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RE: Rogue-nation attacked. What is going on? - Bally002 - 11-10-2023

(11-08-2023, 01:41 AM)BodhisattvaStyle Wrote: Hey, gang.
I tried to log in about 8pm and it would pull up the site, but when I would try and log in I got the MyBB error prompt again. Same as last time.

My phone even did something really weird during one attempt to log in.

I tried several times, in different ways to access the site. I think it was about 30 mins that i couldn't get in.

Anyone else experience this? Tues 8:00-8:40pm est


Edit:
12:00am est
I was finally able to get on the site again.
R3 was down as well. Everything pretty much looked the same as last time. I'm keeping this log of what's been going on.
Attack #2 in 4 days. Site was down 4 hours this time.

Good work.

Kind regards,

Bally.


RE: Rogue-nation attacked. What is going on? - BodhisattvaStyle - 11-10-2023

(11-10-2023, 01:23 AM)Freija Wrote: So what did happen? Perspiring minds want to know!

I was just wondering if we had an update today at all.

(11-10-2023, 09:14 AM)Bally002 Wrote:
(11-08-2023, 01:41 AM)BodhisattvaStyle Wrote: Hey, gang.
I tried to log in about 8pm and it would pull up the site, but when I would try and log in I got the MyBB error prompt again. Same as last time.

My phone even did something really weird during one attempt to log in.

I tried several times, in different ways to access the site. I think it was about 30 mins that i couldn't get in.

Anyone else experience this? Tues 8:00-8:40pm est


Edit:
12:00am est
I was finally able to get on the site again.
R3 was down as well. Everything pretty much looked the same as last time. I'm keeping this log of what's been going on.
Attack #2 in 4 days. Site was down 4 hours this time.

Good work.

Kind regards,

Bally.

No problamo. Hope it is of assistance.


RE: Rogue-nation attacked. What is going on? - ancientlight - 11-11-2023

(11-06-2023, 04:04 PM)BodhisattvaStyle Wrote: Rogue-nation was just hit with some sort of attack over the weekend. After logging in Saturday I started having problems with my phone. I've had to completely wipe and clean it.
Ats was attacked recently, as we all know.
Facebook was also attacked this weekend. 

Are we under a full scale cyber attack? Is our information safe now, or have we been compromised? Is this our government, or a foreign enemy?

These are some questions that have come to my mind. I'm starting this thread so we can discuss what's been going on with these attacks. 

I, myself, wondered if it was time to unplug for a while. 

Can anyone explain what exactly happened here the last couple of days? Are we safe being on these sites anymore?

What say you?
I hope not , this is my safehaven from the world, really . ATS is not the same anymore , every site has been going downhill except here. I'm sure Ninurta or Biad can answer what happenend, I would like to know too.

(11-06-2023, 04:47 PM)GeauxHomeLittleD Wrote: I just figured it was a DDOS attack, possible not even aimed at RN but at the host site. I mean, all the "too big to fail" banks were FUBAR all weekend (may still be for all I know, I just woke up). We were warned there would be cyber attacks from Iran- I just happen to think they're coming from our own government and they're blaming the "other guys".
Life is starting to feel more and more like having to defend from constant attacks from all sides, it's really getting depressing. 
Constantly having to worry about the next thing that will fail : uncertain food supplies, looming bank crashes, restricted travel, untrust worthy corrupt governments, corrupted medical community and hospitals ,  aims from the government to steal everything you own (property taxes, hoa fees, immiment domain , civil forfeiture , higher more restricting property insurance and on on and on ) , just to name a few. I just want some rest from it all  Sad


RE: Rogue-nation attacked. What is going on? - p358 - 11-11-2023

@Ancient one

Relax, breath deeply.

Desiderata: Original Text

This is the original text from the book where Desiderata was first published.

Go placidly amid the noise and the haste, and remember what peace there may be in silence. As far as possible, without surrender, be on good terms with all persons.

Speak your truth quietly and clearly; and listen to others, even to the dull and the ignorant; they too have their story.
Avoid loud and aggressive persons; they are vexatious to the spirit. If you compare yourself with others, you may become vain or bitter, for always there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself.

Enjoy your achievements as well as your plans. Keep interested in your own career, however humble; it is a real possession in the changing fortunes of time.

