extraordinarily serious, which is why law enforcement is a critical member of the AARO team, specifically to address and take swift action should anyone come forward with such claims.”
“Yet, contrary to assertions made in the hearing, the central source of those allegations has refused to speak with AARO,” Kirkpatrick said. He did not explicitly name Grusch, who alleged he faced retaliation and declined to answer when a congressman asked him if anyone had been murdered to hide information about UFOs.
Messages left at a phone number and email address for Grusch were not returned Friday.

(07-29-2023, 04:35 AM)727Sky Wrote: So now the establishment fight starts. I figure they will use the old 1000 cuts of slander on Grusch to sow doubts and destroy his testimony.
https://apnews.com/article/congress-ufos-uaps-pentagon-aliens-631ad4d174ee9559580935ec11afcf3f

Quote:The UFO congressional hearing was ‘insulting’ to US employees, a top Pentagon official says



By NOMAAN MERCHANT and TARA COPP
Updated 9:57 AM GMT+7, July 29, 2023


WASHINGTON (AP) — A top Pentagon official has attacked this week’s widely watched congressional hearing on UFOs, calling the claims “insulting” to employees who are investigating sightings and accusing a key witness of not cooperating with the official U.S. government investigation.
Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick’s letter, published on his personal LinkedIn page and circulated Friday across social media, criticizes much of the testimony from a retired Air Force intelligence officer that energized believers in extraterrestrial life and produced headlines around the world.
Retired Air Force Maj. David Grusch testified Wednesday that the U.S. has concealed what he called a “multi-decade” program to collect and reverse-engineer “UAPs,” or unidentified aerial phenomena, the official government term for UFOs.
Part of what the U.S. has recovered, Grusch testified, were non-human “biologics,” which he said he had not seen but had learned about from “people with direct knowledge of the program.”

A career intelligence officer, Kirkpatrick was named a year ago to lead the Pentagon’s All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office, or AARO, which was intended to centralize investigations into UAPs. The Pentagon and U.S. intelligence agencies have been pushed by Congress in recent years to better investigate reports of devices flying at unusual speeds or trajectories as a national security concern.

Kirkpatrick wrote the letter Thursday and the Defense Department confirmed Friday that he posted it in a personal capacity. Kirkpatrick declined to comment on the letter Friday.
He writes in part, “I cannot let yesterday’s hearing pass without sharing how insulting it was to the officers of the Department of Defense and Intelligence Community who chose to join AARO, many with not unreasonable anxieties about the career risks this would entail.”
“They are truth-seekers, as am I,” Kirkpatrick said. “But you certainly would not get that impression from yesterday’s hearing.”
In a separate statement, Pentagon spokeswoman Sue Gough denied other allegations made by Grusch and other witnesses before a House Oversight subcommittee.
The Pentagon “has no information that any individual has been harmed or killed as a result of providing information” about UFO objects, Gough said. Nor has the Pentagon discovered “any verifiable information to substantiate claims that any programs regarding the possession or reverse-engineering of extraterrestrial materials have existed in the past or exist currently.”
Kirkpatrick wrote, “AARO has yet to find any credible evidence to support the allegations of any reverse engineering program for non-human technology.”
He had briefed reporters in December that the Pentagon was investigating “several hundreds” of new reports following a push to have pilots and others come forward with any sightings.
Kirkpatrick wrote in his letter that allegations of “retaliation, to include physical assault and hints of murder, are extraordinarily serious, which is why law enforcement is a critical member of the AARO team, specifically to address and take swift action should anyone come forward with such claims.”
“Yet, contrary to assertions made in the hearing, the central source of those allegations has refused to speak with AARO,” Kirkpatrick said. He did not explicitly name Grusch, who alleged he faced retaliation and declined to answer when a congressman asked him if anyone had been murdered to hide information about UFOs.
Messages left at a phone number and email address for Grusch were not returned Friday.

Quote:A career intelligence officer, Kirkpatrick was named a year ago to lead the Pentagon’s All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office, or AARO, which was intended to centralize investigations into UAPs.

Quote:In a separate statement, Pentagon spokeswoman Sue Gough denied other allegations made by Grusch and other witnesses before a House Oversight subcommittee.

The Pentagon “has no information that any individual has been harmed or killed as a result of providing information” about UFO objects, Gough said. Nor has the Pentagon discovered “any verifiable information to substantiate claims that any programs regarding the possession or reverse-engineering of extraterrestrial materials have existed in the past or exist currently.”

Quote:National security is a concept that a government, along with its parliament(s), should protect the state and its citizens against all kind of "national" crises through a variety of power projections, such as political power, diplomacy, economic power, military might, and so on.