Exercise caution in your business affairs, for the world is full of trickery. But let this not blind you to what virtue there is; many persons strive for high ideals, and everywhere life is full of heroism.
Be yourself. Especially do not feign affection. Neither be cynical about love; for in the face of all aridity and disenchantment, it is as perennial as the grass.

Take kindly the counsel of the years, gracefully surrendering the things of youth.
Nurture strength of spirit to shield you in sudden misfortune. But do not distress yourself with dark imaginings. Many fears are born of fatigue and loneliness.

Beyond a wholesome discipline, be gentle with yourself. You are a child of the universe no less than the trees and the stars; you have a right to be here.

And whether or not it is clear to you, no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should.

Therefore be at peace with God, whatever you conceive Him to be. And whatever your labors and aspirations, in the noisy confusion of life, keep peace in your soul. With all its sham, drudgery and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be cheerful. Strive to be happy.

by Max Ehrmann ©1927


RE: Rogue-nation attacked. What is going on? - BodhisattvaStyle - 11-11-2023

(11-11-2023, 02:18 AM)ancientlight Wrote:
(11-06-2023, 04:04 PM)BodhisattvaStyle Wrote: Rogue-nation was just hit with some sort of attack over the weekend. After logging in Saturday I started having problems with my phone. I've had to completely wipe and clean it.
Ats was attacked recently, as we all know.
Facebook was also attacked this weekend. 

Are we under a full scale cyber attack? Is our information safe now, or have we been compromised? Is this our government, or a foreign enemy?

These are some questions that have come to my mind. I'm starting this thread so we can discuss what's been going on with these attacks. 

I, myself, wondered if it was time to unplug for a while. 

Can anyone explain what exactly happened here the last couple of days? Are we safe being on these sites anymore?

What say you?
I hope not , this is my safehaven from the world, really . ATS is not the same anymore , every site has been going downhill except here. I'm sure Ninurta or Biad can answer what happenend, I would like to know too.

(11-06-2023, 04:47 PM)GeauxHomeLittleD Wrote: I just figured it was a DDOS attack, possible not even aimed at RN but at the host site. I mean, all the "too big to fail" banks were FUBAR all weekend (may still be for all I know, I just woke up). We were warned there would be cyber attacks from Iran- I just happen to think they're coming from our own government and they're blaming the "other guys".
Life is starting to feel more and more like having to defend from constant attacks from all sides, it's really getting depressing. 
Constantly having to worry about the next thing that will fail : uncertain food supplies, looming bank crashes, restricted travel, untrust worthy corrupt governments, corrupted medical community and hospitals ,  aims from the government to steal everything you own (property taxes, hoa fees, immiment domain , civil forfeiture , higher more restricting property insurance and on on and on ) , just to name a few. I just want some rest from it all  Sad
Same here. This is my only safe haven. The only place I still feel free to express myself. The only place that wasn't corrupted. When this got hit and was taken away, I wigged a bit at the thought of not having this outlet to share and express some of the thoughts and ideas that run through my mind. I posted this originally because I had full confidence of those in charge that they would be on top of it and this place wouldn't go to hell and a hand basket. I'm thankful they got us up and running again as quickly as they did. 

Cheers to all of them.

As a whole, with all these sites going down like this it makes one wonder.


RE: Rogue-nation attacked. What is going on? - ancientlight - 11-11-2023

(11-09-2023, 05:04 PM)BodhisattvaStyle Wrote:
(11-09-2023, 04:46 PM)DonnerPartyOf404 Wrote: Perhaps this is dumb me being dumb but I find the timing of these outages to be interesting.  

ATS goe down on the same day that Byden accounces that he is giving billions to Urkraine and Israel.
Rogue goes down during the Rep debate.

Guess the alleged powers that be don't want people with more than two brain cells discussing anything.
Great point.
I've done some investigating of my own and came up with a few things I'd like to share, but will have to do it later. I've got to backtrack and find the articles again. Apparently in the UK several (or all of them, i cant rememberthis am) "conspiracy websites" went down the same time frame of all of this with ATS and now RN.

I'll be back later today with everything I found compiled together. 
I also did a little study on DDoS and the SQ error we were getting. 
I'll be interested to hear what Ninurta has to share. Hope he feels better.

(11-09-2023, 05:03 PM)BIAD Wrote:
(11-09-2023, 04:46 PM)DonnerPartyOf404 Wrote: Perhaps this is dumb me being dumb but I find the timing of these outages to be interesting.  

ATS goe down on the same day that Byden accounces that he is giving billions to Urkraine and Israel.
Rogue goes down during the Rep debate.

Guess the alleged powers that be don't want people with more than two brain cells discussing anything.

I too, don't believe in coincidences.
Shocked

Way too many bells going off all in sequence.  Cool

(11-08-2023, 11:00 AM)Gordi Wrote:
(11-08-2023, 01:41 AM)BodhisattvaStyle Wrote: Hey, gang.
I tried to log in about 8pm and it would pull up the site, but when I would try and log in I got the MyBB error prompt again. Same as last time.

My phone even did something really weird during one attempt to log in.

I tried several times, in different ways to access the site. I think it was about 30 mins that i couldn't get in.

Anyone else experience this? Tues 8:00-8:40pm est


Edit:
12:00am est
I was finally able to get on the site again.
R3 was down as well. Everything pretty much looked the same as last time. I'm keeping this log of what's been going on.
Attack #2 in 4 days. Site was down 4 hours this time.

Thanks,
Our server hosts are currently investigating. Hopefully something simple!
G
Thank you for letting us know. 
Que the Easter egg hunt, eh¿
Might have something to do with this new online 'safety' bill in the UK :

ATS forum thread

(11-11-2023, 02:48 AM)p358 Wrote: @Ancient one

Relax, breath deeply.

Desiderata: Original Text

This is the original text from the book where Desiderata was first published.

Go placidly amid the noise and the haste, and remember what peace there may be in silence. As far as possible, without surrender, be on good terms with all persons.

Speak your truth quietly and clearly; and listen to others, even to the dull and the ignorant; they too have their story.
Avoid loud and aggressive persons; they are vexatious to the spirit. If you compare yourself with others, you may become vain or bitter, for always there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself.

Enjoy your achievements as well as your plans. Keep interested in your own career, however humble; it is a real possession in the changing fortunes of time.

Exercise caution in your business affairs, for the world is full of trickery. But let this not blind you to what virtue there is; many persons strive for high ideals, and everywhere life is full of heroism.
Be yourself. Especially do not feign affection. Neither be cynical about love; for in the face of all aridity and disenchantment, it is as perennial as the grass.

Take kindly the counsel of the years, gracefully surrendering the things of youth.
Nurture strength of spirit to shield you in sudden misfortune. But do not distress yourself with dark imaginings. Many fears are born of fatigue and loneliness.

Beyond a wholesome discipline, be gentle with yourself. You are a child of the universe no less than the trees and the stars; you have a right to be here.

And whether or not it is clear to you, no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should.

Therefore be at peace with God, whatever you conceive Him to be. And whatever your labors and aspirations, in the noisy confusion of life, keep peace in your soul. With all its sham, drudgery and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be cheerful. Strive to be happy.

by Max Ehrmann ©1927
Thank you for that  In love


RE: Rogue-nation attacked. What is going on? - BIAD - 11-11-2023

(11-11-2023, 02:18 AM)ancientlight Wrote: I hope not , this is my safehaven from the world, really . ATS is not the same anymore , every site has been going downhill except here. I'm sure Ninurta or Biad can answer what happened, I would like to know too.

This is only my personal view of the whole situation.

There are indications now that some miscalculations were assumed on how much memory we
are using here at Rogue Nation, a factor that would have a bearing on the site functioning and
accessing. But... if this was true, we're here now, so why is that?!!
Huh
Secondly -and remember this is only my pint-sized view on the matter, the episode of the other
mentioned website struggling with its recent woes and then this site being disrupted is too-much
of a coincidence for me to personally ignore.

*Dons foil hat* Whether it was a group of wealthy cigar-smoking powerful people discussing the
failure of the red pill and perceiving Rogue Nation as a threat to their control or someone having
the skillset to break into the back-end of our website for unknown purposes, I'm not clever enough
to evaluate.
But the chances of negative-serendipity occurring in the manner it did, doesn't sit well with me.
Shy

When brighter minds than my own figure it all out, I'm certain RN members will be brought up
to speed. Meanwhile, we're here and that's what counts.
thumbsup2


RE: Rogue-nation attacked. What is going on? - Grace - 11-11-2023

(11-11-2023, 02:18 AM)ancientlight Wrote: Life is starting to feel more and more like having to defend from constant attacks from all sides, it's really getting depressing. 
Constantly having to worry about the next thing that will fail : uncertain food supplies, looming bank crashes, restricted travel, untrust worthy corrupt governments, corrupted medical community and hospitals ,  aims from the government to steal everything you own (property taxes, hoa fees, immiment domain , civil forfeiture , higher more restricting property insurance and on on and on ) , just to name a few. I just want some rest from it all  Sad

I understand that on such a deep level you'll just never know...