The concept developed mostly in the United States after World War II. Initially focusing on military might, it now encompasses a broad range of facets, all of which impinge on the non-military or economic security of the nation and the values espoused by the national society. Accordingly, in order to possess national security, a nation needs to possess economic security, energy security, environmental security, etc. Security threats involve not only conventional foes such as other nation-states but also non-state actors such as violent non-state actors, narcotic cartels, multinational corporations and non-governmental organizations; some authorities include natural disasters and events causing severe environmental damage in this category.

Measures taken to ensure national security include:

• using diplomacy to rally allies and isolate threats
  
  
• marshalling economic power to facilitate or compel cooperation
  
  
• maintaining effective armed forces
  
  
• implementing civil defense and emergency preparedness measures (including anti-terrorism legislation)
  
  
• ensuring the resilience and redundancy of critical infrastructure
  
  
• using intelligence services to detect and defeat or avoid threats and espionage, and to protect classified information
  

Quote:Black project is an informal term used to describe a highly classified, top-secret military or defense project that is not publicly acknowledged by government, military personnel or contractors.

United States and black projects

In the United States, the formal term for a black project is an unacknowledged special access program (SAP). Black projects receive their funding from the black budget.
The US depend on private defense contractors to develop and build military equipment. The two most notable examples being Lockheed Martin and Northrop Grumman. The R&D department of Lockheed Martin is commonly referred to as Skunk Works. It is responsible for a number of aircraft designs, highly classified R&D programs, and exotic aircraft platforms.

Two well known sites for testing of black projects are the Nevada Test site and Area 51.

Unintenionally seeing a black project in action

If a black project is witnessed by a civil servant who is not part of the project, they can be informed that what they saw is an unacknowledged special access program (black project) and be asked to sign a Non-disclosure agreement (NDA). This is to prevent the person from talking about it, for example with the media.[1]

Quote:Speculated or unacknowledged

United States

• Aurora
  

Unknown origin

• Black Triangle
  

Quote:Lazar re-iterated his preference that people don’t believe his story.
“Look, I’m not out there giving UFO lectures, producing tapes. This is not a business of mine. I am trying to run a scientific business, and if I’m the UFO guy, it makes it really difficult, it is to my benefit that people don’t believe the story,” Lazar said.

These days, Lazar and his wife operate a scientific supply firm in Michigan. He has received media coverage because of the odd stuff he sells online but not everyone has made the connection to Area 51 and the stampede he started back in 1989, when he told of working at S-4 south of Area 51, where he saw flying saucers so advanced they had to be from somewhere else.

Quote:The Travis Walton UFO incident was an alleged alien abduction of American forestry worker Travis Walton by a UFO on November 5, 1975, while he was working in the Apache–Sitgreaves National Forests near Snowflake, Arizona. Walton was missing for five days and six hours.[1] After days of searching with scent dogs and helicopters, Walton says he reappeared by the side of a road near Heber, Arizona.[2][3] The Walton case received mainstream publicity and remains one of the best-known alien abduction stories, while scientific skeptics consider it a hoax.

Quote:Abduction claims

According to Walton and a number of other members from the logging crew, on November 5, 1975, he was working with a timber stand improvement crew in the Apache-Sitgreaves National Forest near Snowflake, Arizona. While riding in a truck with six of his coworkers, they allegedly encountered a saucer-shaped object hovering over the ground approximately 110 feet (34 m) away, making a high-pitched buzz. Walton says that after he left the truck and approached the object, a beam of light suddenly appeared from the craft and knocked him unconscious. The other six men were supposedly frightened and drove away. Walton says that he awoke in a hospital-like room, being observed by three short, bald creatures. He says that he fought with them until a human wearing a helmet led Walton to another room, where he blacked out as three other humans put a clear plastic mask over his face. Walton has said that he remembers nothing else until he found himself walking along a highway five days later, with the flying saucer departing above him.

Quote:Ramtha's School of Enlightenment (RSE) is an American New Age spiritual sect near the rural town of Yelm, Washington, U.S. The school was established in 1988 by J. Z. Knight, who claims to channel a 35,000-year-old being called Ramtha the Enlightened One. The school's teachings are based on channeling sessions.

Ramtha's School of Enlightenment is considered to be a cult by various people, including her former husband Jeff Knight,] former personal bodyguard Glen Cunningham, former students of the school (such as David McCarthy[5] or Joe Szimhart), and skeptic Michael Shermer.

Quote:What novel writers are actively doing when they write, what novel readers are passively doing when they read, is entertaining a shared sense of pareidolia and apophenia. Samuel Taylor Coleridge called this cognitive phenomenon “the willing suspension of disbelief.” Putting it more plainly, Michael Shermer, founder of the Skeptics Society and author of Why People Believe Weird Things: Pseudoscience, Superstition, and Other Confusions of Our Time (W. H. Freeman, 1997), dubs it patternicity, his pet name for a concept that unifies pareidolia and apophenia. He believes our brains are “belief engines: evolved pattern-recognition machines that connect the dots and create meaning out of the patterns that we think we see in nature,” and all our art is—to a lesser degree—the expression of this nature.