I want to cry just trying to keep decent meals on the table. Forget gas prices..

I spent 3.32 cents for a small package of fatback and 1.79 for 1 pound of hog jowl bacon - and that was the cheapest they had - you wanted seasoning meat? Your paying fancy hamburger prices - for scrap pork meat that's heavy on fat .

How is anyone supposed to afford even soup now! Pretend like we're in the Great Depression?

We used to be able to throw in a fancy soup a time or two a week to save money at the grocery store. Now there's nothing we can save much money with, all meals are pretty high.

And your right, we are attacked on all sides right now and finding something you can trust and count on is so necessary... And such a peace in a hostile world.

My love friend...


RE: Rogue-nation attacked. What is going on? - Grace - 11-11-2023

(11-11-2023, 09:14 AM)BIAD Wrote: This is only my personal view of the whole situation.

There are indications now that some miscalculations were assumed on how much memory we
are using here at Rogue Nation, a factor that would have a bearing on the site functioning and
accessing. But... if this was true, we're here now, so why is that?!!
Huh
Secondly -and remember this is only my pint-sized view on the matter, the episode of the other
mentioned website struggling with its recent woes and then this site being disrupted is too-much
of a coincidence for me to personally ignore.

*Dons foil hat* Whether it was a group of wealthy cigar-smoking powerful people discussing the
failure of the red pill and perceiving Rogue Nation as a threat to their control or someone having
the skillset to break into the back-end of our website for unknown purposes, I'm not clever enough
to evaluate.
But the chances of negative-serendipity occurring in the manner it did, doesn't sit well with me.
Shy

When brighter minds than my own figure it all out, I'm certain RN members will be brought up
to speed. Meanwhile, we're here and that's what counts.
thumbsup2


I agree with you it's easy to conspiracy theory out. I still remember when we and ATS, if I'm recalling correctly, both went down (both having different causes) the day Trump was indicted. 

Hubby doesn't think there's any connection simply because we aren't going down for the same causes... He thinks it is just coincidence. 

But who knows really? 

On the one hand it seems pretty darn far fetched that the government - or anyone else for that matter - would care what we're talking about in our cozy little corner of the internet such that they would seek to silence us at key moments, but on the other hand, it's a pretty crazy world these days and our government is acting in ways I would never have imagined.


RE: Rogue-nation attacked. What is going on? - NightskyeB4Dawn - 11-11-2023

(11-11-2023, 01:36 PM)Grace Wrote: I agree with you it's easy to conspiracy theory out. I still remember when we and ATS, if I'm recalling correctly, both went down (both having different causes) the day Trump was indicted. 

Hubby doesn't think there's any connection simply because we aren't going down for the same causes... He thinks it is just coincidence. 

But who knows really? 

On the one hand it seems pretty darn far fetched that the government - or anyone else for that matter - would care what we're talking about in our cozy little corner of the internet such that they would seek to silence us at key moments, but on the other hand, it's a pretty crazy world these days and our government is acting in ways I would never have imagined.

I used to think that no one was interested in what us poor insignificants talked about on the internet. But way back when My Space was all the rage and forums were a different venue, I pissed someone off. Whomever it was, they had some reach.

They fried my computer causing me to buy another. The IT group at Best Buy, told me that it was probably just a bad outlet. They gave me a surge protector.

Two days later I was back with a fried computer. Best Buy was puzzled. The kept it to look at it and gave me a new computer. I brought it back the next day. Fried. 

Best Buy could not find out what was going on. So I went to the library to use their computers. I felt so guilty when less than 30 minutes on their system, the whole thing went down. It took them 3 days to get the system back up.

I stayed off of the forums after that for several years. 

Coincidence? Maybe. But I believe if they want to shut you up, they have a few ways to do just that.


RE: Rogue-nation attacked. What is going on? - ancientlight - 11-11-2023

(11-11-2023, 03:29 PM)NightskyeB4Dawn Wrote:
(11-11-2023, 01:36 PM)Grace Wrote: I agree with you it's easy to conspiracy theory out. I still remember when we and ATS, if I'm recalling correctly, both went down (both having different causes) the day Trump was indicted. 

Hubby doesn't think there's any connection simply because we aren't going down for the same causes... He thinks it is just coincidence. 

But who knows really? 

On the one hand it seems pretty darn far fetched that the government - or anyone else for that matter - would care what we're talking about in our cozy little corner of the internet such that they would seek to silence us at key moments, but on the other hand, it's a pretty crazy world these days and our government is acting in ways I would never have imagined.

I used to think that no one was interested in what us poor insignificants talked about on the internet. But way back when My Space was all the rage and forums were a different venue, I pissed someone off. Whomever it was, they had some reach.

They fried my computer causing me to buy another. The IT group at Best Buy, told me that it was probably just a bad outlet. They gave me a surge protector.

Two days later I was back with a fried computer. Best Buy was puzzled. The kept it to look at it and gave me a new computer. I brought it back the next day. Fried. 

Best Buy could not find out what was going on. So I went to the library to use their computers. I felt so guilty when less than 30 minutes on their system, the whole thing went down. It took them 3 days to get the system back up.

I stayed off of the forums after that for several years. 

Coincidence? Maybe. But I believe if they want to shut you up, they have a few ways to do just that.

That's no coincidence, that's criminally insane and terrifying. What else would they be able to do so easily? Surely not murder a few nuisances no way , not likely //sarcasm. There's more evil in this world than I want to know , they will stop at nothing as they have no coinciousness , just zero empathy, they are not even human in my eyes.


RE: Rogue-nation attacked. What is going on? - BIAD - 11-11-2023

(11-11-2023, 03:29 PM)NightskyeB4Dawn Wrote: ...I stayed off of the forums after that for several years. 
Coincidence? Maybe. But I believe if they want to shut you up, they have a few ways to do just that.

There was a reason DARPA were involved with the birth of the internet.
Shocked


RE: Rogue-nation attacked. What is going on? - BodhisattvaStyle - 12-04-2023

Sunday around 2:30am.est. The site was unreachable again. It came back up around 9ish Sunday night.

Was this the same thing again?


RE: Rogue-nation attacked. What is going on? - Ninurta - 12-04-2023

(12-04-2023, 02:17 AM)BodhisattvaStyle Wrote: Sunday around 2:30am.est. The site was unreachable again. It came back up around 9ish Sunday night.

Was this the same thing again?

Different thing. This time, the web host was doing a massive host-wide upgrade which was concentrated on the data center where our server physically lives. Ir was supposed to take 6 hours or so, but took the lion's share of an entire day instead. I reckon they must have encountered some kind of problems with the upgrade. I couldn't even log in to the web host account to lodge a complaint or discover what they were saying.

Last time it was a disk space issue. That got mitigated in a couple of ways, but has not yet been solved. The web host cleared some stuff out and freed up a little space, and I went in to the back end and set the backup frequency lower, but there are still a bunch of backups just sitting there in a folder in the root directory that I can't get into to zap and free up THAT space... and those backups are what is clogging up most of the disk space. They're really unnecessary, as the web host regularly creates their own backups off-disk.

I'm a month overdue for doing my annual full-site backup to local, because there is not enough space on the disk to house the full-site backup until I can get it downloaded to local and deleted from the site server.

Damn 'puters! Weren't they supposed to make life easier?

Here is the explanation BIAD found in what was the wee hours of the night for me, but probably coffee time on a Sunday morning for him:

Quote:Scheduled - Maintenance Window:
From 00:01 CST on December 3rd

Duration:
Approximately 6 hours

Nature of Maintenance:
We are implementing essential changes to our infrastructure to enhance the quality
and reliability of our services. This includes a significant upgrade to our colocation
facility in the XXXXXXXXX location.


.


RE: Rogue-nation attacked. What is going on? - BodhisattvaStyle - 12-04-2023

(12-04-2023, 02:48 AM)Ninurta Wrote:
(12-04-2023, 02:17 AM)BodhisattvaStyle Wrote: Sunday around 2:30am.est. The site was unreachable again. It came back up around 9ish Sunday night.

Was this the same thing again?

Different thing. This time, the web host was doing a massive host-wide upgrade which was concentrated on the data center where our server physically lives. Ir was supposed to take 6 hours or so, but took the lion's share of an entire day instead. I reckon they must have encountered some kind of problems with the upgrade. I couldn't even log in to the web host account to lodge a complaint or discover what they were saying.