Why We Write: The Unwilling Suspension of Disbelief

Quote:I was recently a guest on The Paracast radio show, whose host, Gene Steinberg, said that 1950s UFO contactee Howard Menger had personally told him that his own ‘contact’ experiences had been part of a deception operation conducted by the US Army. (I’d originally planned to include this statement in Mirage Men, until another UFO researcher who knew Menger, Timothy Green Beckley, told me that he had later retracted it.)

Meanwhile, on the same programme, author and researcher Nick Redfern pointed me to an intriguing episode from contactee Orfeo Angelucci’s second book, Son of the Sun (1959)…

Angelucci – ‘Orpheus of the Angels’ who features in Carl Jung’s classic book Flying Saucers – was an employee at Lockheed aviation beginning in April 1952, working on parts for the F-94C and F-94B Starfire jet aircraft. A month after starting at Lockheed, Angelucci claims to have met Neptune, a handsome humanoid flying saucer pilot who, over the next few months, told him the secrets of life, the universe and everything. Neptune also warned him of the perils of Communism:

Communism, Earth’s present fundamental enemy, masks beneath its banner the spearhead of the united forces of evil (from Angelucci’s Secrets of the Saucers [1955]).

These views were very much at odds with the opinions of the more famous George Adamski, who also met a blonde saucer man in 1952. Adamski harboured unashamed Communist leanings and spoke out regularly against American imperialism, leading to an investigation by the FBI. Following 1950s UFO-sceptic Leon Davidson, in Mirage Men I ask whether Adamski’s later contacts may have been of the Intelligence kind: his besuited, black limo-driving humanoid aliens fed George strange drinks then showed him films projected onto screens inside their ‘spaceships’ while asking about life on Earth and lecturing him about intergalactic morality. But I was unaware that in Son of the Sun Angelucci explicitly describes what sounds today like being drugged by his alien friends.

In late 1954 Angelucci visited Tiny’s Diner in Twentynine Palms, home to a US Marine training base, in California’s Mojave Desert. Here he met Adam, a humanoid alien he had not encountered before: ‘So strikingly handsome… that if beheld but once for only a few seconds in a crowd, an indelible impression of his countenance would be imbedded in the memory.’

While it would be naive to treat the writings of a man who claims to have had multiple contacts with space beings as entirely unenhanced autobiography, I can’t help but wonder whether the alien visitation beliefs of Angelucci and others were being exploited, or even generated, by people working in one or other clandestine branches of the military or intelligence organisations. Perhaps the US Army’s Special Operations Division, which began experimenting with hallucinogens and chemical warfare in the 1940s, or the CIA, whose infamous MK-ULTRA programme, beginning in 1953 (with antecedents like Chatter, Bluebird and Artichoke operating from 1947) explored the use of drugs, hypnosis and radiation as tools for mind control.

So how’s this for a temporary working hypothesis? Adamski and others were claiming alien contacts and espousing anti-American beliefs. Meanwhile Orfeo Angelucci and fellow contactee George Van Tassell, both employed at one of the US’s most advanced aircraft development plants, also claimed contacts with space beings. Angelucci, as it happens, had previously sparked a police hunt after launching balloons containing the aspergillus clavatus mould, a fact sure to have drawn the FBI’s attentions.  Were Angelucci and Van Tassell given some kind of hallucinogen, deployed as a ‘truth drug’ to quiz them about possible Communist or Soviet sympathies and, perhaps to pump them full of extraterrestrial anti-Commie rhetoric for good measure?

Orfeo Angelucci’s acid test? by Mark Pilkington, author of "Mirage Men".

Quote:"I wrote a book, "From Outer Space To You", copyrighted 1959, based on actual experience, which I accidentally stumbled upon in an isolated field to the rear of my property in High Bridge, New Jersey. (I took photographs.) These photographs I sent to a department in the Pentagon. It wasn't long afterwards that I was contacted and asked if I would cooperate in an experiment based on what I had inadvertently seen and project into this experience an expanded futuristic view of "things to come" with their help and information. (I suppose they must have figured the only way to obtain my silence and cooperation was to put me on the "team"...) In other words, the "High Bridge Incident"; which was used as a gauge to indicate people's reaction to alien contact."

he High Bridge Incident: The Story Behind The Story (PDF book)

(07-30-2023, 07:21 PM)EndtheMadnessNow Wrote:

Quote: Crazy connections in the Occult science world