Last time it was a disk space issue. That got mitigated in a couple of ways, but has not yet been solved. The web host cleared some stuff out and freed up a little space, and I went in to the back end and set the backup frequency lower, but there are still a bunch of backups just sitting there in a folder in the root directory that I can't get into to zap and free up THAT space... and those backups are what is clogging up most of the disk space. They're really unnecessary, as the web host regularly creates their own backups off-disk.

I'm a month overdue for doing my annual full-site backup to local, because there is not enough space on the disk to house the full-site backup until I can get it downloaded to local and deleted from the site server.

Damn 'puters! Weren't they supposed to make life easier?

Here is the explanation BIAD found in what was the wee hours of the night for me, but probably coffee time on a Sunday morning for him:

Quote:Scheduled - Maintenance Window:
From 00:01 CST on December 3rd

Duration:
Approximately 6 hours

Nature of Maintenance:
We are implementing essential changes to our infrastructure to enhance the quality
and reliability of our services. This includes a significant upgrade to our colocation
facility in the XXXXXXXXX location.


.

Awesome thank you. I know you had answered in the shoutbox with all this, but I thought it a good idea to also keep track of it here in this thread as well.

I do have one question.

Since it was an "upgrade" did that change any of our terms and conditions?


RE: Rogue-nation attacked. What is going on? - Ninurta - 12-04-2023

(12-04-2023, 03:20 AM)BodhisattvaStyle Wrote: Awesome thank you. I know you had answered in the shoutbox with all this, but I thought it a good idea to also keep track of it here in this thread as well.

I do have one question.

Since it was an "upgrade" did that change any of our terms and conditions?

No. Since it was a modification of their existing infrastructure, it doesn't change any contractual terms already in play.

.


RE: Rogue-nation attacked. What is going on? - BodhisattvaStyle - 12-04-2023

(12-04-2023, 03:52 AM)Ninurta Wrote:
(12-04-2023, 03:20 AM)BodhisattvaStyle Wrote: Awesome thank you. I know you had answered in the shoutbox with all this, but I thought it a good idea to also keep track of it here in this thread as well.

I do have one question.

Since it was an "upgrade" did that change any of our terms and conditions?

No. Since it was a modification of their existing infrastructure, it doesn't change any contractual terms already in play.

.

Cool beans.

Cheers


RE: Rogue-nation attacked. What is going on? - BodhisattvaStyle - 12-04-2023

https://www.cuttingedge.org/news_updates/newsupdatemain.html
Cuttingedge.org is a news site I look at daily. Apparently their site went down during the same time frame as we did here at rogue-nation.com. They said the same thing as far as it taking a lot longer than expected.
But also gave a slightly different answer.
This is what they said:

Why was Cutting Edge down all day? This is a special message just to let our readers and supporters know that the company who hosts our web server was moved to a new facility early Sunday morning and the servers were supposed to be back up by Sunday 7AM but technical difficulties still have us down now at 8 pm Sunday night. This was not a hack or take down by the government but is a reminder that that could happen some day. We want to assure you that this is a technical issue and engineers at the hosting company are working to get hundreds of web servers back up and running. All we can do is pray and wait so please join us in prayers for wisdom for those engineers to get everything working again. Thank you for you prayer support.
End quote


I was curious if they used the same web server as we do, but was unable to find that answer.

I'm good with noticing patterns, so I'm keeping track of all of this here, so if something nefarious pops up later we'll have a guide here as to the events.

Sorry, but once a rogue always a rogue. I'm not one to just trust authority.  Cool

Disclaimer: I'm not implying our mods or prez is lying or deceiving in any way. I'm wondering if you all have been lied to...


RE: Rogue-nation attacked. What is going on? - xuenchen - 12-05-2023

@BodhisattvaStyle

Always beware of coincidences that seem too "coincidental" especially when official explanations are also "coincidental" and a we bit to "easy" and "convenient" 

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RE: Rogue-nation attacked. What is going on? - BodhisattvaStyle - 12-05-2023

(12-05-2023, 12:10 AM)xuenchen Wrote: @BodhisattvaStyle

Always beware of coincidences that seem too "coincidental" especially when official explanations are also "coincidental" and a we bit to "easy" and "convenient" 

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My thoughts exactly. 

Cheers, mate.